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Julie Smith
I think we worked out who the moron is... get lost troll (and go and learn
what a troll is before you call someone one).
what a troll is before you call someone one).
Mike Hall MVP said:The same was said about XP, to the point where some stayed with Win 2000..
now, with the release of Vista, some choose to forget earlier events
because it weakens their argument against Vista..
xfile said:I have no conclusion on performance - faster or slowness, as it indeed
varies on too many factors. Even on compatibility issue, I have no
verdict because limited samples available to myself, as compared to the
unknown numbers of hardware and software in the world.
[...]dozens of things that are annoyingly different without being a
functional improvement, [...]
That actually is one of few major problems that I have with Vista.
Tiberius said:http://www.macobserver.com/article/2007/05/14.9.shtml
A company that took its time, did everything right, and migrated to
Vista recounted the full horror of the experience. According to their
account, company employees found Vista to be slow, Explorer to be
problematic, and other quirks that left them less than satisfied.
The Transit company took the optimal path. They waited for the typical
new release bugs to be worked out. They purchased a new PC from a major
vendor, Lenovo, that had Vista pre-installed in order to avoid upgrade
nightmares. Finally, they kept the installed software on the computer at
a minimum to avoid complications.
The verdict? "...we've found nothing that works better than in Windows
XP, dozens of things that are annoyingly different without being a
functional improvement, and several things that work at best
intermittently and at worst not at all. On the whole, we wish we'd never
moved," Angus Kidman said in a Blog report carried by ITWire.
The first observation was that Vista was "hideously slow" even on a new
Vista certified PC with twice the RAM and a faster processor. Boot times
were longer than the predecesor. The connection to the Linksys router
failed, and heroic support from Microsoft failed to resolve the problem.
"...if you can't get basic IP working in 2007, something pretty
fundamental is going wrong," Mr. Kidman wrote.
Another irritating problem related to using a local file as an HTML home
page. Mr. Kidman reported that this was hopeless effort with Vista,
"...since Internet Explorer insists on launching any page in a new
window because of a security restriction. As such, Vista has managed to
convince us to ditch Internet Explorer after nine years and switch to
Firefox, which doesn't indulge in such ridiculous behaviour, and seems
to run faster as well."
Finally, out of curiosity, Microsoft's Vista Upgrade Advisor was run. It
reported that the computer didn't have enough drive space, even though
Vista was preinstalled. And then it reported that the display and sound
card "weren't certified for Vista. The third thing it told us was that
none of the Lenovo utilities on the machine were Vista-ready. So much
for certification."
The bottom line was Microsoft should have worked harder to make Vista,
"a dog," a bigger advance over Windows XP/SP2.
--
Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
Only an idiot like you would bother to post an article from the
"macobserver", (an unbiased opinion right?) about one laptop computer
that came with Vista (we don't know which version of Vista) that one
company bought and was not impressed with its performance.
Of course, that's MS's fault right? Or did you ever in your little pea
brain stop to think it might be the vendors fault for not including
updated hardware?
Moron!
Frank
Julie said:I think we worked out who the moron is... get lost troll (and go and learn
what a troll is before you call someone one).
Adam said:Frank... check your mailbox. Your "I'm a village idiot" certificate
should be arriving any day.
Sweetheart, you give us girls a bad name when you can't argue a point.Julie said:I'm sorry, I didn't realise that your machines were the ONLY ones that
mattered... get lost troll.
All your statement suggests is that Microsoft has been selling crapware forMike said:The same was said about XP, to the point where some stayed with Win 2000..
now, with the release of Vista, some choose to forget earlier events
because it weakens their argument against Vista..
It almost sounds like you're describing Dr. Frank and his sidekick,Tiberius said:I love dogs too....
This one seems to be some freak genetic experiment to merge the dogs dna
with that of a snail a hippo
and implant a retarded jellyfish brain.
xfile said:Yes, history is an indication but not always, as circumstances may not
exactly the same.
For one, I never had or said the same for XP or earlier versions and none
of around me had the same feelings.
I did do some researches (as my memory isn't that good) when I read a few
times about "some people said the same thing about previous Windows".
Well, it's true that some articles published at that time did reflect to
the same tone, but not all of them. Many did compliment XP and 2K but now
criticizing Vista.
So true, some naysayers may have been doing this all along, but not all
current naysayers are falling into the same group.
It's up to the company whether or not to open its mind.
This is the first MS OS that I have not wanted in my (our) systems since
Windows 1.x. Honestly speaking, it was not an easy and pleasant decision.
Mike Hall MVP said:The same was said about XP, to the point where some stayed with Win
2000.. now, with the release of Vista, some choose to forget earlier
events because it weakens their argument against Vista..
xfile said:I have no conclusion on performance - faster or slowness, as it indeed
varies on too many factors. Even on compatibility issue, I have no
verdict because limited samples available to myself, as compared to the
unknown numbers of hardware and software in the world.
On the other hand, I do think an objective person with reasonable
knowledge of computer usability will tend to agree:
[...]dozens of things that are annoyingly different without being a
functional improvement, [...]
That actually is one of few major problems that I have with Vista.
http://www.macobserver.com/article/2007/05/14.9.shtml
A company that took its time, did everything right, and migrated to
Vista recounted the full horror of the experience. According to their
account, company employees found Vista to be slow, Explorer to be
problematic, and other quirks that left them less than satisfied.
The Transit company took the optimal path. They waited for the typical
new release bugs to be worked out. They purchased a new PC from a major
vendor, Lenovo, that had Vista pre-installed in order to avoid upgrade
nightmares. Finally, they kept the installed software on the computer
at a minimum to avoid complications.
The verdict? "...we've found nothing that works better than in Windows
XP, dozens of things that are annoyingly different without being a
functional improvement, and several things that work at best
intermittently and at worst not at all. On the whole, we wish we'd
never moved," Angus Kidman said in a Blog report carried by ITWire.
The first observation was that Vista was "hideously slow" even on a new
Vista certified PC with twice the RAM and a faster processor. Boot
times were longer than the predecesor. The connection to the Linksys
router failed, and heroic support from Microsoft failed to resolve the
problem. "...if you can't get basic IP working in 2007, something
pretty fundamental is going wrong," Mr. Kidman wrote.
Another irritating problem related to using a local file as an HTML
home page. Mr. Kidman reported that this was hopeless effort with
Vista, "...since Internet Explorer insists on launching any page in a
new window because of a security restriction. As such, Vista has
managed to convince us to ditch Internet Explorer after nine years and
switch to Firefox, which doesn't indulge in such ridiculous behaviour,
and seems to run faster as well."
Finally, out of curiosity, Microsoft's Vista Upgrade Advisor was run.
It reported that the computer didn't have enough drive space, even
though Vista was preinstalled. And then it reported that the display
and sound card "weren't certified for Vista. The third thing it told us
was that none of the Lenovo utilities on the machine were Vista-ready.
So much for certification."
The bottom line was Microsoft should have worked harder to make Vista,
"a dog," a bigger advance over Windows XP/SP2.
--
Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
--------------------------Tiberius said:I love dogs too....
Julie Smith said:I didn't realise that this was a newsgroup where we sit here and argue... I
guess i'm wrong. I thought this is where we come to ask questions for
support.
Trolls are those that come on here and want to start arguing (ie. idiots
like tiberius).
I don't argue the point... because he's already biased and nothing anyone
says will convince him otherwise...
I wonder where alias is... he's usually marketing ubuntu by now...
I wonder where alias is... he's usually marketing ubuntu by now...
Frank said:Julie Smith wrote:
Uuhhhh...I think he's trying to get a date with Doris the-cross-dresser
(another urbuttoo pusher) but I think he's in competition with Tiberius.
We could see a menage...cover the children's eyes!
Frank
Frank said:--------------------------
Hey, don't look now but I think Doris the-cross-dresser is trying to get
your attention.
You two could make a lovely couple.
He's and bald headed fat old man who like to dress like Doris Day.
Whereas you are Greek malakas who likes to...well...we won't go there
(but he will).
Who knows...could be a match made in....
Good luck to the both of you.
Frank
Mike Hall MVP said:Most home users had Win 98, as did a few small business'.. Win 2000 was
too expensive, and there was too much enforced security for the average
user..
The Win 2000 SP2 update was a disaster, and almost destroyed WIn 2000
credibility, but it recovered in time, and made it as far as SP4..
XP, while not much different to Win 2000, defaulting to less security but
the option to lock it down as with Win 2000, was hated by the Win 98
users.. Nothing was the same, and the Fischer Price front end had many
critics.. but all of the people that I turned from Win 98 to XP have never
looked back, and I have had far less return calls from the clients.. some
of them had to upgrade hardware, and others bought new machines, but all
had a way more peaceful Windows experience than ever before..
Even so, a year ago, there were still posts in the XP newsgroups that
stated Win 98 as being the best OS ever, that XP was bloated crap.. so
what has changed in XP since middle of last year? Nothing at all, except
that a new target has emerged for the naysayers and trolls..
xfile said:Yes, history is an indication but not always, as circumstances may not
exactly the same.
For one, I never had or said the same for XP or earlier versions and none
of around me had the same feelings.
I did do some researches (as my memory isn't that good) when I read a few
times about "some people said the same thing about previous Windows".
Well, it's true that some articles published at that time did reflect to
the same tone, but not all of them. Many did compliment XP and 2K but
now criticizing Vista.
So true, some naysayers may have been doing this all along, but not all
current naysayers are falling into the same group.
It's up to the company whether or not to open its mind.
This is the first MS OS that I have not wanted in my (our) systems since
Windows 1.x. Honestly speaking, it was not an easy and pleasant
decision.
Mike Hall MVP said:The same was said about XP, to the point where some stayed with Win
2000.. now, with the release of Vista, some choose to forget earlier
events because it weakens their argument against Vista..
I have no conclusion on performance - faster or slowness, as it indeed
varies on too many factors. Even on compatibility issue, I have no
verdict because limited samples available to myself, as compared to the
unknown numbers of hardware and software in the world.
On the other hand, I do think an objective person with reasonable
knowledge of computer usability will tend to agree:
[...]dozens of things that are annoyingly different without being a
functional improvement, [...]
That actually is one of few major problems that I have with Vista.
http://www.macobserver.com/article/2007/05/14.9.shtml
A company that took its time, did everything right, and migrated to
Vista recounted the full horror of the experience. According to their
account, company employees found Vista to be slow, Explorer to be
problematic, and other quirks that left them less than satisfied.
The Transit company took the optimal path. They waited for the typical
new release bugs to be worked out. They purchased a new PC from a
major vendor, Lenovo, that had Vista pre-installed in order to avoid
upgrade nightmares. Finally, they kept the installed software on the
computer at a minimum to avoid complications.
The verdict? "...we've found nothing that works better than in Windows
XP, dozens of things that are annoyingly different without being a
functional improvement, and several things that work at best
intermittently and at worst not at all. On the whole, we wish we'd
never moved," Angus Kidman said in a Blog report carried by ITWire.
The first observation was that Vista was "hideously slow" even on a
new Vista certified PC with twice the RAM and a faster processor. Boot
times were longer than the predecesor. The connection to the Linksys
router failed, and heroic support from Microsoft failed to resolve the
problem. "...if you can't get basic IP working in 2007, something
pretty fundamental is going wrong," Mr. Kidman wrote.
Another irritating problem related to using a local file as an HTML
home page. Mr. Kidman reported that this was hopeless effort with
Vista, "...since Internet Explorer insists on launching any page in a
new window because of a security restriction. As such, Vista has
managed to convince us to ditch Internet Explorer after nine years and
switch to Firefox, which doesn't indulge in such ridiculous behaviour,
and seems to run faster as well."
Finally, out of curiosity, Microsoft's Vista Upgrade Advisor was run.
It reported that the computer didn't have enough drive space, even
though Vista was preinstalled. And then it reported that the display
and sound card "weren't certified for Vista. The third thing it told
us was that none of the Lenovo utilities on the machine were
Vista-ready. So much for certification."
The bottom line was Microsoft should have worked harder to make Vista,
"a dog," a bigger advance over Windows XP/SP2.
--
Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
--
Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
Sorry Doris, linux loser.Doris said:Frank wrote:
Do you always look up ladies' skirts Dr. Frank? Not only are you stupid,
you're also a pervert. <snort>
Love and Kisses,
Doris
Frank said:Sorry Doris, linux loser.
But I'm not a cross-dressing bald headed fat fart of an old gizzer like
you. But hey, that's your problem, not mine.
(snort)
Frank
Doris said:ROFL!!! Very good Madame Allbright.
Love and Kisses,
Doris
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