ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage

[eds]

@ fixuser - Been reading some reviews about the NSLU2 which are not
favorable. What can you tell me about the size of the drives it ca
handle? Is there a size limit as one post I read indicated (25
gig)? My Argosy has 300 gig max

Also read that it formats new drives for a Linux system and cannot b
formatted back to any other. How were you able to get the drive t
format NTFS

Do the USB attached hard drives that you can add have to be formatte
as well

@odie ferrous - are you still here? You don't own the Argosy NAS an
from previous posts you obviously don't like the unit, why don't yo
go post your comments elsewhere and leave this forum alone

 

[Odie Ferrous]

@ fixuser - Been reading some reviews about the NSLU2 which are not
favorable. What can you tell me about the size of the drives it can
handle? Is there a size limit as one post I read indicated (250
gig)? My Argosy has 300 gig max.

Also read that it formats new drives for a Linux system and cannot be
formatted back to any other. How were you able to get the drive to
format NTFS?

Do the USB attached hard drives that you can add have to be formatted
as well?

@odie ferrous - are you still here?

No. I'm dead. Just leave the flowers and get out.


Odie

 

[fixuser]

eds
I've only connected 120, 160 and 250 GB disks to it ... so I can'
speak to the 300 GB specifically. You are correct that posts i
forums seem a bit mixed for capacities 250 GB and above. Some of i
depends upon the enclosure you put the drive in, and the capacity o
drive it supports. You can find all kinds of postings about certai
enclosures having difficulties supporting larger drives. This make
some sense as the enclosure is the device that actually connects t
the drive and converts the data to/from its IDE port to USB. If th
enclosure doesn't work well with the larger drive, the NSLU2 won'
either

In regards to formating the hard drive. Even if you allow the NSLU
to format a drive (such that it partitions and formats it with a
EXT3 filesystem), that is not a permanent change to the hard drive.
If you later disconnect the drive from the NSLU2 and want to use i
on a PC, you can reformat the drive with a different filesystem (NTF
or FAT32 for example). However, just remember, this will delete an
data stored on the drive

After the NSLU2 has partitioned and formated a drive, when you the
connect the drive to a PC, you first need to delete the partition
the NSLU2 built, then make new partitions on the drive, then forma
those partitions as you like. You can do this in Windows using th
Disk Management tool that can be found under
Settings -> Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Compute
Managemen
Click on Disk Management in the left hand pane

This will show you all the drives connected to the PC, and partition
on those drives. From there, you can do as you wish with th
drives

A 'new' drive (assuming it does not have any partitions defined
connected to the NSLU2 will be partitioned into 3 partition an
formated by the NSLU2 using the EXT3 filesystem

In order to use an NTFS or FAT32 disk with the NSLU2, hte drive mus
first be partitioned and formated on a PC. Then, when you connect i
to the NSLU2, it will recognize those partitions and file systems

When the NSLU2 sees disks formated FAT32 or NTFS, it will allow you t
format it to EXT3 if you wish

The NSLU2 has not automatically formated any drives I connected to it
You always have to tell it to format the drive. Just thought I'
make this clarification

Technically, others have posted results using different file system
on one disk with the NSLU2. I haven't tried that myself

For general NSLU2 discussions and questions, you may find th
following forum helpful (if you haven't found it already)
Linksy
Firmware Foru

 

[eds]

fixuserwrote:
eds,

I've only connected 120, 160 and 250 GB disks to it ... so I can't

speak to the 300 GB specifically. You are correct that posts in
forums seem a bit mixed for capacities 250 GB and above. Some of it
depends upon the enclosure you put the drive in, and the capacity of
drive it supports. You can find all kinds of postings about certain
enclosures having difficulties supporting larger drives. This makes
some sense as the enclosure is the device that actually connects to
the drive and converts the data to/from its IDE port to USB. If the
enclosure doesn't work well with the larger drive, the NSLU2 won't
either.

In regards to formating the hard drive. Even if you allow the NSLU2

to format a drive (such that it partitions and formats it with an EXT3
filesystem), that is not a permanent change to the hard drive. If you
later disconnect the drive from the NSLU2 and want to use it on a PC,
you can reformat the drive with a different filesystem (NTFS or FAT32
for example). However, just remember, this will delete any data
stored on the drive.

After the NSLU2 has partitioned and formated a drive, when you then

connect the drive to a PC, you first need to delete the partitions
the NSLU2 built, then make new partitions on the drive, then format
those partitions as you like. You can do this in Windows using the
Disk Management tool that can be found under:

Settings -> Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Computer Management
Click on Disk Management in the left hand pane.

This will show you all the drives connected to the PC, and

partitions on those drives. From there, you can do as you wish with
the drives.

A 'new' drive (assuming it does not have any partitions defined)

connected to the NSLU2 will be partitioned into 3 partition and
formated by the NSLU2 using the EXT3 filesystem.

In order to use an NTFS or FAT32 disk with the NSLU2, hte drive must

first be partitioned and formated on a PC. Then, when you connect it
to the NSLU2, it will recognize those partitions and file systems.

When the NSLU2 sees disks formated FAT32 or NTFS, it will allow you

to format it to EXT3 if you wish.

The NSLU2 has not automatically formated any drives I connected to

it. You always have to tell it to format the drive. Just thought
I'd make this clarification.

Technically, others have posted results using different file systems

on one disk with the NSLU2. I haven't tried that myself.

For general NSLU2 discussions and questions, you may find the

following forum helpful (if you haven't found it already):Linksys
Firmware ForumLinksys Firmware Forum[/quote:84703d128c]

Thanks for the link, I'll check it out.

 

[Ludwig Krijgshaftig]

In response to some of the inquiries regarding my notes about the
NSLU2:

I also like the built-in backup feature of the NSLU2, which I have
enabled so the files stored on the first are regualarly backed up to
the second ... without any PC on the network running.

I have also just purchased a NSLU2 and have set it up last weekend.
Everything is working fine now, but I have been struggling quite a bit
with the built-in backup feature (which for me was one of the main
reasons to select this device). I was not able to find any comments on
problems with this feature on the net, so supposed I was doing something
wrong. My problems were twofold (well three, actually):

1. My backup jobs were not able to obtain access to the shared folders
on my Windows XP Pro boxes. In the end I came to the conclusion that
when you change any item in the definition of the backup job, the fields
(userID and password) that refer to access to the shared folders on the
"other" device are probably cleared in the web interface, even though
they appear to be filled in the web interface.
Solution: every time I change a single item in the backup job definition
(e.g. backup type), I also reenter the userID and password that are
required for access to the shared folder. This appears to work until now.

2. It is apparently not possible to define in the backup job a subfolder
under the NSLU2 share, when defining a backup from "other" device to
the NSLU2. Not even when starting the path of the subfolder with the
apparently mandatory forward slash (see info on Q&A at Linksys support
site). Not even when delimiting the path to one subfolder only.
Subfolder is correctly defined within the NSLU2 share, but it still will
not let me define the job like that. When I try to save it only fives an
error stating "invalid job path". Solution for now is to backup to the
"root" of the share only, but I do no like this very much (now I have
defined multiple shares that should actually be defined as multiple
folders under one share). It is now not clear to me why I can define a
subfolder under the NSLU2 share, perhaps this only works with a backup
job from the NSLU2 to the "other" device (further testing required).

3. Not related to backup. There is an option for scheduled shutdown, and
directly under it an option for scheduled restart. Unfortunately only
the shutdown works, but not the restart. I have come to understand that
"restart" should actually read "reboot" which you can schedule and
activate only from a running NSLU2. I.e. you can schedule the device to
reboot at a certain moment, but not to wake-up at a certain moment.
Would have been nice, but possibly useless anyway since it can not also
control the attached USB diskdrives. I do not want to leave them on all
the time, also shutdown my Windows boxes every day and would like to
have this automated for my NAS setup. No solution here.

If anyone has similar experiences and possibly solutions for the issues
described here, then please share them. Thanks.

 

[eds]

Using the XBMC Build of 1/28/06, I’ve been able to access subfolder
in my Argosy/Tritton NAS. I stopped trying a while back because a
error would come up and the folder would show up blank. I was lea
to believe there was a problem with the way the NAS handled SM
shares. But now it seems the problem is almost fixed. I was able t
play one video file in a sub folder that had two. I was able t
access folders that had a bunch of mp3 files, but when I played on
it crashed. Another folder with only six mp3 files was able to pla
fine. I was also able to play other subfolders switching from mp3 t
mp3 with no problem. Hopefully this issue can be fully resolved soon

 

[brontus]

I've got this drive with a 200GB Samsung. However, I had to unplug it
this afternoon to move some things around, when I plugged it in, I
couldn't connect to any of the folders. When I went to
http://storage, it gave the drive status of: DRIVE NOT FOUND I tried
swaping the drive out for another, but it can't find that one either.
Meanwhile, when I plug the 200GB drive directly to the computer, the
drive works just fine. But the enclosure can't find any drive in it
as of this afternoon.

Anyone got any ideas?

 

[Quest]

i've been using the V-Gear Landisk with firmware 024 an that firmwar
realy is an improvment over the last one
besides it's the first firmware that works well with my linux seto
box
if your still using a firmware from tritton or argosy, i would giv
the Landisk 024 a try

Ques

 

[eds]

Questwrote
i've been using the V-Gear Landisk with firmware 024 an that firmwar
realy is an improvment over the last one

besides it's the first firmware that works well with my linux seto box
if your still using a firmware from tritton or argosy, i would giv the Landisk 024 a try

Ques

Will that firmware work on Argosy/Tritton NAS? I believe fixuse
destroyed his using a Vgear firmware

 

[Quest]

i just searched the thru the complete topic, and found out you
right
he realy wrote that he briked an argosy HD363N with the landisk v0.1
firmware
i don't if that was just a bad flash or if the firmware was th
problem, i firmwares from tried tritton and the argosy in my landis
and they always worked
if you don't want to try, maybe you should write the guys that sel
your lan and ask for a fixed firmware
best regard
Ques

 

[eds]

Questwrote
i just searched the thru the complete topic, and found out you
right

he realy wrote that he briked an argosy HD363N with the landis v0.19 firmware
i don't if that was just a bad flash or if the firmware was th

problem, i firmwares from tried tritton and the argosy in my landis
and they always worked

if you don't want to try, maybe you should write the guys that sel

your lan and ask for a fixed firmware

best regard
Ques

That's okay. Current firmware with today's build of XBMC is nea
perfect and that's what I use it for

 

[BigCity2]

Ok, have a problem using FTP hoping someone here can help me out.
have not been able to get the FTP to connect from a remote connectio
using any other port other than port 21. I've set the port on the HD
and also forwarded the appropriate ports on my router. I'm able t
get to it via FTP through the outside IP sitting on my couch but no
from work or any one else. Is there a setting I'm missing or
specific port I need to use other than 21 or can i only use port 21?
The goal will be to eventually run 2 of these drives on my networ
each on a separate port...any help would be much appreciated

 

[Peter]

Ok, have a problem using FTP hoping someone here can help me out. I
have not been able to get the FTP to connect from a remote connection
using any other port other than port 21. I've set the port on the HDD
and also forwarded the appropriate ports on my router. I'm able to
get to it via FTP through the outside IP sitting on my couch but not
from work or any one else. Is there a setting I'm missing or a
specific port I need to use other than 21 or can i only use port 21?
The goal will be to eventually run 2 of these drives on my network
each on a separate port...any help would be much appreciated.

What port did you enable on your router?
Learn how FTP works.
Check firewall log on your router.
Make appropriate firewall adjustments since you cannot adjust FTP settings
on your ARGOSY box.

 

[BigCity2]

I had tried 2-3 different ports 8004, 1150, 1250...all with the sam
result it connects but just doesn't display the folders. Is there
better port selection higher in the range, I have the firewall ope
on the router (Linkysys) so there shouldn't be any problems o
interference there and like I said when I switch back to the standar
port 21 it works

 

[Peter]

I had tried 2-3 different ports 8004, 1150, 1250...all with the same

result it connects but just doesn't display the folders. Is there a
better port selection higher in the range, I have the firewall open
on the router (Linkysys) so there shouldn't be any problems or
interference there and like I said when I switch back to the standard
port 21 it works.

Did you look in a firewall log on your router?

 

[Quest]

argosy taiwan released a new firmware on 2006-02-23
http://www.argosy.com.tw/mana_php/prod/file/ARGOSY-NetHDD006-1216.bi

if it's as good as the landisk firmware, most users won't have
reason to complain anymore :-
best regard
Ques

 

[BigCity2]

Peterwrote
[quote:9898ef263c]I had tried 2-3 different ports 8004, 1150
1250...all with the sam

result it connects but just doesn't display the folders. Is ther

better port selection higher in the range, I have the firewall ope
on the router (Linkysys) so there shouldn't be any problems o
interference there and like I said when I switch back to th standar
port 21 it works

Did you look in a firewall log on your router?[/quote:9898ef263c

No what would I be looking for exactly, i'm farily new to this area o
networking so most of this is pretty new...any input is appreciated

 

[Peter]

Did you look in a firewall log on your router?

No what would I be looking for exactly, i'm farily new to this area of
networking so most of this is pretty new...any input is appreciated.

What port activity got blocked at the exact time you were trying to use FTP.

 

[segbert]

The Argosy 006-1216 firmware appears to fix the SET-EOF file proble
previously discussed.
I have tried the test procedure that I previously posted with both W9
and W2k, and it no longer leaves the extra lines at the end of th
file with either OS

Wahoo :

 

[ukcobra]

segbertwrote
The Argosy 006-1216 firmware appears to fix the SET-EOF file proble
previously discussed.

I have tried the test procedure that I previously posted with bot

W98 and W2k, and it no longer leaves the extra lines at the end o
the file with either OS

Wahoo :

So where do you get the -1216 firmware from, as I can opnly see -101
on the website

Mar