Anyone able to hibernate an Athlon64 based system under WindowsXP?

[Tillerman]

Hello!

After overcoming many of the problems* which my new system (see below
for a system summary) provided me with, I am now trying to get the
computer into hibernation. The problem is NOT that I don't have the
option. Only the computer hangs when saying "preparing to hibernate".
I assume that one of the non-certified drivers that I had to install
causes the problem. I tried to find certified drivers for all of the
hardware, but I did not succeede in all cases. Non-certified drivers
(as far as I can remember):
- AMD processor- and Cool 'n' Quiet-driver (absolutely necessary for
Cool 'n' Quiet, which is in turn absolutely necessary to run the
computer on a hot summersday in a noise-reduced case!)
- ISDN Capi-port driver (no discussions about ISDN, please! I hate it
too! I can't get around it and I'm almost sure that this driver isn't
the bad guy)

I know that it should be quite easy to deinstall all of the
AMD-drivers and try once more. But I am a little bit tired of having
done these steps for the last 4 months. So if anybody out there found
out already that there is a connection between the AMD-C&Q-driver and
hibernation problems, please let me know! Or could it be a
software-related problem? I heard of problems with daemon-tools and
creation of the hiberfile, and others. I am using daemon-tools as
virtual-CD-driver and cloneCD4.

Thanks in advance!

Tillerman

*) Among the problems were:
- Cool&Quiet caused severe problems leading to spontaneous reboots and
loss of complete partitions when using 2 double-sided DDR-DIMMs (2x
MDT 512mB DDR400 CL3). Trying 2 Kingston-DIMMs now, will try a single
1gB DIMM if it still doesn't work.
- Sequence of drivers to install matters: don't try to install a non
WHQL-certified NVIDIA-driver prior to DirectX 9, SP1 or SP2! You will
have a non-resolvable logon-problem, ergo you will have to reinstall
Windows from scratch. It took me a while to find out the exact
sequence that works dor me...

My system:

ASUS K8V SE Deluxe
AMD Athlon 64 3200+
Zalman Cooler
2x512mB DDR RAM 400MHz, currently only one DIMM installed
PNY Geforce 5700 LE 128mB
Drives:
160gB Maxtor 7.2k 8mB
160gB Samsung 5.4k 2mB
80gB WD 7.2k 2mB
Ricoh 4x DVD+ Burner
(all connected to the PATA controllers of the southbridge rather than
any of the fancy SATA/Raid controllers)
350W AC adapter

 

[Yousuf Khan]

I know that it should be quite easy to deinstall all of the
AMD-drivers and try once more. But I am a little bit tired of having
done these steps for the last 4 months. So if anybody out there found
out already that there is a connection between the AMD-C&Q-driver and
hibernation problems, please let me know! Or could it be a
software-related problem? I heard of problems with daemon-tools and
creation of the hiberfile, and others. I am using daemon-tools as
virtual-CD-driver and cloneCD4.

If you're worried about whether any of the device drivers are causing
problems for you, then use the Microsoft-supplied Driver Verifier program
(verifier.exe). It puts the kernel into an extra careful mode, and it stops
device drivers in their tracks if they attempt to do anything dangerous. Of
course, if this happens, you'll see a BSOD during startup with a "Stop:
0xC4" message, so you'll have to go Safe Mode quite a bit to rerun the
verifier program and remove protection against certain drivers. It won't
make the drivers any better, but it will give you a hint as which ones are
possibly bad, so when the WHQL-certified versions come out, you'll have
them.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=244617

My system:

ASUS K8V SE Deluxe

Hmm, an Asus motherboard with a VIA chipset, eh? I'm not a big fan of these
things. I tend to prefer anything from SiS or Nvidia before anything from
VIA.

Yousuf Khan

 

[Jason Cothran]

I know this doesn't help, but in answer to your subject question, no
problems here with hibernation.

 

[Lachoneus]

*) Among the problems were:

- Cool&Quiet caused severe problems leading to spontaneous reboots and
loss of complete partitions when using 2 double-sided DDR-DIMMs (2x
MDT 512mB DDR400 CL3). Trying 2 Kingston-DIMMs now, will try a single
1gB DIMM if it still doesn't work.

So did you find a solution for this?

I have two double-sided DDR DIMMs (Corsair Value Select 512MB CAS2.5) in
my K8N-E Deluxe and I can't get Cool&Quiet to work at all. No reboots,
but no CPU/voltage throttling either.

Maybe I'll try yanking one of the DIMMs to see if it makes a difference.
(That would suck if it did.)

 

[Tillerman]

I know this doesn't help, but in answer to your subject question, no

problems here with hibernation.

That help for sure! I need to know as many positive examples as
possible, because I already thought about living without
hibernate-mode. Actually, as tings are, I DO live without hibernating
since May...

Tillerman

 

[Tillerman]

Yes, I found a solution! I found one guy in the groups who used the
exact same mainboard and identical MDT RAM-modules (512mB, DDR400,
Cl3) and had the same problems. He pinned it down to the inability of
the ASUS K8V SE deluxe to work well with two "double-sided DIMMs". All
SIMMs ov 512mB and larger appear to be double-sided, so you would
acutually have to use one single 1gB module to get 1gB with Cool&Quiet
working.
I was not able to return my MDT-memory-modules for a 1gB one, but the
vendor gave me 2 Kingsten DDR400 Cl3 512mB modules which miraculopusly
work well also with C'n'Q activated!

Apparently your problem is of slightly different kind. I was always
able to activate C'n'Q (1. in BIOS, 2. install AMD-processor driver,
3. set power scheme in WindowsXP settings to "Minimal Power
Management"). I just had the reboots, which already decreased in
number when "Always On" was selected from the power schemes, and
disappeared completely when C'n'Q was disabled in BIOS. The AMD
processor driver appears to be OK, thus.

Hope I could help.

Tillerman

 

[Lachoneus]

All SIMMs ov 512mB and larger appear to be double-sided, so you would

acutually have to use one single 1gB module to get 1gB with Cool&Quiet
working.

Actually, my problem was two-fold:

(1) I had C'n'Q enabled in the BIOS, but not ACPI 2.0, which is a
prerequisite.

(2) I didn't have the proper driver installed. The built-in driver in
XP SP2 does not function, and the .EXE installer from AMD's web site
fails to replace it. Pulling the driver from the .ZIP file and manually
installing it did the trick.

Now my system is up and running with two double-sided DDR400 512MB DIMMs
(The mobo is an ASUS K8N-E and the memory is a Corsair Value Select 1GB
kit). Haven't had any stability problems with it in the two days it's
been enabled (including about an hour of Prime95).