Adobe Reader - WARNING

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gecko_404

Not a chance. True, I don't use Adobe for particularly sensitive
documents, but I simply refuse to go back to 6.0. Uses up far too many
resources, takes forever to load, etc.

So what's a good replacement? Is there another free .pdf reader out there?

Chakolate

Ghostscript / GSview will do the trick.

My problem with the Adobe viewer is that I've come across a few
..pdf files that v4 chokes on and won't open. When I tried to
install v6 it wouldn't install because I'm running w98 first
edition and it needs w98SE.

___________________
Graeme Challinor
 
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Achim Nolcken Lohse

Which is the best older version to use??
I use AR4.05. At the beginning version 4 was released without a search
function. AR4.05 has search capability. I've noticed that some very
large Canadian corporations are still using Version 4.05 also.



Achim



axethetax
 
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Bill Jones

: :
: > NGSSoftware contacted Adobe about the flaw and been told that the latest
: > version of the reader, 6.0, did not suffer from it. It has recommended to
: > all its clients that they upgrade immediately. µ
: >
:
: Not a chance. True, I don't use Adobe for particularly sensitive
: documents, but I simply refuse to go back to 6.0. Uses up far too many
: resources, takes forever to load, etc.
:
: So what's a good replacement? Is there another free .pdf reader out there?
:
: Chakolate
:
: --
: Not to be absolutely certain is, I think, one of the essential things in
: rationality.
: --Bertrand Russell

Adobe 6.0.1 runs fine on my PIII 866 with Adobe Reader Speedup freeware. I
mostly look at PDF's from Slim Browser. No complaints.
 
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Cousin Stanley

| ....
| Frankly, I wish .pdf files would go away.
| ....

Me too, in general they're a big pain ....

It's also amazing to me
that there are so many requests here
for software that creates .pdf files ....
 
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JanC

Me too, in general they're a big pain ....

It's also amazing to me
that there are so many requests here
for software that creates .pdf files ....

PDF files are good for documents where layout and/or nice printing is
important. For viewing information on the web, it's obvious that a HTML
file is much better & easier...
 
T

Tritoneur

John Corliss said:
Thanks! I was looking for this one.

--
Regards from John Corliss
No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware,
nagware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware, viruses
or warez please.

Don't mention it.
 
R

Rob

John said:
Great. Now I have to use that bloated, slow piece of shit, 6.0. I
wonder if that version still has that bug that keeps a module running
when you view a .pdf file online, leading inevitably to a lockup of
Mozilla.

You don't have to use an Adobe product for PDF viewing or even creation.

Try GSView and Ghostscript. or PDFReader.

Rob
 
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Cousin Stanley

| PDF files are good for documents where layout
| and/or nice printing is important.
|
| For viewing information on the web,
| it's obvious that a HTML file is much better & easier...

Cousin JanC ....

I've seen the statements before that mention
that PDF is good for layout and printing ....

Layout using CSS in HTML is fairly simple,
although something that has to be learned,
but unless Acrobat provides some sort of
super-easy WYSIWYG mode for layout,
it seems to me that anything I've seen
layout-wise in PDF could also be done
in CSS/HTML ....

I don't understand the supposed printing advantages
of PDF at all ....

Does the PDF format include extra special embedded
print directives that say make this rendering more beautiful
or do something print-wise that you wouldn't normally do
when printing a lowly HTML file ????
 
T

Ted K

This is OT but it is related.

I have been getting the following error msg when trying to open a pdf
file from a number of different web sites: "File does ot begin with
'%pdf-' " It pops up after the file seems to have been run through
from beginning to end (based on the active icon).

One of the sites is my internet bank and they imply that I am nuts and
that the file is ok.

In most instances it works fine (i.e., on my bank site I have no
trouble with my bank statment opening). Anyone have a clue as to what
is going on?
 
W

William F. Adams

Cousin Stanley asked:
I've seen the statements before that mention
that PDF is good for layout and printing ....=20
Layout using CSS in HTML is fairly simple,
although something that has to be learned,
but unless Acrobat provides some sort of
super-easy WYSIWYG mode for layout,
it seems to me that anything I've seen
layout-wise in PDF could also be done
in CSS/HTML ....=20

Acrobat affords one the ability to convert from any PostScript representation
into .pdf --- there are also a number of other tools which will make .pdfs
which have far more capabilities. pdfTeX is an especially good example, see Han
The Thanh's doctoral thesis on its typesetting capabilities (available from
www.tug.org/tugboat).

I've a couple of things in my on-line portfolio which show some of the
possibilities of what can be done w/ .pdf. http://members.aol.com/willadams

One can also see a number of interesting .pdfs at
http://www.tug.org/texshowcase

(I've a couple of things in there)

Pretty much the only alternatives for this are Flash or SVG. There aren't any
freeware tools for the former, and the latter is still nascent, w/ few
authoring tools and even fewer viewers. I just tried one of the former and it
crashed w/ even the simplest of objects from FreeHand (as well as from
FutureWave SmartSketch and Creaturehouse Expression).
I don't understand the supposed printing advantages
of PDF at all ....=20
Does the PDF format include extra special embedded=20
print directives that say make this rendering more beautiful=20
or do something print-wise that you wouldn't normally do
when printing a lowly HTML file ????

I've yet to see a way to represent a spot colour in HTML. Embedding fonts
robustly is another advantage of .pdfs, as is the ability to be certain of
pagination and scaling --- there are even printers which will directly accept a
..pdf copied to them for printing.

William
 
M

Mister Charlie

Ted K said:
This is OT but it is related.

I have been getting the following error msg when trying to open a pdf
file from a number of different web sites: "File does ot begin with
'%pdf-' " It pops up after the file seems to have been run through
from beginning to end (based on the active icon).

One of the sites is my internet bank and they imply that I am nuts and
that the file is ok.

In most instances it works fine (i.e., on my bank site I have no
trouble with my bank statment opening). Anyone have a clue as to what
is going on?

I'm having the same problem with the California DMV site. I have the
latest Reader 6.0. I just assumed DMV was using an old technology that
was not backwards compatible (they recommend Adobe Reader 4.0). It
would be nice to find out whassup with this.
 
O

Onno

You don't have to use an Adobe product for PDF viewing or even creation.

Try GSView and Ghostscript. or PDFReader.

I tried them. They choke on many pdf files, so I had no choice but to
install Acrobat Reader.
 
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Al Smith

Frankly, I wish .pdf files would go away. I'll actually avoid a website in a search engine hit list if it shows that going there will open a .pdf file.

For most uses, PDF files are more of a pain than an advantage. If
you could copy and manipulate the files easily, it would be
different. I wouldn't cry if they disappeared.
 
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Christopher Jahn

And said:
For most uses, PDF files are more of a pain than an
advantage. If you could copy and manipulate the files
easily, it would be different.

Of coursre, that would completely negate the point of using
PDF files; a document that doesn't change in viewing and can't
be inadvertantly altered.


--
:) Christopher Jahn
:-(

http://home.comcast.net/~xjahn/Main.html

Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else.
 
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]-[emLok

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Gordon Darling wrote:
[snip]

Great. Now I have to use that bloated, slow piece of shit, 6.0. I
wonder if that version still has that bug that keeps a module
running when you view a .pdf file online, leading inevitably to a
lockup of Mozilla.

It still happens with v6. Not always but sometimes. I need to
experiment more but I think I've noticed a trend as to when it
happens on my system.

/]-[emLok

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-
A cat that meoweth much catcheth but few mice.
 
I

Iain Cheyne

I simply won't use software that takes that much effort to get
to run correctly. F*** 'em.

Manually moving plugins from the Plugins directory into the Optional
directory and turning off the splash screen is simple and quick.
 

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