Ace, Kevin and other MVPs

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

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We know nothing..nothing I tell you... lol
oh wait...that's what I get! heh

I know nottin!!! NOttin!!

ok, had one 2 years ago,
I will look for link and if not online anymore will check archive.

Ok, thanks, would be nice to see that in action.

I was try to modify it into one I was making at the time,
the one that was available is a little like a satellite map
of Earth (click on continent..then on a state...then town)
pre-grouped and settled with a few million links then add
your own or setup new zones/layers, very cool. You will
need at least 1024 screen setting (and good eyes)!. ;-)

Sounds good, an orb that one customizes it with arc pie slices. Be nice to
check that out. Maybe we can go a step further and make it touchscreen
capable?




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[Jonathan de Boyne Pollard]

MF> It's possible that [eurodude is] thinking and comparing this
MF> specific vendor community tp the other general Usenet groups
MF> available to the public, (like the ones that you have acces
MF> to with your ISP subscription) [...]

Actually, this newsgroup _is_ one of the Usenet newsgroups that my ISP carries
on its local servers. (And, out of good neighbourliness, in order to assist
in reducing the bandwidth requirements on the rest of Internet, that is where
I pick it up from.) I suspect that this is true for many people, and that
most of the ISPs that provide local Usenet news servers carry the
"microsoft.public.*" newsgroup hierarchy.

(I recommend that everyone who can pick this newsgroup up locally, do so.)

 

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

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It's possible that [eurodude is] thinking and comparing this
specific vendor community tp the other general Usenet groups
available to the public, (like the ones that you have acces
to with your ISP subscription) [...]

Actually, this newsgroup _is_ one of the Usenet newsgroups that my
ISP carries on its local servers. (And, out of good neighbourliness,
in order to assist in reducing the bandwidth requirements on the rest
of Internet, that is where I pick it up from.) I suspect that this
is true for many people, and that most of the ISPs that provide local
Usenet news servers carry the "microsoft.public.*" newsgroup
hierarchy.

(I recommend that everyone who can pick this newsgroup up locally, do
so.)

True, maybe I should have re-worded it describing this group as more of a
technical product specific community with a specific topic, as are the other
groups out there with their own specific topics, like a Frank Zappa group or
something else, no matter how bizarre they may *appear* be. But I guess the
point was that these MS groups are based on MS products, such as the
Macromedia groups, or the PHP groups, where they're product specific for
tech support.. what do you think?

btw- I actually connect directly to it as well.

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Ace

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[abuchan]

"But I guess the point was that these MS groups are based on MS products,
such as the
Macromedia groups, or the PHP groups, where they're product specific for
tech support.. what do you think?"

This statement has gone too far. Even a product specific newsgroup, not
necessarily has to be a tech support newsgroup.

"Ace Fekay [MVP]"

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It's possible that [eurodude is] thinking and comparing this
specific vendor community tp the other general Usenet groups
available to the public, (like the ones that you have acces
to with your ISP subscription) [...]

Actually, this newsgroup _is_ one of the Usenet newsgroups that my
ISP carries on its local servers. (And, out of good neighbourliness,
in order to assist in reducing the bandwidth requirements on the rest
of Internet, that is where I pick it up from.) I suspect that this
is true for many people, and that most of the ISPs that provide local
Usenet news servers carry the "microsoft.public.*" newsgroup
hierarchy.

(I recommend that everyone who can pick this newsgroup up locally, do
so.)

True, maybe I should have re-worded it describing this group as more of a
technical product specific community with a specific topic, as are the other
groups out there with their own specific topics, like a Frank Zappa group or
something else, no matter how bizarre they may *appear* be. But I guess the
point was that these MS groups are based on MS products, such as the
Macromedia groups, or the PHP groups, where they're product specific for
tech support.. what do you think?

btw- I actually connect directly to it as well.

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Ace

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[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

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"But I guess the point was that these MS groups are based on MS
products, such as the
Macromedia groups, or the PHP groups, where they're product specific
for tech support.. what do you think?"

This statement has gone too far. Even a product specific newsgroup,
not necessarily has to be a tech support newsgroup.

This whole thread started with Eurodude critiqueing bottom posting and he
feels it should *not* be done and developed into other critiques.

If you ask me, to begin with, the whole thread was off topic to this group,
whether it were a tech support, collaboration or sharing of ideas group, or
all the above, but it had nothing to do with the general topic of this
group.


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Ace

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[William Stacey [MVP]]

Lets all have some Captain Morgans...Its Friday!!!

 

[Jonathan de Boyne Pollard]

JdeBP> (I recommend that everyone who can pick this newsgroup
JdeBP> up locally, do so.)

MF> btw- I actually connect directly to it as well.

Which: "directly" as in directly to Microsoft's NNTP servers, or "directly" as
in directly to local NNTP servers provided by your ISP ? It's the latter that
I recommend.

 

[Jonathan de Boyne Pollard]

MF> the point was that these MS groups are based on MS products,
MF> such as the Macromedia groups, or the PHP groups, where they're
MF> product specific for tech support.. what do you think?

I wouldn't say technical _support_, because that implies that our rôle here is
simply and only to respond to support requests. I'd say technical
_discussion_.

 

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

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Lets all have some Captain Morgans...Its Friday!!!

I'll have a Crown!

Salute!

 

[William Stacey [MVP]]

Good taste.

 

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

Good taste.


Tastes great too!

 

[Thomas Lee]

JdeBP> (I recommend that everyone who can pick this newsgroup
JdeBP> up locally, do so.)

MF> btw- I actually connect directly to it as well.

Which: "directly" as in directly to Microsoft's NNTP servers, or "directly" as
in directly to local NNTP servers provided by your ISP ? It's the latter that
I recommend.

In general, I tend to recommend people use news.microsoft.com - NNTP
transfers to ISPs is less reliable.

 

[Jonathan de Boyne Pollard]

JdeBP> Which: "directly" as in directly to Microsoft's NNTP servers,
JdeBP> or "directly" as in directly to local NNTP servers provided
JdeBP> by your ISP ? It's the latter that I recommend.

TL> In general, I tend to recommend people use news.microsoft.com
TL> - NNTP transfers to ISPs is less reliable.

That's not my experience at all. And, as I said, NNTP to a local server
provided by one's ISP reduces the bandwidth requirements.

 

[William Stacey [MVP]]

That would probably depend on a case basis. Take an example. If a small
ISP has say 100 active news readers. However, they sync all those billion
news groups onto their local server to service maybe 400 news groups. I
think you can make a case either way. Naturally, we will never know unless
we find a study on this and get data from many ISPs on bandwidth, etc. You
also have to figure out how many people are reading the ms.dns at that ISP.
aaah, maybe 0 to one. I don't see bandwidth as a major issue here. More
bandwidth is used up on junk like spam (etc) then will ever be used on this
little posts here.

 

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

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JdeBP> (I recommend that everyone who can pick this newsgroup
JdeBP> up locally, do so.)


Which: "directly" as in directly to Microsoft's NNTP servers, or
"directly" as in directly to local NNTP servers provided by your ISP
? It's the latter that I recommend.

No thru my ISP, but rather direct to news.microsoft.com, which I thought you
knew what I meant.

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Ace

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[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

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I wouldn't say technical _support_, because that implies that our
rôle here is simply and only to respond to support requests. I'd say
technical _discussion_.

I agree...

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Ace

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[Thomas Lee]

JdeBP> Which: "directly" as in directly to Microsoft's NNTP servers,
JdeBP> or "directly" as in directly to local NNTP servers provided
JdeBP> by your ISP ? It's the latter that I recommend.

TL> In general, I tend to recommend people use news.microsoft.com
TL> - NNTP transfers to ISPs is less reliable.

That's not my experience at all. And, as I said, NNTP to a local server
provided by one's ISP reduces the bandwidth requirements.

Well - I've been using msnews.micrsoft.com since it first opened (and
there WAS no ISP peering).

Today not all messages get passed on there are a bunch of island groups
out there on random ISP servers - mainly because the newsmaster at MS
does not issue checkgroups, or proper control messages.

As to bandwidth requirements of an ISP - that's not my problem!


Thomas