A quick movie for Vista users! So funny!

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Ted Landry

bp said:
If your MAC is so good why does it have a Windows emulater?

ah, first of all... it's not MAC... it's Mac, or mac... NEVER "MAC". So
you are wrong right at the start.

2nd... no Mac comes with a "Windows" emulator... that's only added later
for people still needing hand holding before they enter the modern
computer world. and 3rd, it's NOT an "emulator", it's a Virtual Machine.

Read up on it next time...

http://www.parallels.com/
 
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Mike G

according to apple.com it is ".Mac" ??

Ted Landry said:
ah, first of all... it's not MAC... it's Mac, or mac... NEVER "MAC". So
you are wrong right at the start.

2nd... no Mac comes with a "Windows" emulator... that's only added later
for people still needing hand holding before they enter the modern
computer world. and 3rd, it's NOT an "emulator", it's a Virtual Machine.

Read up on it next time...

http://www.parallels.com/
 
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Julie Smith

I'm not trying to flame... but I hate bottom posting! I have to scroll all
the way down just to read your post because I read the posts before it. I
don't want to read the indented text messages. That said, I dont mind
bottom-posted emails. But bottom posting in newsgroups is useless.
 
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Michael Jennings

M comes before N which make dot you know which better.
Might have to be a mactroll to be able to figure that one out?
 
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Ted Landry

Mike G said:
according to apple.com it is ".Mac" ??

No, .Mac is an online service for Mac users.

Steve's .Mac page is here:

http://homepage.mac.com/steve/Resume.html

if you want to learn more about .Mac (or dotmac as some people call it)
go here:

http://www.mac.com/

but Apple refers to the Macintosh, as a Mac or mac or Macintosh, never
MAC since MAC in all caps means "Media Access Control". And every
computer has a MAC address, thus the reason you can't interchange the
two meanings.

lastly, some uneducated people think "Mac" is a company, meaning they
mistakenly say something like:

If MAC would get a built-in toaster, I'd buy one...

When it's only correct to say: "If Macs would get a built-in toaster...

Or, "If Apple would put a built-in toaster into a Mac, I'd buy one...
 
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Ted Landry

Julie Smith said:
I'm not trying to flame... but I hate bottom posting! I have to scroll all
the way down just to read your post because I read the posts before it. I
don't want to read the indented text messages. That said, I dont mind
bottom-posted emails. But bottom posting in newsgroups is useless.

yes, but you aren't using a "real" newsreader, you are using Microsoft
Outlook Express 6.0 which isn't designed to work with Usenet.

for the PC, get something like Forte Agent and you'll understand why the
keepers of Usenet / maintainers of proper netiquette demand that replies
be at the bottom.

http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php

lastly, part of the problem is newbies don't understand they need to
"trim" or "snip" unneeded content when they reply... so for people like
you Julie, I understand since the thread may be too long, too much
trouble to go to the bottom, but if they would learn how to properly
"reply", it's not a problem.

These "vista" groups are quite new, so it will take awhile before people
learn to do it properly.
 
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Ted Landry

This is my favorite part! :)

The thing is, Jim is right and Bill and Steve still sat on their arses
and did nothing. Bill is starting to come around, but Steve is probably
never going to be able to be objective about their software again, he's
too much of a Billy butt boy now.

yes, Steve Ballmer is the village idiot of Microsoft. I watched a
mini-documentary on him a few months back, and he's actually from
Detroit and his father was a manager at Ford! So no wonder quality is
so poor with MS products. He has no background in computing, he was just
an aggressive friend of Bill. Once Bill leaves MS next summer, Steve B
is going to drive MS right into the ground. At least with Bill you kinda
feel sorry for him, he's kinda awkward and not very gifted with the
spoken word.
 
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Guest

Mr. Landry, apparently you haven't been inside an Apple store lately. The
one in the Annapolis Mall offers their Macs with dual operating
systems....OSX AND WIN XP. The whole reason for switching to INTEL was to
enter the faster, more compliant platforms.
 
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Diamontina Cocktail

Mac-Intosh......

Mc-DONALDS....

All rubbish designed to fill a hole while waiting for life to occur.
 
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Ted Landry

Bob said:
Mr. Landry, apparently you haven't been inside an Apple store lately. The
one in the Annapolis Mall offers their Macs with dual operating
systems....OSX AND WIN XP. The whole reason for switching to INTEL was to
enter the faster, more compliant platforms.

But Apple will never sell you one configured that way. They have no need
for Windows. That's just a working demo for the Windows users so they
can feel comfortable while they make the switch to a more modern OS.

Windows is basically seen as "Utility Software" by the Mac community.
It's rarely needed anymore, but some old timers keep it around for
nostalgia.
 
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Adam Albright

But Apple will never sell you one configured that way. They have no need
for Windows. That's just a working demo for the Windows users so they
can feel comfortable while they make the switch to a more modern OS.

Windows is basically seen as "Utility Software" by the Mac community.
It's rarely needed anymore, but some old timers keep it around for
nostalgia.


That's what I said about my orignial mint condition TRS-80 from Radio
Shack. A Mac very much reminds of that. The Mac community is basically
cooks, fools and wild eyed zealots that don't know any better.

http://www.weller.to/wcc/trs/wcctani__01l.jpg
 
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Ted Landry

Adam Albright said:
That's what I said about my orignial mint condition TRS-80 from Radio
Shack. A Mac very much reminds of that. The Mac community is basically
cooks, fools and wild eyed zealots that don't know any better.

http://www.weller.to/wcc/trs/wcctani__01l.jpg

Nah, Macs are just the epicenter of the computer world, what Apple does,
everyone else follows. And that's been true for a little over 30 years.
 
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Peter Foldes

That's what I said about my orignial mint condition TRS-80 from Radio
Shack. A Mac very much reminds of that. The Mac community is basically
cooks, fools and wild eyed zealots that don't know any better.



I did not know that they were also cooks . Any good? :)
 
S

Scott

I'm not trying to flame... but I hate bottom posting! I have to scroll all
the way down just to read your post because I read the posts before it. I
don't want to read the indented text messages. That said, I dont mind
bottom-posted emails. But bottom posting in newsgroups is useless.

If don't properly, the post is trimmed and responses may be
interspersed throughout/.

Not to mention posts have a tendency of not hitting all news servers,
thus preserving the post in chronological order helps with that.
 
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Darkelldar

Ted Landry said:
how so? OSX has been tested much longer than Windows, it dates back to
the early 70's before Microsoft was even around... follow the Unix
history chart back... follow the OSX line back and you'll see Windows
doesn't even compare in terms of being "battle tested" more than OSX.

http://www.levenez.com/unix/

If OXS is such a fantastic OS why is there not an IBM PC version out there
? Sould kick MS's butt according to you.
 
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Adam Albright

Nah, Macs are just the epicenter of the computer world, what Apple does,
everyone else follows. And that's been true for a little over 30 years.

You seem more delusional with each new post. The reality is nobody
follows Apple. They have been playing catch up from almost the
beginning and have got nowhere fast.

Steve Jobs has always been and remains a maverick. He made a classic
business model mistake that has stiffled Apple's growth and still does
today. Jobs being one of the all time greedy and most arrogant SOB's
in world history had some initial success foolishly decided early on
to go with a closed architecture supposedly to hog all the profits.
This meant no other company could offer any expansion cards, even hard
drives or monitors, not even keyboards. Everything had to be Apple and
so it remained for years.

Meanwhile, IBM had a team headed by Don Estridge at Boca Raton Fl
quickly design a "personal" computer. Being very experienced and use
to working for a giant corporation he quickly decided the only way to
go was to use tested vendor technology that was already mostly
standardized and most important; base IBM's personal computer on open
architecture.

Newsweek magazine quickly called the IBM PC "a roaring success," and
the New York Times said, "The speed and extent to which IBM has been
successful has surprised many people, including IBM itself."

The time was 1981 just a few years after Apple's introduction of a
personal computer and quickly lost most of what little market it had,
IBM quickly gaining over 70% of the PC market which quickly expanded
due to some clever advertsing including unhead of before tv
commericals to pitch computers to Joe Average.

That was just the beginning. Because IBM used open architecture
several new companies sprang up overnight all offering IBM PC clones.
This of course drove the market and many new intovations quickly
followed. Shortly after there were over a 100 companies offering
personal computers. Two remain today, Dell and Gateway. Other major
players over the years have also joined the race, many others got
their foot in the door but didn't stick around long and for reasons
never really explained IBM in spite of their initial success never
really got serious about developing their PC line, one top executive
admitting they thought the personal computer was just a passing fad.
That probably is one of the biggest blunders in modern business
history considering how the personal computer market has grown where
today most households have at least one PC, many two or three which
PC's now found in nearly every country in the world.

So sorry, your view of history regarding personal computers is very
distorted. Nearly overnight since IBM jumped into the picture PC
clones have had almost 95% of the market and Apple has never recovered
from the early glory days that only last a few years.

Mac freaks are a special bunch. Loyal for sure, also fatanical, but
they are also a tiny minority and will so remain. Its a Windows world,
so sorry to burst your bubble Bubba.
 
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Diamontina Cocktail

Adam Albright said:
That's what I said about my orignial mint condition TRS-80 from Radio
Shack. A Mac very much reminds of that. The Mac community is basically
cooks, fools and wild eyed zealots that don't know any better.

http://www.weller.to/wcc/trs/wcctani__01l.jpg

If everyone could get over this argument it would be good. We know PC stands
for Personal Computer and Mac stands for Mothers And Children and they both
serve those separate fields well. Mothers And Children can learn to type on
a keyboard and get that experience before owning a real computer, a PC. So,
as you can see, a Mac serves a purpose.
 
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Ted Landry

Darkelldar said:
If OXS is such a fantastic OS why is there not an IBM PC version out there
? Sould kick MS's butt according to you.

The IBM "compatible" market is in shambles. It's not the sort of
hardware mix you would want to put a high end OS on. A good 40% of the
problems Windows users deal with is that they may have saved $40 on a PC
from HP or Dell... over buying a Mac from Apple, but they have spent
$400 in time and stress to clear up problems Apple doesn't allow to
happen in the first place.

In other words, Apple would never stoup to the poor quality standards of
IBM "compatibles", it just doesn't make sense from a user's perspective.

Yes, releasing OSX would shake the entire computing world, but over
time, it's possible that without A LOT of control over the hardware,
everyone would be back to the same mess PC users are stuck with now.

Basically, Apple is like the old... AT&T / Ma Bell... they sell you the
Phone, AND everything to make it work properly on the network. It's a
much better system IF you value your time and you are smart with money.

If NOT, you buy a Windows based PC and suffer. It's really that simple.
 

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