J
John Corliss
Chrissy said:
This isn't what happened and you know it. Junkmonkey was advising the
OP to give up and to purchase either Quicken or MS Money.
This isn't what happened and you know it. Junkmonkey was advising the
OP to give up and to purchase either Quicken or MS Money.
G
Glenn
John Corliss said:
You are one sad individual. I don't if I should feel sorry for you or not.
I don't know if it is arrogance or paranoia that drives you but get over
yourself. You are showing yourself to be a fool.
I'm going to have to shock you back to reality by saying I think Microsoft
has good stuff and I use a lot of it. I use WordPerfect also. I use a lot
of freeware too. Welcome to the *real* world.
Glenn
G
galia
Hello, John!
You wrote on Thu, 05 Aug 2004 15:58:21 -0700:
JC> galia wrote:
??>> Glenn wrote:
??>>> John Corliss wrote:
??>>>>
??>>>> What amazes me is that some people simply cannot grasp the concept
??>>>> of the damage that will result to this group if it starts
??>>>> becoming adulterated with chatter about non-freeware.
??>>>
??>>> Look, a poster came here looking for a freeware. He was very
??>>> specific about what he wanted it to do. Another poster answered that
??>>> he didn't believe there was any freeware that equaled what the first
??>>> guy wanted.
JC> And then he went on to recommend a commercial software solution. AND
JC> THAT'S BULLSHIT! PERIOD!
??>>> Big deal!! It was one paragraph!! Talk about chatter. Two guys who
??>>> sign in as John have been chattering about it every since, page upon
??>>> page. Get over it!! It was an innocent remark of a guy trying to be
??>>> helpful.
??>>>>
??>>>> What's so hard about taking a commercial software recommendation to
??>>>> a more appropriate group or to email?
??>>>
??>>> Because the guy came HERE. Don't drive him away or he'll never come
??>>> back!!
??>>>>
??>>>> Look, do you want to have a vote on this issue? That can easily be
??>>>> arranged.
??>>>
??>>> That would be interesting. What would the question be? Should
??>>> freedom of speech be denied there?
JC> Don't be a smartass, Glenn. You know damned good and well what the
JC> question would be:
JC> "Should commercial programs be recommended in ACF if
JC> there is no freeware available to meet a person's request?"
JC> And here's a little question for you to consider: who is going to
JC> determine when there ISN'T a freeware solution available?
??>> I agree with you Glenn. The whole argument about mentioning shareware
JC> The recommendation was for commercial software products, specifically
JC> Quicken and Microsoft Money, not a shareware product (although
JC> shareware is off topic here too.) And although at first glance it may
JC> appear that JunkMonkey was simply pointing out features desired in
JC> freeware substitutes, it should be remembered that this is the role of
JC> the OP, NOT the respondant. JunkMonkey's post damned near read like an
JC> advertisement for both programs.
??>> in one paragraph is just ridiculous. Me thinks, rules and regulations
??>> are more important than giving someone sound advice.
JC> Both you and Glenn are missing the point entirely. The name of this
JC> group is *ALT.COMP.FREEWARE*. Discussion of any other type of software
JC> in this group (unless when the OP is using it as an example of
JC> features desired in a freeware) simply clutters up the group and makes
JC> it unusable.
JC> If I came here looking for a freeware solution and somebody
JC> recommended a commercial program instead, I'd tell that individual to
JC> FOAD.
JC> Listen, this group has no charter and is unmoderated. Yep, you can
JC> talk about anything you like.... porn, gambling, warez, etc. However,
JC> don't expect to do so and not get flamed.
I am sorry, but I don't agree with you, period .....
You wrote on Thu, 05 Aug 2004 15:58:21 -0700:
JC> galia wrote:
??>> Glenn wrote:
??>>> John Corliss wrote:
??>>>>
??>>>> What amazes me is that some people simply cannot grasp the concept
??>>>> of the damage that will result to this group if it starts
??>>>> becoming adulterated with chatter about non-freeware.
??>>>
??>>> Look, a poster came here looking for a freeware. He was very
??>>> specific about what he wanted it to do. Another poster answered that
??>>> he didn't believe there was any freeware that equaled what the first
??>>> guy wanted.
JC> And then he went on to recommend a commercial software solution. AND
JC> THAT'S BULLSHIT! PERIOD!
??>>> Big deal!! It was one paragraph!! Talk about chatter. Two guys who
??>>> sign in as John have been chattering about it every since, page upon
??>>> page. Get over it!! It was an innocent remark of a guy trying to be
??>>> helpful.
??>>>>
??>>>> What's so hard about taking a commercial software recommendation to
??>>>> a more appropriate group or to email?
??>>>
??>>> Because the guy came HERE. Don't drive him away or he'll never come
??>>> back!!
??>>>>
??>>>> Look, do you want to have a vote on this issue? That can easily be
??>>>> arranged.
??>>>
??>>> That would be interesting. What would the question be? Should
??>>> freedom of speech be denied there?
JC> Don't be a smartass, Glenn. You know damned good and well what the
JC> question would be:
JC> "Should commercial programs be recommended in ACF if
JC> there is no freeware available to meet a person's request?"
JC> And here's a little question for you to consider: who is going to
JC> determine when there ISN'T a freeware solution available?
??>> I agree with you Glenn. The whole argument about mentioning shareware
JC> The recommendation was for commercial software products, specifically
JC> Quicken and Microsoft Money, not a shareware product (although
JC> shareware is off topic here too.) And although at first glance it may
JC> appear that JunkMonkey was simply pointing out features desired in
JC> freeware substitutes, it should be remembered that this is the role of
JC> the OP, NOT the respondant. JunkMonkey's post damned near read like an
JC> advertisement for both programs.
??>> in one paragraph is just ridiculous. Me thinks, rules and regulations
??>> are more important than giving someone sound advice.
JC> Both you and Glenn are missing the point entirely. The name of this
JC> group is *ALT.COMP.FREEWARE*. Discussion of any other type of software
JC> in this group (unless when the OP is using it as an example of
JC> features desired in a freeware) simply clutters up the group and makes
JC> it unusable.
JC> If I came here looking for a freeware solution and somebody
JC> recommended a commercial program instead, I'd tell that individual to
JC> FOAD.
JC> Listen, this group has no charter and is unmoderated. Yep, you can
JC> talk about anything you like.... porn, gambling, warez, etc. However,
JC> don't expect to do so and not get flamed.
I am sorry, but I don't agree with you, period .....
V
Vic Dura
I don't know about the other two, but Panda Money is nowhere near
equivalent to Quicken.
C
Chrissy Cruiser
Sooooooooooooo? It was a good suggestion and didn't come with a ridiculous
lecture and a chorus of whines. Unlike damn near every whine-post you made
in this thread.
J
John Corliss
Glenn said:
Gee, I guess you showed me. All that name-calling really put me in my
place. And that second paragraph obviously is something that I have no
connection with (not.) It's also an obvious ploy to get me to discuss
commercial software, but that ain't gonna happen.
As I said, this group is named alt.comp.freeware and the topic for
discussion here is supposed to be freeware. How can you argue with that?
EOD.
J
John Corliss
galia said:
So... exactly what is it that you disagree *with*?
1. The fact that JunkMonkey was promoting commercial software (easily
proven)?
2. That this group has no charter and is unmoderated and that you'll
get flamed for talking about non-freeware?
3. That this group is named alt.comp.freeware and the subject for
discussion here is supposed to be freeware?
If not any of the above, then what?
J
John Corliss
And that's usually only when the OP does it.
I stand by my assertion that promoting commercial software in this
group is unacceptable. The name of the group is alt.comp.freeware and
the topic for discussion is supposed to be freeware.
Just WTF is that supposed to mean? Oh, that's right. It's simple trollage.
More of the same. And certainly makes absolutely no point whatsoever.
But then, what would one expect when you're obviously following the
directions given here:
http://home.online.no/~warnckew/jokes/troll-faq.html
Stop using sock puppets, troll. I'm tired of having to killfile them.
*PLOINK*
I stand by my assertion that promoting commercial software in this
group is unacceptable. The name of the group is alt.comp.freeware and
the topic for discussion is supposed to be freeware.
Just WTF is that supposed to mean? Oh, that's right. It's simple trollage.
More of the same. And certainly makes absolutely no point whatsoever.
But then, what would one expect when you're obviously following the
directions given here:
http://home.online.no/~warnckew/jokes/troll-faq.html
Stop using sock puppets, troll. I'm tired of having to killfile them.
*PLOINK*
J
John Corliss
Vic said:
Maybe not, but the OP could really help a lot by simply listing the
features he/she is looking for. Also, John H. listed Cash Manager 2.0
as well.
Look, it's obvious that no program is going to be totally identical to
another. That's obvious. If the OP had simply listed the features that
he/she found critical in such an application, perhaps none of this
flame ware would have occured because it's more likely that somebody
could have provided (a) freeware solution(s).
C
Chrissy Cruiser
Exactly what portion of the phrase"comparing freeware to commercial ware"
isn't about freeware?
It means you act like a child and when you get pressed inot a corner, you
swear like a moron then declare that it's all trolling. Repeating infantile
behavior patterns like that is one reason a lot of folks around here thnk
your diapers stink, Corliss.
Yep, definitely infantile, regressive and immature. Where's the
"I'm-going-to-have-the-last-word-like-a-petulant-child PLONK, Johnnie?
There it is.
G
galia
Hello, John!
You wrote on Fri, 06 Aug 2004 05:17:06 -0700:
??>>>> I agree with you Glenn. The whole argument about mentioning
??>>>> shareware
??>>
JC>>> The recommendation was for commercial software products, specifically
JC>>> Quicken and Microsoft Money, not a shareware product (although
JC>>> shareware is off topic here too.) And although at first glance it may
JC>>> appear that JunkMonkey was simply pointing out features desired in
JC>>> freeware substitutes, it should be remembered that this is the role
JC>>> of the OP, NOT the respondant. JunkMonkey's post damned near read
JC>>> like an advertisement for both programs.
??>>
??>>>> in one paragraph is just ridiculous. Me thinks, rules and
??>>>> regulations are more important than giving someone sound advice.
??>>
JC>>> Both you and Glenn are missing the point entirely. The name of this
JC>>> group is *ALT.COMP.FREEWARE*. Discussion of any other type of
JC>>> software in this group (unless when the OP is using it as an example
JC>>> of features desired in a freeware) simply clutters up the group and
JC>>> makes it unusable. If I came here looking for a freeware solution
JC>>> and somebody recommended a commercial program instead, I'd tell that
JC>>> individual to FOAD.
??>>
JC>>> Listen, this group has no charter and is unmoderated. Yep, you can
JC>>> talk about anything you like.... porn, gambling, warez, etc. However,
JC>>> don't expect to do so and not get flamed.
??>>
??>> I am sorry, but I don't agree with you, period .....
JC> So... exactly what is it that you disagree *with*?
JC> 1. The fact that JunkMonkey was promoting commercial software (easily
JC> proven)?
JunkMonkey gave the requesting poster all the facts he needed to know about
his request. That MS Money is the only equivalent to Quicken is a fact, and
was
therefore required to be mentioned. I am calling this sound advice...
JC> 2. That this group has no charter and is unmoderated and that you'll
JC> get flamed for talking about non-freeware?
So what? There are always people out to get you; they have nothing
better to do with their lives.
JC> 3. That this group is named alt.comp.freeware and the subject for
JC> discussion here is supposed to be freeware?
So when do you discuss freeware again, after you are finished flaming
everybody who doesn't agree with you?
JC> If not any of the above, then what?
In your small mindedness you are failing to see the bigger picture.
You wrote on Fri, 06 Aug 2004 05:17:06 -0700:
??>>>> I agree with you Glenn. The whole argument about mentioning
??>>>> shareware
??>>
JC>>> The recommendation was for commercial software products, specifically
JC>>> Quicken and Microsoft Money, not a shareware product (although
JC>>> shareware is off topic here too.) And although at first glance it may
JC>>> appear that JunkMonkey was simply pointing out features desired in
JC>>> freeware substitutes, it should be remembered that this is the role
JC>>> of the OP, NOT the respondant. JunkMonkey's post damned near read
JC>>> like an advertisement for both programs.
??>>
??>>>> in one paragraph is just ridiculous. Me thinks, rules and
??>>>> regulations are more important than giving someone sound advice.
??>>
JC>>> Both you and Glenn are missing the point entirely. The name of this
JC>>> group is *ALT.COMP.FREEWARE*. Discussion of any other type of
JC>>> software in this group (unless when the OP is using it as an example
JC>>> of features desired in a freeware) simply clutters up the group and
JC>>> makes it unusable. If I came here looking for a freeware solution
JC>>> and somebody recommended a commercial program instead, I'd tell that
JC>>> individual to FOAD.
??>>
JC>>> Listen, this group has no charter and is unmoderated. Yep, you can
JC>>> talk about anything you like.... porn, gambling, warez, etc. However,
JC>>> don't expect to do so and not get flamed.
??>>
??>> I am sorry, but I don't agree with you, period .....
JC> So... exactly what is it that you disagree *with*?
JC> 1. The fact that JunkMonkey was promoting commercial software (easily
JC> proven)?
JunkMonkey gave the requesting poster all the facts he needed to know about
his request. That MS Money is the only equivalent to Quicken is a fact, and
was
therefore required to be mentioned. I am calling this sound advice...
JC> 2. That this group has no charter and is unmoderated and that you'll
JC> get flamed for talking about non-freeware?
So what? There are always people out to get you; they have nothing
better to do with their lives.
JC> 3. That this group is named alt.comp.freeware and the subject for
JC> discussion here is supposed to be freeware?
So when do you discuss freeware again, after you are finished flaming
everybody who doesn't agree with you?
JC> If not any of the above, then what?
In your small mindedness you are failing to see the bigger picture.
B
Box134
Oh, is Corliss still around? I can't figure out how he gets that *PLOINK*
sound. Every time I killfile someone I get a *PLONK* instead.
sound. Every time I killfile someone I get a *PLONK* instead.
J
John Corliss
galia said:
I've been doing that all along, if you read the rest of this group.
More name calling. And YOU are the one failing to see the "bigger
picture".
J
John Corliss
Box134 said:
It's the sound a drip makes as it hits the toilet bowl....
B
bambam
I agree John, it is galia and others that fail to see the bigger
picture. Above all else the *freeware* part of this group must be
protected, otherwise what do we become?
I don't agree 100% with your freeware definition, but the differences
are small and as always open to civil discussion.
You do a mostly thankless job for this group, and I for one appreciate
it, cheers.
J
John Corliss
bambam said:I agree John, it is galia and others that fail to see the bigger
picture. Above all else the *freeware* part of this group must be
protected, otherwise what do we become?
I don't agree 100% with your freeware definition, but the differences
are small and as always open to civil discussion.
You do a mostly thankless job for this group, and I for one appreciate
it, cheers.
Thanks for the kind words, Garrett.
C
Chrissy Cruiser
Try shaking that little thing for more fun with toilet sounds.
J
John Corliss
galia said:
Welcome to my killfile.
*PLOINK*
G
galia
Kind, but wrong....John Corliss said:
B
bambam
Do I look like Garrett? He must be a handsome man. ;o)