A DEFINITION OF FREEWARE

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Dr. Homilete

Craig said:
Listen, Stud-muffin;

What's up with repeating other's posts? I thought you were above
plagiarism.

Who, Johnny Maharaj? *All* that he does is plagiarize! He does not
produce any original content, nor does he contribute meaningfully to any
discussion. He plays the role of Usenet arsonist, starting fires and
watching the fire-fighters struggle to extinguish his handiwork.
 
D

Dr. Homilete

Guns speak louder than words in Chitrakoot, where Lord Ram lived in
exile. Prime property in this Madhya Pradesh town, on the border of
Uttar Pradesh, costs Rs 30 lakh a bigha (8,000 sq. feet), much more than
in big cities in the state. Some 30 lakh pilgrims visit the 500 temples
and mutts here every year, filling their coffers with liberal offerings.
To safeguard their temporal powers, many sanyasis and priests carry
firearms; the district administration has issued more than 2,000 gun
licences in the last two years alone.

Shooting swamis (not flying ones), muscle power (not mind power) and
market logic (not maya)-these are the new traits of mystic India. In
Ayodhya, the birthplace of Lord Ram in Uttar Pradesh, where there are no
fewer than 8,000 mutts, 109 swamis stand accused of crimes ranging from
gun-running to murder. Sadhus in Amarkantak in Madhya Pradesh are
engaged in holy wars with one rival sect or the other to grab land.

It is in the name of God that Anoopdas Maharaj, mahant of Khaki Akhara
in Chitrakoot, carries a revolver and bullets round his waist. "What's
wrong, even Parasuram carried arms," he says, referring to the Brahmin
sage who avenged his father's slayers.

Puroshottam Narain Sharan, a doctor-turned-sadhu who has been in
Chitrakoot since 1978, says he would have no compunction in taking up
arms. "You have to protect your house from someone who enters it. It is
the same with ashrams," he says. "It is better that you protect it than
turn to the police."

The battle of sanyasis in Ayodhya caught national attention on May 29,
2001, with the attack on mahant Nritya Gopal Das, the deputy chief of
Ram Janmabhoomi Nyas, a trust for building the controversial Ram temple.
Das had apparently played an active role in removing Devramdas Vedanti
as mahant of the prestigious Ramvallabha Kunj temple and enthroning Ram
Shanker.

In 1998, saffron-clad sadhus opened fire on the residents of Guptar
Ghat, 10 km from Ayodhya, killing four. The sadhus, said to be the
disciples of Mohan Das alias Mauni Baba, mahant of Yagya Shala Ashram,
did it to scare local people away to grab land. In another gruesome
incident 10 years ago, the 70-year-old mahant of Jankighat temple was
strangled by three sadhus to gain control of the temple whose property
was worth Rs 15 crore.

Criminal swamis became a problem in Ayodhya three decades ago when
lawbreakers from Bihar and eastern Uttar Pradesh started taking shelter
in temples there to escape the police. One of them, Kamdev Singh, died
in a shootout with the police.

More at http://www.the-week.com/23jan19/cover.htm
 
D

Dr. Homilete

SURAT: A man who posed as ‘sadhu’ of a temple at Reliance Nagar at
Katargaam in Surat was arrested by the Bhavnagar police for allegedly
raping a minor girl and having sexual relationship with her elder
sister. The minor subsequently got pregnant.

The accused allegedly committed the act with the consent of the girl’s
parents, who were also arrested. The three were transferred to Surat
city police and a case was registered at Katargaam where the incident
had occurred. According to the police,Gopal Moradia,a diamond worker and
father of the two girls, had left her daughters in the custody of Himmat
Rajput (27), as an ‘offering’. The accused, Rajput, was a priest at
Reliance Nagar then. Police said residents had recently evicted Rajput
and the two girls from the colony as the suspected something fishy. The
three ran away to the residence of Moradia in Bhavnagar.

The police raided their house and arrested them. Police registered a
case against the ‘sadhu’ and an abettement to rape case against the
parents.
 
D

Dr. Homilete

A series of attacks took place between February 1998 and June 1999 in
the state of Maharashtra. On February 14, 1998, a hospital run by the
Catholic Hospital Association of India was attacked and ransacked,
allegedly by members of the RSS in Latur, Maharashtra. On October 16, a
prayer hall gathering in Kumbale village in Nasik was attacked. The
prayer house was also destroyed. On December 25, armed activists from
the Bajrang Dal accosted about 1,000 people attending a dance at the St.
Francis School in Borivill, Bombay. The assailants were arrested and
then released. In June 1999, the Shiv Sena launched a renewed series of
attacks against Christian mission-run kindergarten schools, allegedly
because they were not giving admission to the Shiv Sena activists'
children. On June 26, suspected Sena members vandalized the Sacred Heart
school in Worli, Bombay.152

A similar pattern developed in Uttar Pradesh. On September 23, 1998, the
same day four nuns were gang raped in Jhabua district, Madhya Pradesh
(see below), nuns in a Clarist convent in Bhagpat were attacked and
robbed. The next day, a group of men smashed the front door of the
F.C.C. Convent in Bhagpat, desecrated the chapel, assaulted several
nuns, and ransacked all their rooms and belongings. On September 26,
activists of the Hindu Jagran Manch, the Bajrang Dal and the Rana Tharu
Parishad broke into the Union Church in Amaun in Udham Singh Nagar
district. They placed an idol of the Hindu god Shiva in the church and
conducted prayers for two hours.
http://www.hrw.org/reports/1999/indiachr/christians8-05.htm
 
D

Dr. Homilete

Al said:
The only reason you can't post links to articles about Hindu religious
leaders raping young Hindu girls is that they all probably die soon
after complaining about being raped.

Actually, rapes are greatly underreported in India, primarily due to the
stigma attached to the victim. Another reason is likely the
unwillingness of the Indian media to expose sexual abuse by religious
leaders.

On the other hand:

Marfi, who runs the El Parador restaurant in the Pani Tanki district,
again surprised me by claiming to believe in the powers of sadhus. "I
have a friend whose sister was married and couldn't get pregnant and she
went to see a sadhu," he explained. "The naked sadhus are the most holy.
She paid him a lot of money and he hypnotized her, or something, as she
couldn't remember afterward. Anyway, she got pregnant and had a boy. Her
husband was really happy." Delicately, I asked if her husband minded her
going to see the sadhu. "Oh no. He was very happy. Lots of rich families
pay sadhus to help them when their wives can't have babies," he replied.
http://metropolis.japantoday.com/tokyo/410/travel.asp
 
J

John Corliss

Dr. Homilete said:
Who, Johnny Maharaj? *All* that he does is plagiarize! He does not
produce any original content, nor does he contribute meaningfully to any
discussion. He plays the role of Usenet arsonist, starting fires and
watching the fire-fighters struggle to extinguish his handiwork.

I don't know which group you will read, so I'm leaving all the
cross-posted group names in the header. Would you please be so kind as
to remove alt.comp.freeware from that list in your replies? Our group is
for the discussion of freeware, and it's being flooded with this off
topic discussion.

Thanks.

--
Regards from John Corliss
I don't reply to trolls like Andy Mabbett or Doc (who uses sock puppets)
for instance. No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware,
demoware, nagware, PROmotionware, shareware, spyware, time-limited
software, trialware, viruses or warez for me, please.
 
A

Al Klein

Marfi, who runs the El Parador restaurant in the Pani Tanki district,
again surprised me by claiming to believe in the powers of sadhus. "I
have a friend whose sister was married and couldn't get pregnant and she
went to see a sadhu," he explained. "The naked sadhus are the most holy.
She paid him a lot of money and he hypnotized her, or something, as she
couldn't remember afterward. Anyway, she got pregnant

I wonder if "or something" involved any sort of physical contact,
hmmm?
 
C

Craig

Al said:
I wonder if "or something" involved any sort of physical contact,
hmmm?

Al;

Would you please consider taking alt.comp.freeware off the disto for
this and related threads? And, if you're feeling generous, please
remove my unmunged email addy from the subject header.

When I incurred the wrath of baby "doc," he included it in a number of
the subject headers to which you now respond.

regards,
-Craig
 
J

John Jay Smith

there is no proof that our particular lineage of species existed so long ago
as you claim.
There might have been other humanoids, but what you say, is not based of
solid fact of science.
 
A

Al Klein

there is no proof that our particular lineage of species existed so long ago
as you claim.

Define "our lineage". The standard use of the term puts our ancestry
back at least 3.5 billion years.
There might have been other humanoids

I never said that Homo sapiens sapiens goes back any further than 120
ky. But Hss isn't the beginning of "our lineage", or our ancestry.
He's not even the beginning of anatomically modern man.
but what you say, is not based of solid fact of science.

It's based on science - the fact that it contradicts beliefs is of no
consequence.
 
H

harmony

In alt.comp.freeware,



Isn't the above useful material for Bush's speechwriters, especially
the language?

at freeware you get what you pay for. btw, is what's donated at freeware
tax deductible?
 
K

kiran parmar

I always wanted to read up on Indian History but never got the time.
This is a very good Timeline.
Thanks for this info.


Kiran Parmar
3~'
 
D

Daniel Mandic

Al said:
But someone (here in acf, I mean) is going to tell you that Home
heidelbergensis isn't our ancestor. :)



hmmm, I am a bit confused now. But I guess you wasn't.


Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic


P.S.: Who knows how our ancestors looked like, in the last 500.000,000
years. yes?
 
A

Al Klein

hmmm, I am a bit confused now. But I guess you wasn't.

Maybe if I had spelled 'Homo' correctly? ;)

I meant that there are some who think that Homo sapiens had no
non-Homo sapiens ancestors. I think you know what I mean.
P.S.: Who knows how our ancestors looked like, in the last 500.000,000
years. yes?

Direct ancestors? Not anywhere near that far back, of course.
Collateral ancestors? The Burgess Shale.
 

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