XP Workstation as Print Server

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Roberto

Robert said:
We are a small organization and there are 3 network printers.

We would like to use a windows XP workstation as a Print Server. There
are around 20 staff in our site. However, I learn that for XP, the
limitation is only 10 users.

I would like to know does it mean that we cannot use XP as Print Server in
our case ? OR It doesn't allow 10 users print to network printers at the
same time ?

Thanks

You may be confusing the fact that XP Home has limitations regarding
connections.

rgds
Roberto
 
R

Robert

We are a small organization and there are 3 network printers.

We would like to use a windows XP workstation as a Print Server. There are
around 20 staff in our site. However, I learn that for XP, the limitation
is only 10 users.

I would like to know does it mean that we cannot use XP as Print Server in
our case ? OR It doesn't allow 10 users print to network printers at the
same time ?

Thanks
 
R

Robert

In this way, there is no limitation to Windows XP Professional Workstation ?
If yes, then we don't need to worry about it.
 
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Robert

Dear Roberto,

I have searched the web again and find that from
http://technet2.microsoft.com/Windo...987e-4d32-9965-0227b89d42df1033.mspx?mfr=true
it mentions
A computer running Windows XP Professional can also function as a print
server but with some limitations; it cannot support Macintosh or NetWare
services, and it is limited to only 10 connections within the same local
area network (LAN).

I would like to know what is the meaning of only 10 connections ?

Thanks again
 
X

xfile

Hi,

May not relate directly to your question, but in our small company, we use
the following method which works well:

Connecting a printer with LAN port to the router so everyone can access and
use it. Using this method, however, everyone has to install printer's
software and driver.

We are using HP Photosmart 2xxx series. The advantages is no need to have
the machine is staying on for others to use. The disadvantage is that each
machine has to install software and driver and the initial configuration,
although not so difficult but would take a few minutes.

Hope this helps.
 
M

Manny Borges

All XP systems have a limit of 10 concurrent connections.

A connection is started when a user prints and will typically remain an
active connectio for up to 15 minutes after printing.

I would not bother setting up a system to function as your print server, you
can get a dedicated device to do this for cheap. I have several old intel
print server boxes picked up for about ten dollars each. They are too slow
for 400 page pdfs, but standard duty printing is not an issue.

What kind of printer are you using? Most workgroup class printers have
network add in cards abailable. In fact, you may have one already. In that
case setting it up as a local via IP ports would be perfect.
--
Manny Borges
MCSE NT4-2003 (+ Security)
MCT, Certified Cheese Master

There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who do understand binary
and those who don't.
 
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Malke

Robert said:
We are a small organization and there are 3 network printers.

We would like to use a windows XP workstation as a Print Server. There
are
around 20 staff in our site. However, I learn that for XP, the limitation
is only 10 users.

I would like to know does it mean that we cannot use XP as Print Server in
our case ? OR It doesn't allow 10 users print to network printers at the
same time ?

There are inbound concurrent connection limitations that will cause you
problems.

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=314882

concurrent connections:

5 for XP Home
10 for XP Pro/Tablet/MCE
49 for SBS 2000
74 for SBS 2003
Unlimited for full Server O/Ses

I'm not sure what you mean by "network printers" but I assume you mean there
are three printers attached locally to three computers on the network. With
such a small amount of printers, it would make far more sense to replace
them with true network printers attached directly to the network via
ethernet. Or buy some print servers and use your current printers with
them. Here's an example of that:

http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/SubCategory.asp?SubCategory=387

Malke
 
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HeyBub

Robert said:
We are a small organization and there are 3 network printers.

We would like to use a windows XP workstation as a Print Server. There are
around 20 staff in our site. However, I learn that for XP,
the limitation is only 10 users.

I would like to know does it mean that we cannot use XP as Print
Server in our case ? OR It doesn't allow 10 users print to network
printers at the same time ?

Thanks

Ten concurrent users. When one drops off, another can connect. There are
other solutions, however:

Get a real print-server and connect it to the network. Here's over 800 of
them:
http://search.ebay.com/print-server

This fix may remove the limitation:
http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=1497
 
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Bruce Chambers

Roberto said:
You may be confusing the fact that XP Home has limitations regarding
connections.


No, he's confusing nothing. WinXP Pro is limited to ten simultaneous
connections. (WinXP Home is limited to 5.)


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R

Robert

The printers do have network card attached and is connected to the network.

Some network fellow says that by using print server, it will reduce the
additional work to install printer drive on the users' machines.

Robert
 
M

Malke

Robert said:
The printers do have network card attached and is connected to the
network.

Some network fellow says that by using print server, it will reduce the
additional work to install printer drive on the users' machines.

This is ridiculous. You already have network printers that are working and
everyone can print to and you want to change this because "some network
fellow" said so? I don't suppose the "some network fellow" sells print
servers and wants to set them up for you?

Leave well enough alone.

Malke
 
S

Steve N.

xfile said:
Hi,

May not relate directly to your question, but in our small company, we use
the following method which works well:

Connecting a printer with LAN port to the router so everyone can access and
use it. Using this method, however, everyone has to install printer's
software and driver.

Printer drivers still have to be installed on each machine no matter what.

Steve N.
 
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Robert

Dear Steve,

The network fellow says that if print server is used, the printer drive will
be downloaded automatically (Instead of installing manually).

Robert
 
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Malke

Robert said:
Dear Steve,

The network fellow says that if print server is used, the printer drive
will be downloaded automatically (Instead of installing manually).

hahahahaha

You are only talking about 20 computers! You don't even have a domain (which
is foolish if you really have 20 computers, but that would mean buying a
server operating system).

Listen, you've already gotten advice about this. If you really have that
much money burning a hole in your pocket, donate it to charity instead.

You need a new "network fellow".

Malke
 
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Steve N.

Robert said:
Dear Steve,

The network fellow says that if print server is used, the printer drive will
be downloaded automatically (Instead of installing manually).

Robert

He's talking about an iPrint (or equiv.) service. Malke is right, for a
network of only 20 PCs this is not a cost effective solution. It takes
about 2 minutes to install a printer driver manually. For a much larger
network requiring other services that a file server would host, iPrint
service would make sense. Just because something is possible doesn't
mean it is automatically a good idea.

Steve N.
 
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xfile

Hi,

Truly, fire your network staff, find a competent one that won't complicate a
simple task just to show he/she is knowledgeable.

Adopt some experts' advises here (not including me, of course), and test and
implement it, and at the mean time, find someone who will think the other
way - making a simple solution for complicated issues , not vice versa.

It's not easy but that's the only way for preventing people BS you, and
that's what I have been doing (with little choice).
 

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