xp upgrade or xp full

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Guest

I have a 166 pentium mmx 128MB windows '98 system that I am upgrading.
The upgrade includes new case, motherboard, CPU, graphics and sound cards
but I shall be using my old HDD.
Is it better to install '98 on my new system and then use windows XP upgrade
, or install full windows XP version from the outset?
 
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Andre Da Costa

You don't have to purchase the full version, go ahead and purchase the
upgrade, during installation, it will ask you for Windows 98 as proof that
you have previous version of Windows. But make sure 98 is not installed on
the old computer, because the 98 full version is the basis for the
installation of XP Upgrade which is not full license.

But if you plan on keeping the old machine with 98 on it, I recommend you
get the full version of XP Pro.

See link:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/upgrading/default.mspx

Andre
 
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sig666

malken said:
I have a 166 pentium mmx 128MB windows '98 system that I am upgrading.
The upgrade includes new case, motherboard, CPU, graphics and sound cards
but I shall be using my old HDD.
Is it better to install '98 on my new system and then use windows XP upgrade
, or install full windows XP version from the outset?
You can do a clean install with an xp upgrade CD ROM. It will ask you
for your windows 98 CD for verification that you can use the upgrade CD.
 
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Guest

You can't install Windows XP upgrad or full on a Pentium 166.
# Pentium 233 MHz or faster processor
# For PCs without Microsoft Windows or PCs with Windows 95 or earlier
# 128 MB RAM
# 1.5 GB hard disk space
# CD-ROM or DVD drive
 
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Ken Blake

In
malken said:
I have a 166 pentium mmx 128MB windows '98 system that I am
upgrading.
The upgrade includes new case, motherboard, CPU, graphics and
sound
cards but I shall be using my old HDD.
Is it better to install '98 on my new system and then use
windows XP
upgrade , or install full windows XP version from the outset?



First of all, realize that you don't have to buy a copy of the
Full version of XP just to do a clean installation.
The requirement to use an upgrade version is to *own* a previous
qualifying version's installation CD (with an OEM restore CD, see
below), not to have it installed. When setup doesn't find a
previous qualifying version installed, it will prompt you to
insert its CD as proof of ownership. Just insert the previous
version's CD, and follow the prompts. Everything proceeds quite
normally and quite legitimately.



You can also do a clean install if you have an OEM restore CD of
a previous qualifying version. It's more complicated, but it
*can* be done. First restore from the Restore CD. Then run the XP
upgrade CD from within that restored system, and change from
Upgrade to New Install. When it asks where, press Esc to delete
the partition and start over.



Second, although many people will tell you that formatting and
installing cleanly is the best way to go, I disagree. Unlike with
previous versions of Windows, an upgrade to XP replaces almost
everything, and usually works very well.



My recommendation is to at least try the upgrade, since it's much
easier than a clean installation. You can always change your mind
and reinstall cleanly if problems develop.



However, don't assume that doing an upgrade relieves you of the
need to backup your data, etc. before beginning. Before starting
to upgrade, it's always prudent to recognize that things like a
sudden power loss can occur in the middle of it and cause the
loss of everything. For that reason you should make sure you have
backups and anything else you need to reinstall if the worst
happens.
 
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Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers

Um Chuck? He's upgrading the system.....

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
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Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers

Hi,

Upgrade, and do so immediately after completing the rebuild. It should see
the Win98 installation and will replace it and reconfigure to the new
hardware.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
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Tom

Ken Blake said:
Everything proceeds quite
normally and quite legitimately.

Is it legitmate since the only component he is keeping from the original hardware setup is the HDD? Doesn't the 98 disk die with that system if it is an OEM in the way he wants to upgrade?

Obviously, if the 98 disk is retail, there are no question, it is totally within the EULA to do what he wants to do.
<snipped>
 
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Kelly

Hi,

You may also want to up from 128 to at least 256. As for upgrades from
Win98, I have never had an issue doing so. And would argue the differences
claimed by others that a clean install is the way to go. :blush:)

Once your system is built, try the XP readiness Test:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_setup.htm

Hope all goes well for you.





Ken Blake said:
Everything proceeds quite
normally and quite legitimately.

Is it legitmate since the only component he is keeping from the original
hardware setup is the HDD? Doesn't the 98 disk die with that system if it is
an OEM in the way he wants to upgrade?

Obviously, if the 98 disk is retail, there are no question, it is totally
within the EULA to do what he wants to do.
<snipped>
 
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RobertVA

From what I gather Microsoft is pretty vauge about what it accepts as
the hardware that qualifies as considering such a major upgrade as the
"same computer". That doesn't prevent the OEM for the original
configuration from adding stricter requirements through printed EULAs or
equipment verification code that runs during installation or Windows
startup. I gather some OEMs are pretty lenient about what constitutes
the hardware required to permit a new OEM version license puchase too.
My Windows XP Home Edition OEM license was only a few dozen US dollars
more expensive than an Upgrade package.

I don't know how tolerant Microsoft's code would be if the operating
system finds the remnents of the various driver and configuration
settings from the old CPU, video card and motherboard.
 
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Bruce Chambers

malken said:
I have a 166 pentium mmx 128MB windows '98 system that I am
upgrading.
The upgrade includes new case, motherboard, CPU, graphics and sound
cards but I shall be using my old HDD.
Is it better to install '98 on my new system and then use windows XP
upgrade , or install full windows XP version from the outset?


If you have a retail license for Win98, you can get by with
purchasing and using the WinXP Upgrade on the new computer. If,
however, the Win98 installation on the original computer is an OEM
license (i.e., it came factory-installed), you'll need to purchase a
full version of WinXP, as the OEM Win98 is not transferable to a new
computer and therefore cannot be used as a qualifying product for an
upgrade on the new computer.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



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having
both at once. - RAH
 
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Ken Blake

In
Tom said:
Is it legitmate since the only component he is keeping from the
original hardware setup is the HDD? Doesn't the 98 disk die
with that
system if it is an OEM in the way he wants to upgrade?


First, there was no suggestion in his message that Windows 98 was
OEM. Second, if it is OEM, Microsoft has never defined what
constitutes a new system as opposed to the old one.
 
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Alex Nichol

malken said:
I have a 166 pentium mmx 128MB windows '98 system that I am upgrading.
The upgrade includes new case, motherboard, CPU, graphics and sound cards
but I shall be using my old HDD.
Is it better to install '98 on my new system and then use windows XP upgrade
, or install full windows XP version from the outset?

On that CPU and RAM stay with Win98. It is not enough to work in the
least usefully with XP
 

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