Upgrade from XP to Win7 - Do I need full version or just upgradeedition?

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Neil H

I cannot find anything on the Microsoft site that addresses my question
so I am hoping you can help or point me in the right direction. I am
running XP Home and it is an Upgrade edition. The DVD is labeled
"Upgrade" and when I have used it to install or reinstall XP it always
asks me to insert the original Windows disk, I guess to verify that I
once purchased a full version. The full version I have is Millennium
and the XP install has always asked for and recognized that disk and
once inserted and validated, the XP installation proceeds to completion.

So my question is, with this history of Windows versions can I install
the upgrade version of Win7 or am I going to have to buy a new full
original version of Win7? It is obviously a question of $$.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Neil
 
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JS

You can buy the Windows 7 upgrade version.
But you will not be asked to insert the Windows XP CD
as was the case previously. Windows 7 expects to see
Windows XP already installed on your hard drive and
will not in fact "upgrade XP", instead it will a clean install
of Windows 7 and all your installed software (at least any
that will work/run in Windows 7 must be re-installed.
 
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JS

You can buy the Windows 7 upgrade version.
But you will not be asked to insert the Windows XP CD
as was the case previously. Windows 7 expects to see
Windows XP already installed on your hard drive and
will not in fact "upgrade XP", instead it will a clean install
of Windows 7 and all your installed software (at least any
that will work/run in Windows 7 must be re-installed.

In addition your XP product key will be retired and no
longer usable.
 
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JS

You can buy the Windows 7 upgrade version.
But you will not be asked to insert the Windows XP CD
as was the case previously. Windows 7 expects to see
Windows XP already installed on your hard drive and
will not in fact "upgrade XP", instead it will a clean install
of Windows 7 and all your installed software (at least any
that will work/run in Windows 7 must be re-installed.

In addition your XP product key will be retired and no
longer usable.
 
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BillW50

In R. McCarty typed on Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:41:00 -0400:
Your version history should still allow you to purchase/use a
upgrade version of Windows Seven. The difference is that the
validation isn't Windows install disk based. The upgrade will
actually depend on finding an active/running version of the
qualifying product to begin the upgrade process. Windows 7
cannot directly upgrade Windows XP. It requires a clean or
fresh install even though the upgrade process is started from
within the older Operating System.

Before upgrading you'll want to image your existing setup.
This is required so if you have to re-install at some point you'll
have the qualifying product to start from.
Click to expand...

What R. McCarty and JS didn't mention is if you can install Windows 7 in
another partition and leave your original Windows XP alone?
 
I

Ian D

Neil H said:
I cannot find anything on the Microsoft site that addresses my question so
I am hoping you can help or point me in the right direction. I am running
XP Home and it is an Upgrade edition. The DVD is labeled "Upgrade" and
when I have used it to install or reinstall XP it always asks me to insert
the original Windows disk, I guess to verify that I once purchased a full
version. The full version I have is Millennium and the XP install has
always asked for and recognized that disk and once inserted and validated,
the XP installation proceeds to completion.

So my question is, with this history of Windows versions can I install the
upgrade version of Win7 or am I going to have to buy a new full original
version of Win7? It is obviously a question of $$.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Neil
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It's the same as Vista. To upgrade from XP to Win 7, using a Win 7
upgrade version, XP must already be installed. The upgrade is
started by booting the Win 7 DVD, not from running XP. The
caveat is that Win 7 will not do an on-top upgrade. It must be a
clean install. You have two choices, install Win 7 in the XP partition,
which will wipe XP, or install it on another partition or disk, which
will allow you to do create a dual boot configuration with XP.

There's a workaround that allows a Vista upgrade edition to be
installed, using itself as qualifying OS. MS probably closed this
loophole with Win 7, but that remains to be determined.
 
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JS

BillW50 said:
In R. McCarty typed on Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:41:00 -0400:

What R. McCarty and JS didn't mention is if you can install Windows 7 in
another partition and leave your original Windows XP alone?
Click to expand...

I didn't mention it because after a conversation
with MS Marketing the overriding answer was
always "your XP keycode is no longer valid" both
from a EULA/Legal standpoint and from a practical
standpoint, marketing even indicated that a Phone
activation of XP will not work.

As to the final proof of this, I don't think anybody
will really know until the upgrade DVD is available
and someone tries to keep their copy of XP active.

Also sorry for the multiple post but something happened
and my first reply was sent before I completed it and without
my knowing it, the second attempt got stuck in the OE outbox
and ....
 
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db

what you should highly consider is to
either partition your drive for the exclusive
install of W7 or add a hard disk for the
same purposes.

you wouldn't want to take any chances
with W7 overwriting or deleting the
data that you have at this time.

-----------

yet there is another method which is
to install virtual pc in you current o.s.
and then install W7 in virtual PC.

however, there is a caveat which is
it all depends on what your needs are
and if your current system is not limited
by hard ware.

perhaps it would be safe to say that
if your current system requires hard ware
upgrading to run vista,

then it will also apply for W7.

then there is that one little oversight that
many people forget which is that there will
be programs and peripheral devices like
some printers and specialty cards in your
mother board slots, if any, that will become
incompatible with the newer o.s.


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Ian D

JS said:
I didn't mention it because after a conversation
with MS Marketing the overriding answer was
always "your XP keycode is no longer valid" both
from a EULA/Legal standpoint and from a practical
standpoint, marketing even indicated that a Phone
activation of XP will not work.

As to the final proof of this, I don't think anybody
will really know until the upgrade DVD is available
and someone tries to keep their copy of XP active.

Also sorry for the multiple post but something happened
and my first reply was sent before I completed it and without
my knowing it, the second attempt got stuck in the OE outbox
and ....
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That was also said before Vista's release. If Win 7 does a clean
install over XP with a reformat, there will be no XP product key
available for Win 7 to phone home with. In the extreme, Win 7
could create a small hidden partition to store the XP product key
in, but I don't think this would go over well. Remember Sony's
root kits.

If someone with no internet connection does the upgrade and
activates by phone, how does the XP product key get deactivated?
Then there are the OEM PCs with BIOS locked XP installs that
don't require activation. Also, an XP product key can be changed
after XP's activated. It's not fully enforceable.
 
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~~Alan~~

M/S recently announced a "student" rate on Windows 7 (I do not recall what
version, pro, ultimate, etc) for about $30.00. You have to buy it online
and use a valid email address ending with .edu.

~alan
 
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JessicaD42

'Neil H[_2_ said:
;3343083']I cannot find anything on the Microsoft site that addresses m
question
so I am hoping you can help or point me in the right direction. I am
running XP Home and it is an Upgrade edition. The DVD is labeled
"Upgrade" and when I have used it to install or reinstall XP it alway

asks me to insert the original Windows disk, I guess to verify that I
once purchased a full version. The full version I have is Millennium
and the XP install has always asked for and recognized that disk and
once inserted and validated, the XP installation proceeds t
completion.

So my question is, with this history of Windows versions can I instal

the upgrade version of Win7 or am I going to have to buy a new full
original version of Win7? It is obviously a question of $$.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Neil
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Neil H,

The Windows 7 upgrade disk upgrades a full version of Windows XP o
Windows Vista. For more information, see the Windows 7 Pre-Order offe
page he http://tinyurl.com/nldc8p

Also, if you are currently a student you may qualify for the $3
upgrade to Windows 7. For more information, please go h
http://tinyurl.com/m7nyxa

Jessica
Microsoft Windows Client Tea
 
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BillW50

In JessicaD42 typed on Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:08:07 +0100:
Neil H,

The Windows 7 upgrade disk upgrades a full version of Windows XP or
Windows Vista. For more information, see the Windows 7 Pre-Order offer
page he http://tinyurl.com/nldc8p

Also, if you are currently a student you may qualify for the $30
upgrade to Windows 7. For more information, please go he
http://tinyurl.com/m7nyxa

Jessica
Microsoft Windows Client Team
Click to expand...

Do you work for Microsoft Jessica?
 
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Al

Neil - Windows XP cannot be upgraded to Windows 7 - it must be a clean
install, however the XP data, files and application settings (not
applications themselves) can be migrated to Win 7 by use of the windows file
and settings wizard or user state migration tool (USMT).
 

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