XP, TCPIP, NETBEUI, DIAL UP - Cant see the world

[James W. Long]

Hi All:

I have a client side problem.

Windows XP does not come installed with NETBEUI.
BUT if you get it off the CD you can install it anyway.

We did this on an XP computer. Then things happened to it.

This XP computer is part of a share access lan with no
DNS server specified or running. We are running
NETBIOS over TCPIP and NETBEUI on all three computers.

The other two computers are win98SE systems.
All the systems use linksys wireless ethernet cards.
NETBEUI is selected as the default protocol on the win98se
systems. There is no such checkbox on XP, but I "believe"
NETBEUI is also the default protocol there.

Running NETBEUI is fast (faster than tcpip) and the shares come up
faster in network neighborhood and my network places.
So we like this and would _like_ to keep it if possible.
(but I will do anything that works).

The XP system has an AOL dialup.

Now the problem occurs after I installed NETBEUI to the XP
computer with the aol dialup.

When I dial to aol, I can get around in aol but I can no longer
get to any domain outside of aol, such as microsoft.com.

BEFORE I installed NETBEUI, I could get around in aol
and outside of AOL, anyplace on the internet.

I can install a previous restore point (backup)on the XP
computer BEFORE netbeui was ever installed.
Then, browsing AOL and outside of AOL to other domains works again!


I "believe" XP does not handle NETBEUI properly as it used to on w95 and
w98.

I "believe" that NETBEUI is binding itself to the DIALUP adapter.
Is that possible? how do I tell? how do I configure it not to?

I "believe" NETBEUI is selected as the Default protocol for
the dialup adapter. I'm hoping fixing the above problem fixes this.

Does anyone know how to fix this?

Thank you
James Long

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Hi All:

I have a client side problem.

Windows XP does not come installed with NETBEUI.
BUT if you get it off the CD you can install it anyway.

We did this on an XP computer. Then things happened to it.

This XP computer is part of a share access lan with no
DNS server specified or running. We are running
NETBIOS over TCPIP and NETBEUI on all three computers.

The other two computers are win98SE systems.
All the systems use linksys wireless ethernet cards.
NETBEUI is selected as the default protocol on the win98se
systems. There is no such checkbox on XP, but I "believe"
NETBEUI is also the default protocol there.

Running NETBEUI is fast (faster than tcpip) and the shares come up
faster in network neighborhood and my network places.
So we like this and would _like_ to keep it if possible.
(but I will do anything that works).

The XP system has an AOL dialup.

Now the problem occurs after I installed NETBEUI to the XP
computer with the aol dialup.

When I dial to aol, I can get around in aol but I can no longer
get to any domain outside of aol, such as microsoft.com.

BEFORE I installed NETBEUI, I could get around in aol
and outside of AOL, anyplace on the internet.

I can install a previous restore point (backup)on the XP
computer BEFORE netbeui was ever installed.
Then, browsing AOL and outside of AOL to other domains works again!


I "believe" XP does not handle NETBEUI properly as it used to on w95 and
w98.

I "believe" that NETBEUI is binding itself to the DIALUP adapter.
Is that possible? how do I tell? how do I configure it not to?

I "believe" NETBEUI is selected as the Default protocol for
the dialup adapter. I'm hoping fixing the above problem fixes this.

Does anyone know how to fix this?

Thank you
James Long

NetBEUI is an un-supported protocol in Windows XP. That means that
Microsoft hasn't tested it extensively and won't give technical
support with it. I doubt that they've tested it at all with recent
versions of AOL.

By design, NetBEUI can't be bound to a standard Windows XP dial-up
connection. However, AOL's software creates a non-standard dial-up
connection. It doesn't let you access the connection's properties to
control protocol bindings.

I'd contact AOL for help with this problem. They're the ones who know
how their software works.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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