XP Sucks! (I want my Mulit session back)

[Paul Mars]

I have had multi session (Explorer drag and drop) CDRWs since 1995 in win95.

Also worked in win98.

Drag and Drop multi session has always worked. I treat the disk as another
HDD when copying files.

Now when I first got XP Pro, it tried to manage this by taking my drag and
dropped files and making a "files to be copied" list. If I then told it to
make the d--- CD, it copied to the CD and closed the CD for good. Result was
NO multi session. Damn I love love ms.

Well, somehow I got that turned off and all has been well for awhile now.
Yesterday, I accidentally clicked on the empty CDRW drive instead of the
loaded CD and I saw a list of files and a caption: "Files ready to be
written to the CD". These r the files in My Documents. If I delete them from
the empty CD, they get deleted from My Documents. WHY, WHY, WHY

What can I do? Why does ms do things like this?

 

[Guest]

You can cheat it with a packet writing program like Roxio
Direct CD (comes with Easy CD Creator ) Or Nero
InCD or DLA You then use a CD ( will not Span cd's) or
DVD's (4.7+ gb) to back up too.

http://www.sonic.com/products/dla/features.asp

 

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I have had multi session (Explorer drag and drop) CDRWs since 1995 in
win95.

Also worked in win98.

Drag and Drop multi session has always worked. I treat the disk as
another HDD when copying files.

Now when I first got XP Pro, it tried to manage this by taking my
drag and dropped files and making a "files to be copied" list. If I
then told it to make the d--- CD, it copied to the CD and closed the
CD for good. Result was NO multi session. Damn I love love ms.

Well, somehow I got that turned off and all has been well for awhile
now. Yesterday, I accidentally clicked on the empty CDRW drive
instead of the loaded CD and I saw a list of files and a caption:
"Files ready to be written to the CD". These r the files in My
Documents. If I delete them from the empty CD, they get deleted from
My Documents. WHY, WHY, WHY

What can I do? Why does ms do things like this?

So you'll have a reason to upgrade to their next peice of sh*t OS, that
will be touted as ther best OS ever, just like they claimed with all
their previous OSs.

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[buttplug]

-----Original Message-----
I have had multi session (Explorer drag and drop) CDRWs since 1995 in win95.

Also worked in win98.

Drag and Drop multi session has always worked. I treat the disk as another
HDD when copying files.

Now when I first got XP Pro, it tried to manage this by taking my drag and
dropped files and making a "files to be copied" list. If I then told it to
make the d--- CD, it copied to the CD and closed the CD for good. Result was
NO multi session. Damn I love love ms.

Well, somehow I got that turned off and all has been well for awhile now.
Yesterday, I accidentally clicked on the empty CDRW drive instead of the
loaded CD and I saw a list of files and a caption: "Files ready to be
written to the CD". These r the files in My Documents. If I delete them from
the empty CD, they get deleted from My Documents. WHY, WHY, WHY

What can I do? Why does ms do things like this?

Because M$ has sh## for products! When you consider the
security problems with the Windows O/S, this should be one
of yuour last worries!

Bill Gates has a severe case of cranial-rectal inversion
(otherwise he would use me), henceforth people like us get
stiffed!

 

[Michael Stevens]

I have had multi session (Explorer drag and drop) CDRWs since 1995 in
win95.

Also worked in win98.

Drag and Drop multi session has always worked. I treat the disk as
another HDD when copying files.

Now when I first got XP Pro, it tried to manage this by taking my
drag and dropped files and making a "files to be copied" list. If I
then told it to make the d--- CD, it copied to the CD and closed the
CD for good. Result was NO multi session. Damn I love love ms.

Well, somehow I got that turned off and all has been well for awhile
now. Yesterday, I accidentally clicked on the empty CDRW drive
instead of the loaded CD and I saw a list of files and a caption:
"Files ready to be written to the CD". These r the files in My
Documents. If I delete them from the empty CD, they get deleted from
My Documents. WHY, WHY, WHY

What can I do? Why does ms do things like this?

If you could drag and drop and write multi-session CD's you had third party
burning software installed with your previous Windows. If you install third
party burning software you will again have this capability. XP is the first
Windows OS to have any kind of built in burning ability and the native
application will write multi-session data CD's, but will close all
multimedia CD's to further sessions.
Try Roxio, Ahead, NTI, Padus, etc. for burning software with more advanced
features.
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Computer links.
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[Paul Mars]

I have Roxio with win95, win98 and now with xp. How else could I use a CRDW
in win95/98??

this contradicts: "will write multi-session data CD's, but will close all

 

[Paul Mars]

I have Roxio with win95, win98 and now with xp. How else could I use a CRDW
in win95/98??

 

[Michael Stevens]

answered in line.

I have Roxio with win95, win98 and now with xp.

What version do you have installed with XP? Roxio wrote the native
application, but it is for basic burning. You can't do packet writing, copy
CD's, and much more.

How else could I use a CRDW in win95/98??

With Nero, DLA, NTI, Padus, and other third party burning applications. No
burning applications were included with 95 and 98.

this contradicts: "will write multi-session data CD's, but will
close all

What is contradictory? The native XP burning application will do the above.
You can save data files to a CD until it is full, but if you add a music or
video file, the CD will be closed to further sessions.

Check out the link below, it should give you some insight to CD burning with
XP.
http://www.aumha.org/a/xpcd.htm
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[Paul Mars]

Roxio w/win95:
drag and drop mulit session, CD copying, CD creation.
Ditto for win98.
Ditto for xp, after I stopped xp from interfering, which it is now doing
again.
Roxie Easy CD Creator ver 5, which includes CD Copier(ver 5.3.5.10),
DirectCD(drag ad drop, no ver listed), and Easy CD Creator(ver 5.3.5.10).
Stripped down ver that comes free with a burner for win95/98 and xp.

....No burning applications were included with 95 and 98.
I KNOW THIS.

....What is contradictory? The native XP burning application will do the
above.

You can save data files to a CD until it is full, but if you add a music or
video file, the CD will be closed to further sessions.

TWICE when I tried this, it closed the CD for good. There may be a wav or
jpg file when I do this, maybe not. I expect multi session to be multi
session, not only if there r no mixed media...

from that page:
Because of this method of writing, the files cannot be individually changed
or deleted. If on a CD-RW disk, they can only be erased as a whole. The ISO
file system is mostly used, therefore, with CD-R media.
MY FIRST unit used on win95/98 was a CDRWusing ISO format and I could delete
individual files that were written the same time as other files not being
deleted from CDR disk. I remember this clearly, back then CDR disks were $3
and CDRW disks were $15. Back then closing a disks cost 33meg ,and reopening
it costs 15meg, subsequent closures cost 10 meg. Now, I do not need to
re-open a closed disk. All is getting better with improving technology,
until ms sticks their fat deformed finger in.

Therefore, such a CD is described as behaving as a "giant floppy" (or very
slow, small hard disk). When UDF is implemented, files can be dragged and
dropped to and from the CD in Windows Explorer, just as to and from a hard
disk; or, to give another example, the CD can be selected as the drive to
use in a "Save As" dialog in a program.
EXACTLY what I had and want again.

The UDF file system was often used in earlier versions of Windows through th
ird party packages such as Direct CD.
WHY "was" ??? My Direct CD now, not was, just NOW uses UDF and can drag and
drop, when xp is properly tied up or locked in the basement. But xp escaped
and is interfering again.

If you install any of these packages, the inbuilt burning software probably
will be disabled, and you should use the associated "mastering" program
instead. If the native software is not disabled automatically, you should
disable it manually. (See Section 6 immediately below.)
SECTION 6 and 7 r not telling me how to do this, or m I just not
understanding??

 

[Michael Stevens]

Roxio w/win95:
drag and drop mulit session, CD copying, CD creation.
Ditto for win98.
Ditto for xp, after I stopped xp from interfering, which it is now
doing again.
Roxie Easy CD Creator ver 5, which includes CD Copier(ver 5.3.5.10),
DirectCD(drag ad drop, no ver listed), and Easy CD Creator(ver
5.3.5.10). Stripped down ver that comes free with a burner for
win95/98 and xp.

...No burning applications were included with 95 and 98.
I KNOW THIS.

...What is contradictory? The native XP burning application will do
the above.
TWICE when I tried this, it closed the CD for good. There may be a
wav or jpg file when I do this, maybe not. I expect multi session to
be multi session, not only if there r no mixed media...

from that page:
Because of this method of writing, the files cannot be individually
changed or deleted. If on a CD-RW disk, they can only be erased as a
whole. The ISO file system is mostly used, therefore, with CD-R media.
MY FIRST unit used on win95/98 was a CDRWusing ISO format and I could
delete individual files that were written the same time as other
files not being deleted from CDR disk. I remember this clearly, back
then CDR disks were $3 and CDRW disks were $15. Back then closing a
disks cost 33meg ,and reopening it costs 15meg, subsequent closures
cost 10 meg. Now, I do not need to re-open a closed disk. All is
getting better with improving technology, until ms sticks their fat
deformed finger in.

Therefore, such a CD is described as behaving as a "giant floppy" (or
very slow, small hard disk). When UDF is implemented, files can be
dragged and dropped to and from the CD in Windows Explorer, just as
to and from a hard disk; or, to give another example, the CD can be
selected as the drive to use in a "Save As" dialog in a program.
EXACTLY what I had and want again.

The UDF file system was often used in earlier versions of Windows
through th ird party packages such as Direct CD.
WHY "was" ??? My Direct CD now, not was, just NOW uses UDF and can
drag and drop, when xp is properly tied up or locked in the basement.
But xp escaped and is interfering again.

If you install any of these packages, the inbuilt burning software
probably will be disabled, and you should use the associated
"mastering" program instead. If the native software is not disabled
automatically, you should disable it manually. (See Section 6
immediately below.)
SECTION 6 and 7 r not telling me how to do this, or m I just not
understanding??

To disable the native burning software, right click on the drive and select
the Recording tab. You can disable it from there.
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[Paul Mars]

ref: >

To disable the native burning software, right click on the drive and select
the Recording tab. You can disable it from there.
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Someother site said that this will disable any and all CD writting, but I
can try. I do not think that is what I did before.

 

[Michael Stevens]

ref: >

Someother site said that this will disable any and all CD writting,
but I can try. I do not think that is what I did before.

I believe you have all the information you need to sort out your CD burning
objective.
Good luck, and in the future, perhaps you should research your computing
upgrades before jumping into an unknown.

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[Paul Mars]

ref: "and in the future, perhaps you should research your computing
upgrades before jumping into an unknown"

yea right. Is there really a list of ALL, read that ALL the nitty gritty
differences between 98 and xp, I don't think so.

p