xp service pack 2 a dud

[john]

i have installed service pack 2 on 3 pc's i have and all
have had the same problem with the sp2, they randomly
reboot once in a while for no apparent reason. I have
remove that bad service pack 2 of microsofts on 2 pc's
and find i have no more problems with those 2 pc's but
the 3rd still has service pack 2 on it and has the same
problem too, does anyone out there experience this same
problem? service pack 2 also affects my game too
(diablo2) when i sit a char still in one spot too long it
goes weird colors and pixilated for no reason. have tried
different drivers but to no avail. all is well with the 2
pc's that i removed the SP2 on. still considering
removing the SP2 from 3rd pc and never installing it till
microsoft fix the bad bugs in it.

 

[Jeff]

your going to have to wait a long time then. As for this
being a dud, I have had no problems with it on 130
computers. 128 are work computers and 2 are my personal
computers. I have no problem playing Eve Online,
EverQuest, Civ 3 Conquest, Masters of Orion 3, Simcity 4,
have had no problems with my NSW 2004, MS Office 2003
Enterprise, Easy CD creater 6.0 plat, Alcohol 120%, and
other programs on my two XP-Pro SP2 systems. All the work
computers I have installed it on works with no problems
with the various application programs they have.

Did you properly prepare the computers prior to installing
SP2? Did you look at the advice posted here by many MVP`s
on how to properly prepare the computer? Did you do a
complete spyware check using several checker programs?
Did you do a few virus scans, using your software one and
online one? Did you disable the AV, virtual drives and
other background programs prior to installing? Did you do
a check disk and defrag, delete all temp internet files,
cookies, delete any quarentine items from the AV? There
are many steps to properly prepare the computer for SP2,
if you didn`t do any or even half of these things, your
sure to have a bad install.

Jeff

 

[Guest]

This shows just how brilliant Microsoft really is...
SP2 was a spontaneous update for me (Windows Update got it and I wasn't even
aware of it till install), and I don't recall any forewarnings before the
installation.
And yeah... I had to completely reinstall my OS, thanks to SP2.

 

[Rock]

This shows just how brilliant Microsoft really is...
SP2 was a spontaneous update for me (Windows Update got it and I wasn't even
aware of it till install), and I don't recall any forewarnings before the
installation.
And yeah... I had to completely reinstall my OS, thanks to SP2.

You had to accept the EULA to install so you were aware of it.

 

[titancom]

Jeff yes to all the above, do you actually read all the
problems that SP2 is causing people???? maybe you are
one of the lucky few to have a good run with it but most
people in this forum and that i know have a big variety
of issues with it. my opinion is that it was released
with to many bugs in it for the genral population and
variety of hardware setups!

 

[Rock]

Jeff yes to all the above, do you actually read all the
problems that SP2 is causing people???? maybe you are
one of the lucky few to have a good run with it but most
people in this forum and that i know have a big variety
of issues with it. my opinion is that it was released
with to many bugs in it for the genral population and
variety of hardware setups!

The upgrade goes just fine for the vast majority of users, especially if
the system is properly prepared. You have the distribution reversed.
Some are having problems, yes, but most do not, or the issues they have
are minor and easily resolved by program and firewall settings. The
biggest obstacle to a good upgrade is a system that is having problems
prior to the upgrade -- be it due to malware or any other issue. If
it's not running in top shape you can have problems.

 

[Jone Doe]

I suspect you are the type that would hang around a service department at a
Ford dealership and then post that Fords are crap because you saw so many
needing to be repaired.

SP2 was beta tested for a very long time.

It has no bugs.

 

[JerryMouse]

Jeff yes to all the above, do you actually read all the
problems that SP2 is causing people???? maybe you are
one of the lucky few to have a good run with it but most
people in this forum and that i know have a big variety
of issues with it. my opinion is that it was released
with to many bugs in it for the genral population and
variety of hardware setups!

Maybe 100 people have posted here reporting a problem.

Out of 60 million, 100 is not even noise.

 

[Don Taylor]

I suspect you are the type that would hang around a service department at a
Ford dealership and then post that Fords are crap because you saw so many
needing to be repaired.

SP2 was beta tested for a very long time.

It has no bugs.

I'll bet you enough money that you are wrong
that it will likely completely ruin the looser.

Let's do it. Say $100,000 and a loaded pistol.
No bugs in SP2 and you win, bugs in SP2 and I win?
We meet up and the winner takes everything on the table.

You ought to jump at this, being informed and all.
Of course, you are refuting everything everyone has
seen in a half a century's experience with software.
But put up your money and let's do it.

 

[Ken Blake]

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Jeff yes to all the above, do you actually read all the
problems that SP2 is causing people???? maybe you are
one of the lucky few to have a good run with it but most
people in this forum and that i know have a big variety
of issues with it. my opinion is that it was released
with to many bugs in it for the genral population and
variety of hardware setups!

Whenever a new version of *anything* comes out, you always read
about people having problems." But realize two things:

1. If you're reading about problems *in the newsgroup*, this
where people come with their problems, not with their successes.
You get a very distorted view of what's going on in the real
world here; as someone once said, "hang around a transmission
shop and you will think that all cars have transmission
problems."

2. Most problems, by far, that people report--whether or not they
are SP2-related--have nothing to do with defects in the software.
They result from people's ignorance, from bad or inadequate
hardware, from old drivers, from viruses, from spyware, and so
on. And except for very rare situations, they always get a fix
for their problems, and in most cases, that fix is a very simple
one to implement.

 

[Ken Blake]

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SP2 was beta tested for a very long time.

It has no bugs.

As much as I agree that SP2 is a very stable release with few
problems, the above statement is a considerable overstatement.
All software, except for the trivial, has bugs.

Good software has only minor bugs--bugs that are not severe in
their impact, that don't show up often, that don't affect most
people. But bug-free software, again except for the trivial, is
an impossibility.

 

[Guest]

What about all of the ppl having problems who don't know about this forum?

 

[Ken Blake]

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What about all of the ppl having problems who don't know about
this
forum?

There are undoubtedly some. I don't claim that nobody has
problems. But I've personally installed SP2 on several machines
and I know many others who have installed it, in some cases on
*many* machines. In all those many cases, I know of one problem
that *may* have been caused by SP2 (and it's not confirmed that
it's an SP2 problem).

My conclusion is that a tiny percentage of those who have
installed it have problems as a result, and the vast majority of
those caused the problem themselves, for example by not removing
spyware first.