XP pro retail - anyone with this CD can help?

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Geoffw

just purchased this new retail box version but have a
concern about it being legal?

It is version 2002 service pack 2

went to howtotell and it looks very good except for 3 points

there is a mark on the copper tone CD that appears to have
scratched off - is the tone embeded in the CD?

the copper tone CD does not have a lot of colour as it is
moved in the light?

The CD itseldf in the top left corner has the "for
distribution with a new CD only": warning. I owuld have
htought that this would not be on a retail CD?

Other then send it to MS for verification how can I work out
if it is counterfeit or not. I have not installed yet and if
I do what would be the sign that it is counterfeit?

thanks

Geoff
 
Hi Geoff!! The only way to find out if it is legal is to install the software
and run the necessary updates. The Windows validate software should be
included in the Windows Update.
 
Geoffw said:
just purchased this new retail box version but have a
concern about it being legal?

It is version 2002 service pack 2

went to howtotell and it looks very good except for 3 points

there is a mark on the copper tone CD that appears to have
scratched off - is the tone embeded in the CD?

the copper tone CD does not have a lot of colour as it is
moved in the light?

The CD itseldf in the top left corner has the "for
distribution with a new CD only": warning. I owuld have
htought that this would not be on a retail CD?

Other then send it to MS for verification how can I work out
if it is counterfeit or not. I have not installed yet and if
I do what would be the sign that it is counterfeit?

thanks

Geoff
If the disk has the "for distribution with a new PC only" warning, you
have an OEM disk, not a retail version. It may still, work, though,
provided you have a legitimate Key. As another person said, the only way
to know (without sending the CD to Microsoft), is to install the thing.
 
Geoffw said:
just purchased this new retail box version but have a
concern about it being legal?

It is version 2002 service pack 2

went to howtotell and it looks very good except for 3 points

there is a mark on the copper tone CD that appears to have
scratched off - is the tone embeded in the CD?

the copper tone CD does not have a lot of colour as it is
moved in the light?

The CD itseldf in the top left corner has the "for
distribution with a new CD only": warning. I owuld have
htought that this would not be on a retail CD?

Other then send it to MS for verification how can I work out
if it is counterfeit or not. I have not installed yet and if
I do what would be the sign that it is counterfeit?

thanks

Geoff

From where was it bought? Looks very suspicious for a re-packaged OEM
version of Windows XP. One more indicator: Is the COA (Certificate of
Authenticity) enclosed as a label that is supposed to be stuck on to
the computer case or is the Product Key printed on an orange label?
 
Mistoffolees said:
From where was it bought? Looks very suspicious for a re-packaged OEM
version of Windows XP. One more indicator: Is the COA (Certificate of
Authenticity) enclosed as a label that is supposed to be stuck on to
the computer case or is the Product Key printed on an
orange label?

thanks

CoA is printed on to the "retail box"

Product key is a label attached to the CD holder inside the
box.

The retail key supplied is registering as invalid, tried an
oem key and this also failed, tried a corporate key and this
is acceptable (but not the one from the box)

Reading the install error it appears that the install is
actually asking for a volume licence key.

Looks very dodgy to me
 
thanks

CoA is printed on to the "retail box"

Product key is a label attached to the CD holder inside the
box.

The retail key supplied is registering as invalid, tried an
oem key and this also failed, tried a corporate key and this
is acceptable (but not the one from the box)

Reading the install error it appears that the install is
actually asking for a volume licence key.

Looks very dodgy to me
 
just purchased this new retail box version but have a
concern about it being legal?

It is version 2002 service pack 2

went to howtotell and it looks very good except for 3 points

there is a mark on the copper tone CD that appears to have
scratched off - is the tone embeded in the CD?

Tone? What do you mean?
If you mean the scratched-off parts from the COA (the Certificate of
Authenticity sticker), that is supposed to be there.

If it is in surface of the disk itself, then obviously, it has been
tampered with, and will NOT be able to be used to install your software,
since that spot would be a HUGE error on the disk surface.
the copper tone CD does not have a lot of colour as it is
moved in the light?

True "Retail" copies have at least two VERY distinctive features:
1) The holograms are ALWAYS extremely colorful, and EMBEDDED into the Disk
itself.
2) The COA (Certificate of Authenticity) is ALWAYS on the BOX itself, and
NOT a small sticker. If your COA (the part which contains your
installation code -- 5 groups of 5 alphanumeric characters) is NOT on the
top of the box, it is obviously NOT an authentic Microsoft "Retail"
product.
The CD itself in the top left corner has the "for
distribution with a new CD only": warning. I owuld have
htought that this would not be on a retail CD

You thought correctly. This is NOT a "Retail" kit.
However, ALL OEM kits MUST carry this warning ON THE CD.
If YOUR CD has this warning, it is obviously NOT a Retail kit. It is an
OEM kit.

Other then send it to MS for verification how can I work out
if it is counterfeit or not. I have not installed yet and if
I do what would be the sign that it is counterfeit?

thanks

Geoff

1) ANY Windows install disk which says "For distribution with a new PC
only" is NOT a "Retail" copy. It is an OEM copy.

2) If you received it in a "RETAIL box" from Microsoft (Blue for Pro,
Green for Home), and the CD STILL has "For Distribution with a new PC
only" on it, it has obviously been re-packed to LOOK like a "Retail" kit.

3) If it was NOT distributed in a professionally-printed card-board box
(or plastic box with the original versions), it is obviously NOT a "Retail
Kit", it is an OEM kit.

I suspect that you got a pirated version from the Soviet Union or
elsewhere in the Third-World. Did you by chance purchase this for an
EXTREMELY low price, such as $50? Let's face it, few (if any) dealers are
going to take a HUGE LOSS just to sell you a Retail copy of XP, no matter
WHERE they're from.

In which case, I strongly advise you to:
First, report the retailer to Microsoft (http://www.microsoft.com/piracy)
Second, return it to the retailer and DEMAND an authentic copy. If he
refuses, report him to your State Attorney-General's office.

If you get no satisfaction from the retailer, Microsoft may still replace
the disk with a proper one for a nominal price, however. Speak to their
Support department.

Donald L McDaniel
Please reply to the original thread and newsgroup
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thanks

CoA is printed on to the "retail box"

NOTE that the Retail COA is NOT "printed on the top of the Retail box". It
is a STICKER glued there.
Product key is a label attached to the CD holder inside the
box.

The retail key supplied is registering as invalid, tried an
oem key and this also failed, tried a corporate key and this
is acceptable (but not the one from the box)

Sounds like the "Devil's Own" hack packed in a "retail box".
This counterfeit requires a Volume License key.
Reading the install error it appears that the install is
actually asking for a volume licence key.

Looks very dodgy to me

Donald L McDaniel
Please reply to the original thread and newsgroup
===========================================================
 
2) The COA (Certificate of Authenticity) is ALWAYS on the BOX itself, and
NOT a small sticker. If your COA (the part which contains your
installation code -- 5 groups of 5 alphanumeric characters) is NOT on the
top of the box, it is obviously NOT an authentic Microsoft "Retail"
product.

Hi Donald

The COA, at least for my UK version, is on top of the box but doesn't
contain the installation code. That's on the Product Key sticker
attached to the back of the orange folder inside.

If it was on the outside all a pirate need do is visit the local
software shop with a notepad and pen :-)
 

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