XP Pro or Home

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AMC

I'm looking to move all my home PC's to XP. I see many genuine versions on
sale on Ebay with COA etc but the Pro versions seem to be available cheaper
tham Home...maybe just greater volumes hence supply and demand. As a home
user is there any drawback to getting the Pro version even if I dont need
all the extras ?

Thanks
 
A

AMC

Sorry, meant to ask one other thing. If I go for Home Edition, I run ME at
the moment and could get the Upgrade version. Is it worth paying more and
getting the full version?

Thanks
 
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Ken Blake

In
AMC said:
I'm looking to move all my home PC's to XP. I see many genuine
versions on sale on Ebay with COA etc but the Pro versions seem
to be
available cheaper tham Home...maybe just greater volumes hence
supply
and demand. As a home user is there any drawback to getting
the Pro
version even if I dont need all the extras ?


No, there's no drawback at all. But if the price is that low,
I'd be concerned that you might not be actually getting a full
legal copy.
 
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Ken Blake

In
AMC said:
Sorry, meant to ask one other thing. If I go for Home Edition,
I run
ME at the moment and could get the Upgrade version. Is it
worth
paying more and getting the full version?


No. The Full and Upgrade versions are identical as far as the
software they contain.

The only difference between the two is in the rules for how they
can be installed. Both can do either a clean installation or an
upgrade. However, if you do a clean installation with an Upgrade
version, you have to provide proof that you own a previous
qualifying version (Me will do) by inserting its CD when prompted
to do so.
 
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Guest

I would not recommend trying to do ANYTHING with Windows ME! I have not
heard anything positive about that OS for conversion. I would say that
you'll have a MUCH better time with XP Pro (especially if it's cheaper) and
getting RID of WinME! It's not supported anymore, or I think it's not. I
would upgrade to a full version and use the File and Transfer Wizard to move
all your files over. Get a crossover cable and or use CD's or any way to
move data from one location to the next.
There are some drawbacks to using Home edition with XP but not with Pro!
Pro is more robust and functional, where Home is a bit watered down, still
secure and powerful, but not totally responsive if you're trying to do
everything that the O.S. will let you!
Hope this helps.

Matt
 
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Yves Leclerc

Beware of anny/all software sold on XP. Check the reputation of the seller
first.

Windows XP Pro sold on eBay are usually the OEM versions which are to be
installed on a specify PC. You may get one that will not allow you to
install it onto yours, since it may not be the one the software CD was made
for. Also, it has been told that there are a lot of fake CDs/COA keys sold
and some have found there way onto eBay.
 
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Ken Blake

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Matt Carter said:
I would not recommend trying to do ANYTHING with Windows ME!


He didn't suggest doing anything with Me. He wants to upgrade
from it to XP.

I have
not heard anything positive about that OS for conversion.


If you're trying to say he should do a clean installation instead
of an upgrade, I thoroughly disagree. Unlike with previous
versions of Windows, an upgrade to XP replaces almost everything,
and usually works very well.
My recommendation is to at least try the upgrade, since it's much
easier than a clean installation. He can always change his mind
and reinstall cleanly if problems develop.


I would
say that you'll have a MUCH better time with XP Pro (especially
if
it's cheaper) and getting RID of WinME! It's not supported
anymore,
or I think it's not. I would upgrade to a full version


He should *not* get the Fullversion. He owns Me and therefore
qualifies to use the Upgrade version. Buying a Full version when
you qualify for the Upgrade is simply a waste of money. They are
identical except that the Upgrade requires ownership of a
previous version. Even if does a clean installation instead of an
upgrade, it isn't necessary for him to waste the money for a Full
version.

and use the
File and Transfer Wizard to move all your files over. Get a
crossover cable and or use CD's or any way to move data from
one
location to the next.
There are some drawbacks to using Home edition with XP but not
with
Pro! Pro is more robust and functional, where Home is a bit
watered
down, still secure and powerful, but not totally responsive if
you're
trying to do everything that the O.S. will let you!


Sorry, that too is wrong. XP Professional is no more robust than
Home. In fact, XP Professional and XP Home are exactly the same
in all respects, except that Professional has a few features
(mostly related to networking and security) missing from Home.
For most (but not all) home users, these features aren't needed,
would never be used, and buying Professional instead of Home is a
waste of money.
For details go to

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_home_pro.asp

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/whichxp.asp

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/choosing2.asp

Also note that Professional allows ten concurrent network
connections, and Home only five.
 
V

Vagabond Software

AMC said:
I'm looking to move all my home PC's to XP. I see many genuine versions on
sale on Ebay with COA etc but the Pro versions seem to be available cheaper
tham Home...maybe just greater volumes hence supply and demand. As a home
user is there any drawback to getting the Pro version even if I dont need
all the extras ?

Thanks

Don't even bother with XP Home Edition. I'm not even sure why it exists. Always get the XP Pro version if at all possible.

Regarding the EBay sales, just make sure you aren't being sold an Academic version. Here is a sample description from one of the EBay items:

"These are new, sealed academic-priced upgrade versions in the retail Microsoft box."

That's not at all what you want unless you currently qualify for Academic pricing.

Also, get the upgrade if you have the original Windows ME media.

carl
 
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Ron Martell

Vagabond Software said:
Don't even bother with XP Home Edition. I'm not even sure why it exists. Always get the XP Pro version if at all possible.

Why? There is zero difference in performance, stability, or
compatibility (hardware or software) between Home and Pro. The only
differences are in certain functions and features that are found only
in XP Pro. For the most part these are items (such as logging onto a
Windows Server Domain) that are useful only in a large corporate or
government environment.

Unless there is a current or anticipated future need for at least one
of the functions or features that are found only in XP Pro there no
reason for or benefit in acquiring the Pro version.


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."
 
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Vagabond Software

Ron Martell said:
Why? There is zero difference in performance, stability, or
compatibility (hardware or software) between Home and Pro. The only
differences are in certain functions and features that are found only
in XP Pro. For the most part these are items (such as logging onto a
Windows Server Domain) that are useful only in a large corporate or
government environment.

Unless there is a current or anticipated future need for at least one
of the functions or features that are found only in XP Pro there no
reason for or benefit in acquiring the Pro version.


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada

Why do the poor Home Edition users have to use cacls.exe from the command-line to change file and folder permissions or access the System Volume Information while Windows 2000 and XP Pro users can use a GUI tool?

Also, joining a domain is not just for big corporations. I have a domain here in my home with just three users and two computers. In addition to using it for professional purposes, the domain security policies protect me from two other non-domain computers that are used for file-swapping, web-gaming, and other high-risk practices. I may not fair so well against the various viruses those two computers have picked up over the years with simple file sharing and blank administrator passwords.

Realistically, Windows XP Home Edition is a crippled version of Windows 2000 with a new Media Player and CD burning functionality thrown in for giggles. Like I said, I would never bother with Home Edition unless I just couldn't possibly afford the extra dollars for even an OEM upgrade version of Pro.

carl
 
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Raymond J. Johnson Jr.

Always get the XP Pro version if at all possible.
Why? There is zero difference in performance, stability, or
compatibility (hardware or software) between Home and Pro. The only
differences are in certain functions and features that are found only
in XP Pro. For the most part these are items (such as logging onto a
Windows Server Domain) that are useful only in a large corporate or
government environment.

Unless there is a current or anticipated future need for at least one
of the functions or features that are found only in XP Pro there no
reason for or benefit in acquiring the Pro version.


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada

Why do the poor Home Edition users have to use cacls.exe from the
command-line to change file and folder permissions or access the System
Volume Information while Windows 2000 and XP Pro users can use a GUI tool?

Also, joining a domain is not just for big corporations. I have a domain
here in my home with just three users and two computers. In addition to
using it for professional purposes, the domain security policies protect me
from two other non-domain computers that are used for file-swapping,
web-gaming, and other high-risk practices. I may not fair so well against
the various viruses those two computers have picked up over the years with
simple file sharing and blank administrator passwords.

Realistically, Windows XP Home Edition is a crippled version of Windows 2000
with a new Media Player and CD burning functionality thrown in for giggles.
Like I said, I would never bother with Home Edition unless I just couldn't
possibly afford the extra dollars for even an OEM upgrade version of Pro.

carl

I'm a "poor Home Edition user" who has never had occasion to use cacls.exe
under any circumstances in 3 years of XP use. Initiating a domain for a
home network and buying a more expensive version of the OS in order to
protect yourself against (presumably) your own family is a personal problem
and has nothing to do with the general question of Pro vs. Home for most
home users. I have never had any use for the extra features of Pro, and I
think I speak for most home users. To suggest that XP is just "a crippled
version of 2000" both ignorant and irresponsible.
 
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Vagabond Software

Raymond J. Johnson Jr. said:
Always get the XP Pro version if at all possible.

Why do the poor Home Edition users have to use cacls.exe from the
command-line to change file and folder permissions or access the System
Volume Information while Windows 2000 and XP Pro users can use a GUI tool?

Also, joining a domain is not just for big corporations. I have a domain
here in my home with just three users and two computers. In addition to
using it for professional purposes, the domain security policies protect me
from two other non-domain computers that are used for file-swapping,
web-gaming, and other high-risk practices. I may not fair so well against
the various viruses those two computers have picked up over the years with
simple file sharing and blank administrator passwords.

Realistically, Windows XP Home Edition is a crippled version of Windows 2000
with a new Media Player and CD burning functionality thrown in for giggles.
Like I said, I would never bother with Home Edition unless I just couldn't
possibly afford the extra dollars for even an OEM upgrade version of Pro.

carl

I'm a "poor Home Edition user" who has never had occasion to use cacls.exe
under any circumstances in 3 years of XP use. Initiating a domain for a
home network and buying a more expensive version of the OS in order to
protect yourself against (presumably) your own family is a personal problem
and has nothing to do with the general question of Pro vs. Home for most
home users. I have never had any use for the extra features of Pro, and I
think I speak for most home users. To suggest that XP is just "a crippled
version of 2000" both ignorant and irresponsible.


Fine, I'm wrong about Home Edition and accept that you have never had a use for any of the features that Microsoft must have had to explicitly cut out of NT in creating a "Home Edition", and I even like the fast user switching which Home Edition offers.

However, I still believe things like NT Backup, a Remote Desktop host, and File-Level access control should not have been stripped out of the Home Edition. Also, as far as protecting my data from my "family", there are many many owners that prevent their family members, including themselves, from logging on to the computer with Administrative privileges.

If you don't use any of that and never will, then you certainly don't need to pay for it. I stand corrected.

carl
 
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Raymond J. Johnson Jr.

Raymond J. Johnson Jr. said:
Always get the XP Pro version if at all possible.

Why do the poor Home Edition users have to use cacls.exe from the
command-line to change file and folder permissions or access the System
Volume Information while Windows 2000 and XP Pro users can use a GUI tool?

Also, joining a domain is not just for big corporations. I have a domain
here in my home with just three users and two computers. In addition to
using it for professional purposes, the domain security policies protect me
from two other non-domain computers that are used for file-swapping,
web-gaming, and other high-risk practices. I may not fair so well against
the various viruses those two computers have picked up over the years with
simple file sharing and blank administrator passwords.

Realistically, Windows XP Home Edition is a crippled version of Windows 2000
with a new Media Player and CD burning functionality thrown in for giggles.
Like I said, I would never bother with Home Edition unless I just couldn't
possibly afford the extra dollars for even an OEM upgrade version of Pro.

carl

I'm a "poor Home Edition user" who has never had occasion to use cacls.exe
under any circumstances in 3 years of XP use. Initiating a domain for a
home network and buying a more expensive version of the OS in order to
protect yourself against (presumably) your own family is a personal problem
and has nothing to do with the general question of Pro vs. Home for most
home users. I have never had any use for the extra features of Pro, and I
think I speak for most home users. To suggest that XP is just "a crippled
version of 2000" both ignorant and irresponsible.


Fine, I'm wrong about Home Edition and accept that you have never had a use
for any of the features that Microsoft must have had to explicitly cut out
of NT in creating a "Home Edition", and I even like the fast user switching
which Home Edition offers.

However, I still believe things like NT Backup, a Remote Desktop host, and
File-Level access control should not have been stripped out of the Home
Edition. Also, as far as protecting my data from my "family", there are
many many owners that prevent their family members, including themselves,
from logging on to the computer with Administrative privileges.

If you don't use any of that and never will, then you certainly don't need
to pay for it. I stand corrected.

carl

What it boils down to is the MS marketing strategy for XP. If they were to
have produced only a single version (Pro) as with 2000, a lot of home users
might have felt intimidated. On the other hand, had they marketed XP as an
"all-in-one" solution, commercial users would feel shortchanged. Also, it's
an excellent way to charge more money for essentially no investment; once
Pro had been produced it had to have actually cost *more* to develop the
Home version. The difference between Home and Pro is found money for MS.
And if you feel that Pro suits your needs better than Home, you pays your
money and takes your choice, as they say.
 
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Alex Nichol

AMC said:
I'm looking to move all my home PC's to XP. I see many genuine versions on
sale on Ebay with COA etc but the Pro versions seem to be available cheaper
tham Home...maybe just greater volumes hence supply and demand. As a home
user is there any drawback to getting the Pro version even if I dont need
all the extras ?

Be very wary of Pro versions in particular being sold on eBay. At best
they will be probably be OEM versions, and may not have licenses still
available for use (an OEM cannot be installed to any machine other than
the first one) and may be out and out scams.
 
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Ken Blake

In
Raymond J. Johnson Jr. said:
Always get the XP Pro version if at all possible.
Why do the poor Home Edition users have to use cacls.exe from
the
command-line to change file and folder permissions or access
the
System Volume Information while Windows 2000 and XP Pro users
can use
a GUI tool?

Also, joining a domain is not just for big corporations. I
have a
domain here in my home with just three users and two computers.


If you have a domain, then *you* need XP Professional; the
enormous majority of home users don't. Similarly, you may want to
change file and folder permissions, but the enormous majority of
home users don't.

The point is not that the extra features in Professional are
useless. Neither is it the point that no home user needs or wants
any of the extra features. The point is that, for the vast
majority of home users, these extra features aren't needed,
aren't wanted, and would never be used.

For *some* users, XP Professional is best, but for *most* home
users, it has zero benefit over XP Home, and for them, following
your advice "Don't even bother with XP Home Edition. I'm not
even sure why it exists. Always get the XP Pro version if at all
possible" would do nothing but cause them to waste their money.
 
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Guest

I am asking this question from a slightly different perspective. I am a
tester and wants to test a graphics software in XP Home in my organisation.
But, unfortunately, we are unable to get XP Home CD immediately. Can we
safely (how much safe are we - 80%, 90%??) assume that testing on XP
Professional will be sufficient?

Thanks,
 

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