XP Pro not accessible from any other machine

[LaManchaDQ]

I have a home network with 1 XP Pro, 2 XP Home, 1 Win 2000 and 1 MAC OS X
machines. (Lets not deal with the MAC right now)

The Pro machine can see all the other windows machines and acccess their
shares.

All the other Windows machines can SEE the XP computer and ping it. None of
them can access the XP's shares.

The workgroup is the same for all the computers
There are password protected accounts of the same name on all the machines
The guest account is turned on on all the XP machines
File sharing is turned on for all machines
There is no third party firewall program present
Windows firewall (on the machines that have XP) is configures to allow file
sharing
The computer names are all different and are under 8 characters

When I try to connect to the Pro machine from one of the Home machines the
Windows login box opens with the username box greyed out but showing
Guest/ComputerName in the user name box. The password box is empty and I
leave it empty and press OK to login. The only thing to happen is that the
login box just re-appears. It may be interesting to note that the MAC is a
little more informative. When I try to connect to the Pro machine from the
MAC the log of that attemp shows that the "server" denied access.

What else is there to check/change?

 

[Chuck]

I have a home network with 1 XP Pro, 2 XP Home, 1 Win 2000 and 1 MAC OS X
machines. (Lets not deal with the MAC right now)

The Pro machine can see all the other windows machines and acccess their
shares.

All the other Windows machines can SEE the XP computer and ping it. None of
them can access the XP's shares.

The workgroup is the same for all the computers
There are password protected accounts of the same name on all the machines
The guest account is turned on on all the XP machines
File sharing is turned on for all machines
There is no third party firewall program present
Windows firewall (on the machines that have XP) is configures to allow file
sharing
The computer names are all different and are under 8 characters

When I try to connect to the Pro machine from one of the Home machines the
Windows login box opens with the username box greyed out but showing
Guest/ComputerName in the user name box. The password box is empty and I
leave it empty and press OK to login. The only thing to happen is that the
login box just re-appears. It may be interesting to note that the MAC is a
little more informative. When I try to connect to the Pro machine from the
MAC the log of that attemp shows that the "server" denied access.

What else is there to check/change?

How did you turn on the Guest accounts? Did you synchronise the passwords too?

On any XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With XP Home
and Pro on the LAN together, you need to have SFS enabled on each Pro computer.

On XP Home, and on XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that the
Guest account is enabled, on each computer. Enable Guest, with Start - Run -
"cmd", then type "net user guest /active:yes" in the command window. Ensure
that the password for Guest on each is blank, with Start - Run - "control
userpasswords2"; select Guest, click Reset Password, click OK without entering a
new password.

Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF / WF, or third party)? If
so, you need to configure them for file sharing. Firewall configurations are a
very common cause of (network) browser, and file sharing, problems.

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.

 

[Chuck]

I have a home network with 1 XP Pro, 2 XP Home, 1 Win 2000 and 1 MAC OS X
machines. (Lets not deal with the MAC right now)

The Pro machine can see all the other windows machines and acccess their
shares.

All the other Windows machines can SEE the XP computer and ping it. None of
them can access the XP's shares.

The workgroup is the same for all the computers
There are password protected accounts of the same name on all the machines
The guest account is turned on on all the XP machines
File sharing is turned on for all machines
There is no third party firewall program present
Windows firewall (on the machines that have XP) is configures to allow file
sharing
The computer names are all different and are under 8 characters

When I try to connect to the Pro machine from one of the Home machines the
Windows login box opens with the username box greyed out but showing
Guest/ComputerName in the user name box. The password box is empty and I
leave it empty and press OK to login. The only thing to happen is that the
login box just re-appears. It may be interesting to note that the MAC is a
little more informative. When I try to connect to the Pro machine from the
MAC the log of that attemp shows that the "server" denied access.

What else is there to check/change?

How did you turn on the Guest accounts? Did you synchronise the passwords too?
Did you check your Local Security Policy in XP Pro?

On any XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With XP Home
and Pro on the LAN together, you need to have SFS enabled on each Pro computer.

On XP Home, and on XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that the
Guest account is enabled, on each computer. Enable Guest, with Start - Run -
"cmd", then type "net user guest /active:yes" in the command window. Ensure
that the password for Guest on each is blank, with Start - Run - "control
userpasswords2"; select Guest, click Reset Password, click OK without entering a
new password.

On XP Pro, if you're going to use Guest authentication, check your Local
Security Policy (Control Panel - Administrative Tools) - User Rights Assignment,
and look at "Deny access to this computer from the network". Make sure Guest is
not in the list. Look at "Access this computer from the network", and make sure
that Everyone is in this list.

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net

 

[LaManchaDQ]

How did you turn on the Guest accounts? Did you synchronise the passwords
too?
Did you check your Local Security Policy in XP Pro?

On any XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control
Panel -
Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With
XP Home
and Pro on the LAN together, you need to have SFS enabled on each Pro
computer.

On XP Home, and on XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that
the
Guest account is enabled, on each computer. Enable Guest, with Start -
Run -
"cmd", then type "net user guest /active:yes" in the command window.
Ensure
that the password for Guest on each is blank, with Start - Run - "control
userpasswords2"; select Guest, click Reset Password, click OK without
entering a
new password.

On XP Pro, if you're going to use Guest authentication, check your Local
Security Policy (Control Panel - Administrative Tools) - User Rights
Assignment,
and look at "Deny access to this computer from the network". Make sure
Guest is
not in the list. Look at "Access this computer from the network", and
make sure
that Everyone is in this list.

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net

Chuck,

Many Thanks!! I worked on this all day and went to all the recommended
sites - tweaks, hints, tips, the best and the most talked about sites. No
one but you gave me what I needed. Somehow 'Everyone' was missing from the
authorized logins and all I had to fix things was putting that group back
in. I'm a logical thinker and that wasn't logical to me. So its good to
hear from someone that really knows how MS does things.

Thank again and

Cheers right back at ya. I hope that I can do something for you some day.

Doug
AT DOT
LaManchaDQ Comcast net

 

[Chuck]

Chuck,

Many Thanks!! I worked on this all day and went to all the recommended
sites - tweaks, hints, tips, the best and the most talked about sites. No
one but you gave me what I needed. Somehow 'Everyone' was missing from the
authorized logins and all I had to fix things was putting that group back
in. I'm a logical thinker and that wasn't logical to me. So its good to
hear from someone that really knows how MS does things.

Thank again and

Cheers right back at ya. I hope that I can do something for you some day.

Doug
AT DOT
LaManchaDQ Comcast net

Doug,

Kewl. Thanks for the update. It's the littlest detail sometimes, isn't it?

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.

 

[LaManchaDQ]

Doug,

Kewl. Thanks for the update. It's the littlest detail sometimes, isn't
it?

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.

Chuck,

I've been following the thread called "Internet Access but no Network"
because the browstat results I have are providing some interesting results.

If I boot my Mac (running OS X 10.3.8) first then my Windows machines
report:
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: ??????
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 53
Unable to determine server information for browser master: 123
1 backup servers retrieved from master ??????
\\XXXXXXXXXXX
Unable to retrieve server list from ??????: 2351

If I boot the Windows machine first then Browstat gives me the proper server
names for potential backup and master servers. It also correctly identifies
the version of the build.

Have you any idea why, what I assume is Unix, retuns this ( ??????)
gibberish and therefore messing up the network browser? If so can I fix it?

Thanks for your insights.

 

[Chuck]

Chuck,

I've been following the thread called "Internet Access but no Network"
because the browstat results I have are providing some interesting results.

If I boot my Mac (running OS X 10.3.8) first then my Windows machines
report:
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: ??????
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 53
Unable to determine server information for browser master: 123
1 backup servers retrieved from master ??????
\\XXXXXXXXXXX
Unable to retrieve server list from ??????: 2351

If I boot the Windows machine first then Browstat gives me the proper server
names for potential backup and master servers. It also correctly identifies
the version of the build.

Have you any idea why, what I assume is Unix, retuns this ( ??????)
gibberish and therefore messing up the network browser? If so can I fix it?

Thanks for your insights.

Now that is an interesting situation. I did some Googling and got no ideas.

I see you've posted in alt.comp.macintosh, did you try comp.sys.macintosh too?
The news servers that I subscribe to have such short retention periods, I don't
see too much history in either of those groups. I Googled those groups, too, not
much there either.

I did see some vague references to something called "Finder" on Apple computers,
which might be some counterpart to the NT Browser. See if you can find a switch
for "Finder" on your Mac, and see if Finder can be disabled. It's a long shot
but it beats having to reboot your Mac each time you boot the Windows computer
IMHO.

Does your Mac need any network resources, other than the internet? Maybe
quarantining it in another subnet might be the ultimate solution.

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net

 

[LaManchaDQ]

Now that is an interesting situation. I did some Googling and got no
ideas.

I see you've posted in alt.comp.macintosh, did you try comp.sys.macintosh
too?
The news servers that I subscribe to have such short retention periods, I
don't
see too much history in either of those groups. I Googled those groups,
too, not
much there either.

I did see some vague references to something called "Finder" on Apple
computers,
which might be some counterpart to the NT Browser. See if you can find a
switch
for "Finder" on your Mac, and see if Finder can be disabled. It's a long
shot
but it beats having to reboot your Mac each time you boot the Windows
computer
IMHO.

Does your Mac need any network resources, other than the internet? Maybe
quarantining it in another subnet might be the ultimate solution.

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net

Here's the deal

The Borwser name gibberish was being caused by my Mac having IPv6 turned on
and me not having IPV6 installed in Windows.

The overall browsing issue was caused by the OS X demanding master browser
responsibility when it booted first. So there were two Samba configuration
files on the mac that I inserted lines that essentially told the Mac not to
take master preferred or local browser responsibilities at any time. Many
thanks go out to Joel at joelshoemaker.com and a very detailed post from
drclaw at Mac OS X Hints.

I really don't know why OS X wasn't providing the server list to the Windows
machines but since I couldn't get it to play nice I told it it couldn't play
at all

Thanks again for your help and interest.

 

[Chuck]

Here's the deal

The Borwser name gibberish was being caused by my Mac having IPv6 turned on
and me not having IPV6 installed in Windows.

The overall browsing issue was caused by the OS X demanding master browser
responsibility when it booted first. So there were two Samba configuration
files on the mac that I inserted lines that essentially told the Mac not to
take master preferred or local browser responsibilities at any time. Many
thanks go out to Joel at joelshoemaker.com and a very detailed post from
drclaw at Mac OS X Hints.

I really don't know why OS X wasn't providing the server list to the Windows
machines but since I couldn't get it to play nice I told it it couldn't play
at all

Thanks again for your help and interest.

Alright! Another IPV6 issue. Did you try applying IPV6 in Windows? Did it
make any improvement?

Kewl that you could get the master browser issue resolved. As complex as master
browser elections are in Windows alone, I don't think it's too surprising that
Apple / Windows elections would be a bit uncertain. It's good that the Mac
experts were able to help so quickly.

The web pages might be of use here, if you could post them.

Thanks for taking your time to report your experiences. Please let us know how
this works out, I'm sure you're not the only one with an Apple / Windows LAN.
You might be one of the few with a well working one though.

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.

 

[LaManchaDQ]

Alright! Another IPV6 issue. Did you try applying IPV6 in Windows? Did
it
make any improvement?

Kewl that you could get the master browser issue resolved. As complex as
master
browser elections are in Windows alone, I don't think it's too surprising
that
Apple / Windows elections would be a bit uncertain. It's good that the
Mac
experts were able to help so quickly.

The web pages might be of use here, if you could post them.

Thanks for taking your time to report your experiences. Please let us
know how
this works out, I'm sure you're not the only one with an Apple / Windows
LAN.
You might be one of the few with a well working one though.

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.

By all means. Here are the web sources I used
http://www.macwindows.com
http://www.joelshoemaker.com
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20031113060738627&query=file+sharing

http://www.macmend.com

http://www.chicagotech.net/browser.htm

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...mt/netmgmt/network_management_error_codes.asp



There were other I visited just to learn about IPv6, Samba and Network
Browser. I just googled those terms and looked at the most likely ones that
addressed basics or my specific issue.

 

[Chuck]

By all means. Here are the web sources I used
http://www.macwindows.com
http://www.joelshoemaker.com
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20031113060738627&query=file+sharing

http://www.macmend.com

http://www.chicagotech.net/browser.htm

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...mt/netmgmt/network_management_error_codes.asp



There were other I visited just to learn about IPv6, Samba and Network
Browser. I just googled those terms and looked at the most likely ones that
addressed basics or my specific issue.

Excellent. Thank you for providing those for future reference.

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.