XP Key Authentication disabled Office 2003

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Leythos said:
Kurt, I replied to the only part of your post that wasn't the same old
crap you've said for the last 5 times. I posted something that you
didn't like the tone of, but you said that it would have been ok if I
had posted it a way you liked..... To bad for you I guess.

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LOL! You'd rather antagonize people with a problem right from the
start, instead of trying to put them more at ease! Cool!

Thanks for clearing that up for all of us! Your ego is more important
than the people you claim you are trying to help! I think we all
understand where you are coming from now!

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LOL! You'd rather antagonize people with a problem right from the
start, instead of trying to put them more at ease! Cool!
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It's all in perception, and you're always appears to be slanted to the
far side of reality. I don't see the OP complaining like you did. In
fact, I don't see where he's said much since you started complaining
about the way I posted.
 
Leythos said:
It's all in perception, and you're always appears to be slanted to the
far side of reality.
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LOL! Let's take a poll!
I don't see the OP complaining like you did. In
fact, I don't see where he's said much since you started complaining
about the way I posted.
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LOL! That's because he has decided to cut his losses due to the greed
of MS!

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LOL! That's because he has decided to cut his losses due to the greed
of MS!
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I use OO and O2003 on many systems, and there is a limit to what OO can
handle when importing MS Office documents.
 
Leythos said:
I use OO and O2003 on many systems, and there is a limit to what OO
can handle when importing MS Office documents.
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For most people, OO is just fine. And I use both myself.

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For most people, OO is just fine. And I use both myself.
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I agree that it's fine for most people, but for businesses, even small
ones, it can be a challenge to work with other businesses when most of
them use MS Office of some version.

I've seen a number of legal contracts not import properly, documents
with minor formatting, even simple spread-sheets fail to import
properly.

My mother-in-law uses OO on her system, even though she qualifies for
Office 2003 to be installed on her PC - since the licensing allows for a
laptop/desktop install under the same license... She likes it, but she's
not doing anything business related with it.
 
Leythos said:
I agree that it's fine for most people, but for businesses, even small
ones, it can be a challenge to work with other businesses when most of
them use MS Office of some version.

I've seen a number of legal contracts not import properly, documents
with minor formatting, even simple spread-sheets fail to import
properly.

My mother-in-law uses OO on her system, even though she qualifies for
Office 2003 to be installed on her PC - since the licensing allows
for a laptop/desktop install under the same license... She likes it,
but she's not doing anything business related with it.
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One day in the future MS's business clients will be pressuring MS to be
more compatible with OO, as it used more and more by their customers.

OO is good enough for most, and getting better.

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Apple Mac OS X has security problems, but exploiting these security problems on OS X is much harder and proprogate over the Internet within an hour or two. Mac OS X is a great operating system. I used an Apple PowerBook G4 for two years. I accomplished and learned quite a bit using it than I do with Windows. With Windows, you get in a regiment to constantly run anti-spyware, anti-virus, etc. program and back up your data. With Mac OS X, all of those horrid utilities to protect your computer are non existant. I never needed to use anti-virus, firewall, anti-spyware, etc. software to protect Mac OS X.


Apple's looking better to me all the time. The learning curve is
easy, there are no security problems to speak of, everything just
works out of the box, and the software is at least as good as the
best Windows software.
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There have been more than a dozen security updates for OS/X in the last
12 months. Oh, and if you really think it all "Works out of the box" you
should talk to anyone that uses and apple for more than a web-browser.
 
Apple Mac OS X has security problems, but exploiting these security problems on OS X is much harder and proprogate over the Internet within an hour or two. Mac OS X is a great operating system. I used an Apple PowerBook G4 for two years. I accomplished and learned quite a bit using it than I do with Windows. With Windows, you get in a regiment to constantly run anti-spyware, anti-virus, etc. program and back up your data. With Mac OS X, all of those horrid
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utilities to protect your computer are non existent. I never needed to use anti-virus, firewall, anti-spyware, etc. software to protect Mac OS X.

But the interesting thing is those updates never have caused me any lost
work time. My av software updates silently in the background, my Windows
updates are done after hours, my system runs many more business
applications than I can start to find for the Apple, and I have even
better support than the apple.

What's really nice about an apple is that it's not a large target,
simple for anyone to use that's not technical, as long as they can
follow simple directions, and many windows applications are available
for the Apple system.

The bad thing is that it's an Apple, mostly single source for computer,
OS has been historically buggy (yea, I've got many MAC customers that
complain about their daily use MAC systems), slower than a PC for the
same price...... Do I really need to go on.
 
Leythos said:
The bad thing is that it's an Apple, mostly single source for computer,
OS has been historically buggy (yea, I've got many MAC customers that
complain about their daily use MAC systems), slower than a PC for the
same price...... Do I really need to go on.
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Please do; it was just getting interesting ...

Alias
 
Please do; it was just getting interesting ...

Alias
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Heck, my father in-law owns a printing business and so does his son.
When it comes time to run catalog item sorts for output on PageMaker or
other layout apps on the MAC, they always come to me to run the sort
routines on our PC based machines, been that was for more than 10 years.

It's about flexibility more than anything, simple users can use canned
only type computers, people that require flexibility or power can't
generally use a canned box.
 
It's about flexibility more than anything, simple users can use canned
only type computers, people that require flexibility or power can't
generally use a canned box.
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Personally I'm not a MAC fan because of the proprietary nature of both the
hardware and operating system. BUT to try and compare Windoze flexibility
with OS X flexibility and suggest the former is more "flexible" is one of
the most ignorant statements I've seen around this newsgroup in a while,
and that's saying something - believe me!

OS/X is at least 100 times more flexible than is Windows XP and I'm being
very generous to XP. In case you weren't aware, OS X runs on top of BSD.
Maybe a quick read of this web page will point out the flexibility provided
with OS X?

http://archive.macosxlabs.org/documentation/whymacosx.html


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Windows is *NOT* a virus. Viruses are small and efficient.
A brief overview of Windows' most serious design flaws
http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/rants/microsoft/IhateMS_A.html
 
Personally I'm not a MAC fan because of the proprietary nature of both the
hardware and operating system. BUT to try and compare Windoze flexibility
with OS X flexibility and suggest the former is more "flexible" is one of
the most ignorant statements I've seen around this newsgroup in a while,
and that's saying something - believe me!

OS/X is at least 100 times more flexible than is Windows XP and I'm being
very generous to XP. In case you weren't aware, OS X runs on top of BSD.
Maybe a quick read of this web page will point out the flexibility provided
with OS X?

http://archive.macosxlabs.org/documentation/whymacosx.html
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It runs a variant of BSD, not the full BSD, unmodified kernel. If it
were just a BSD box, it would still not have the same flexibility of
applications of a Windows platform, just due to numbers of applications
that are beyond shareware.

I've used Lunux for a while now, and also AIX in the old days, and also
a Mac in the old days, and have customers that use OS/X and their
Windows based systems too - I see MAC users doing little database or
programming while I see PC users doing all that and the same things that
MAC users are doing.

Until OS/X came out it was next to impossible to use a MAC for a
development environment, networking or cad or programming. With OS/X
there are many problems with older applications not being supported and
such, same with moving from 98 to XP...

If you've lived in both worlds you see the above.
 
Leythos said:
It runs a variant of BSD, not the full BSD, unmodified kernel. If it
were just a BSD box, it would still not have the same flexibility of
applications of a Windows platform, just due to numbers of applications
that are beyond shareware.
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Sorry, but that is just not true at all. There's far more open source
applications around than there are commercial applications.
I've used Lunux for a while now, and also AIX in the old days, and also
a Mac in the old days, and have customers that use OS/X and their
Windows based systems too - I see MAC users doing little database or
programming while I see PC users doing all that and the same things that
MAC users are doing.
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The paradigm has switched. What you consider database programming is for
desktop machines. Most programming today is for the server/client model
using things like MySQL, Oracle, DB2, PHP, Perl, Java, etc. OS X is very
good platform for the development of this stuff.
Until OS/X came out it was next to impossible to use a MAC for a
development environment, networking or cad or programming. With OS/X
there are many problems with older applications not being supported and
such, same with moving from 98 to XP...
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I was referring to your statement as regards to flexibility and you
certainly aren't convincing me that XP is in anyway nearly as flexible as
is OS X. Sorry.

Again, not trying to be an OS X advocate, but being honest about its
capabilities compared to XP.


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Windows is *NOT* a virus. Viruses are small and efficient.
A brief overview of Windows' most serious design flaws
http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/rants/microsoft/IhateMS_A.html
 
Apple Mac OS X has security problems, but exploiting these security problems on OS X is much harder and proprogate over the Internet within an hour or two. Mac OS X is a great operating system. I used an Apple PowerBook G4 for two years. I accomplished and learned quite a bit using it than I do with Windows. With Windows, you get in a regiment to constantly run anti-spyware, anti-virus, etc. program and back up your data. With Mac OS X, all of those horrid utilities to protect your computer are non existant. I never needed to use anti-virus, firewall, anti-spyware, etc. software to protect Mac OS X.

That's one of the main things that makes it attractive. No need to
worry about security, as I said initially. I know all the
Microsoft fan boys would love for Apple OS-X and Tiger to be
riddled with security problems, but it just isn't the case. They
are safe systems out of the box. Sure, there's the odd virus or
exploit on a Mac, but on Windows there are thousands of them.
Plus, the OS is Unix based. If I could upgrade the Mini-Mac, I
would probably buy one just to learn the OS and get familiar with it.
 
I was referring to your statement as regards to flexibility and you
certainly aren't convincing me that XP is in anyway nearly as flexible as
is OS X. Sorry.

Again, not trying to be an OS X advocate, but being honest about its
capabilities compared to XP.
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That's fine with me, we'll have to agree to disagree. I've seen what I
consider power OS/X users and I'm not impressed with what is available
to them. As a developer, programmer, DBA, network designer, I've never
been impressed with Apples scope, and I'm still not.

I think that apple has its place, much like every platform/os, and it
fills its place quite well and will continue to do so. I actually have
no beef with OS/X when considering its target audience.
 
Apple OS-X and Tiger to be
riddled with security problems, but it just isn't the case. They
are safe systems out of the box. Sure, there's the odd virus or
exploit on a Mac, but on Windows there are thousands of them.
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There isn't a OS out-there that's secure, except maybe some versions of
BSD, but if you open a OS/X from it's store bought box, hang it live on
the internet, it's still a target and has exploits until it's patched.
 
Al Smith said:
That's one of the main things that makes it attractive. No need to worry
about security, as I said initially. I know all the Microsoft fan boys
would love for Apple OS-X and Tiger to be riddled with security problems,
but it just isn't the case. They are safe systems out of the box. Sure,
there's the odd virus or exploit on a Mac, but on Windows there are
thousands of them. Plus, the OS is Unix based. If I could upgrade the
Mini-Mac, I would probably buy one just to learn the OS and get familiar
with it.
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Here's a security problem that's just as bad as anything from Microsoft.
Warning: there's an annoying ad on the link but it doesn't seem to cause any
problems.

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5700982.html?tag=nl.e539

Yes, the flaw is easily worked around by those who know what they are doing.
How many Mac users would know how to do it and even deleting the widget from
the library doesn't stop it from happening again. I'm sure there will be a
workaround/fix soon. I'm just pointing out that all OS's can and will be
compromised. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional or just doesn't
understand how complicated programming an OS is.

Kerry
 
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Mark,

All M$ products require activation as far as I am aware so which substitute products are you using? I have used WordPerfect Office 12 and it is a complete NO NO!! I will never use open source products because if you pay peanuts you get monkeys!!!

So the only way out is to continue using Uncle bill's products and if you think they are expensive, then try piracy. I do it all the time. My University buys licenses for few machines but I install them on about 1200 PCs and laptops - not to mention that I supply free CDs to students who needs them!! In the long term, M$ products works out cheaper than competitors'.

I strongly advocate piracy wherever possible to minimise your outgoings. Michael Stevens (MVP - Most Valuable Pirate) has got a link to extract serial numbers from public systems to reinstall software on any systems.

Hope you will continue supporting piracy to unseat Uncle Bill from top position.

Students call me FAT B@stard because of my no nonsense approach to life and death.

Kev
 
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