Leythos said:Kurt, I've been troubleshooting all sorts of technical problems since
the 70's and when working with something new, as it appeared the OP
was, it's always good to know if others are experiencing the same
problem. I've seen very few posts describing the same problem that
the OP stated, with his specifics, and did more than just say "it
worked for me".
I gave information on how I've tested and seen it work on hundreds of
computers and then, so as to not just be a "it worked for me" I also
presented him with what I would try first, since he had not already
posted that he tried my corrective action.
Don't be so negative all the time, when dealing with the unknown it's
good to start at step 1, not at step 30.
Leythos said:I felt that I would address this separately. I made no assumptions
about the poster or any other reply to him.
Since none of our legit systems have failed the WGA I would expect
many different possible problems, pirated software being a
possibility, but certainly not the only possibility.
Many things, like AV software, custom applications, installations that
didn't complete properly, re-using keys, etc...
I don't take sides in why or how MS implements it's protection
mechanisms and it doesn't seem to impact me or my customers. If it was
as much a problem as you want it to be, we would stop using MS
Applications, but so far it's been painless for us.
What you don't understand is that it was totally unnecessary
information!
Others have reported that WGA has failed to validate legit installs.
Just because YOU haven't seen something, doesn't mean it doesn't happen!
Drop the "it works for me" crap! THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD REASON FOR
IT! IT ACCOMPLISHES NOTHING!
Leythos said:With no similar postings from others that I've seen in this group, and
the OP's being the first with his specific situation, why can't you
start with the basics first?
You're not going to change my methods, where, when I have a problem, I
want to know if others are experiencing the same, and that means from
those that are and are not.
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Leythos said:Have I once even inferred that it's perfect, that it works for
everyone? NO, I've not stated that once.
I know it's happening, I see it frequently posted, but I had not see
the same scenario posted as was presented to us this time.
And you're insisting that additional information is useless to the
troubleshooting process accomplishes nothing, except wasting
bandwidth. It's a valid point, to learn if a process is causing
problems or not with other systems.
HOW DOES INFORMING THE PERSON HAVING A PROBLEM THAT IT WORKS FOR YOU
HELP THE PERSON HAVING THE PROBLEM AT ALL?!
IT DOESN'T! Why can't you admit it doesn't help?
Leythos said:User states they are having a problem - not one that readers have seen
in this group before.
User has provided little information about anything except SP2 and
Office 2003 - not any additional service patches, not about Office
service patches, not about additional changes to system or other
applications running on the system.
Responder posts that they have tested/run the same setup without any
complications on many systems of varied setups.
Responder suggests uninstall, reboot, reinstall, to determine if that
method resolves the problem.
User, being informed that it could be isolated to his setup, can
trouble shoot based on it working on some systems and not on his
system.
User with the above information can start looking at what makes their
system different from many other systems, for things that user name be
doing that most others are NOT doing.
Since there was no feedback about it working on other systems until I
posted, and no feedback confirming the same problem with other users
similar setups, I can't understand how you can discount both
working/not working as help.
Why can't you admit that you just don't troubleshoot for a living,
which is obvious from your statements here.
Apple's looking better to me all the time. The learning curve is
easy, there are no security problems to speak of, everything just
works out of the box, and the software is at least as good as the
best Windows software.
Full of SH*T, that's what you are!
Leythos said:There have been more than a dozen security updates for OS/X in the last
12 months. Oh, and if you really think it all "Works out of the box" you
should talk to anyone that uses and apple for more than a web-browser.
You're an idi*t. How many times do you have to activate Apple? Until the
activation, prove you bought it bullsh*t, I never considered getting an
Apple. Now, what with the Mini Mac, I am seriously considering it. WPA, etc.
was the worst PR move that MS has ever made and the best thing it ever did
for Apple.
Leythos said:You and Kurt really take the cake - no where did the last poster mention
Activation
of" and I said there have been more than a dozen in the last 12 months.
Is there something in the air over there this week that's messing with
your brain?
Leythos said:Kurt, I had thought that you were almost human, but it appears you've
gone off your medication again and are just trolling.
What would you call this?:
"With Longhorn's anti-piracy and Big Brother Security"
and neither did I. Hs said "no security problems to speak
Of course, Apple has security updates, although that doesn't mean that Apple
any "security problems to speak of", now does it? MY point was that
*authentication* is making me want to go to Apple. Please see the Subject
Field.
I suspect now that your ribs are healed you, and you feel less
vulnerable, you have gone back to being a pompous ass. You have even
gone back to replying to one line among dozens, without acknowledging
the snip.
Leythos said:I've replied this way for more than 2 decades and you seem to be the
only one, in all that time, that's ever had a problem with it.
As for how I feel, yep, ribs feel a lot better, but that has nothing
to do with how I reply or anything else about usenet postings.
I do see that you're your usual, unhelpful self again.
LOL! You just cannot take constructive criticism! Again you reply to
the LEAST important part of my post.
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