xp isn't xp

[John]

old computer supposed to be xp home. Says so when I boot it.

New computer, one drive 64 bit vista, the other drive from the old computer.

The old xp won't boot so I tried to use my xp-pro disk to fix it. But
just says there is a partition with "Another system" on the drive... it
doesn't recognize it as xp and wants to delete it.

Any possibilities here?

From my 64 bit Vista drive is there a way to look at the old drive (as
slave) and find out what system is really on it?

Thanks
John

 

[Shenan Stanley]

old computer supposed to be xp home. Says so when I boot it.

New computer, one drive 64 bit vista, the other drive from the old
computer.
The old xp won't boot so I tried to use my xp-pro disk to fix it.
But just says there is a partition with "Another system" on the
drive... it doesn't recognize it as xp and wants to delete it.

Any possibilities here?

From my 64 bit Vista drive is there a way to look at the old drive
(as slave) and find out what system is really on it?

You said it in your own post.

- The drive currently has Windows XP Home Edition on it.
- You have a Windows XP Professional Edition CD.
Conclusion: You cannot repair Windows XP Home Edition with a Windows XP
Professional Edition CD.

Windows XP comes in different 'editions'. Starter, Home, Professional,
Tablet PC, Media Center Edition (two versions of this actually),
Professional x64, etc.

You cannot use one to repair another - they have different licenses. If you
want to repair the Windows XP Home Edition - you need your Windows XP Home
Edition CD to do so. Where is your CD for this Old PC?

 

[peter]

Lets point out a few things here
The old computers hardware was different from new computer...therefore
drivers do not match.
New computer was setup to boot Vista..you CANNOT just install another drive
in the slave position and expect it to boot
The BIOS looks at the Vista drive..finds the MBR and Boots It doesn't
bother looking at the XP drive.

Under Vista you should be able to see the drive with Explorer or under
Computer Management/Disk management.


If you really want to boot off the XP drive you will need to disconnect the
Vista drive and using your XP CD
you will need to do a repair install. Be prepared with XP drivers for new
computer. You gave us no hardware
information so finding the XP drivers for your specific computer is your
task. Also if you have installed all of the service packs
you will need a "slipstreamed" version of XP pro with the service packs
slipstreamed into it or you will end up having to do
all of the "upgrades" again. Once you have this done you can reconnect your
Vista drive.
Now if you want to boot from XP you will need to enter the BIOS at boot and
Change the boot sequence
so that the XP drive is 1st choice.

peter

 

[xr280xr]

"New computer was setup to boot Vista..you CANNOT just install another drive
in the slave position and expect it to boot"

Peter,
This is confusing to me. There should be no reason why he can't install the
drive as a slave and boot the computer. Did you mean he can't install it as a
slave and have it boot from the XP drive?

 

[David B.]

That is what he meant I believe.

 

[John]

This is what I tried to do. Disconnected the Vista drive. Put xp cd and
booted from that. Tried to do a repair install but it didn't even offer
it. I was hoping it would find the correct drivers on the internet.

The xp disk I used was unrelated to the original xp disk which is long
gone. I have given up... it was just a thought.

John

 

[Shenan Stanley]

old computer supposed to be xp home. Says so when I boot it.

New computer, one drive 64 bit vista, the other drive from the old
computer.
The old xp won't boot so I tried to use my xp-pro disk to fix it.
But just says there is a partition with "Another system" on the
drive... it doesn't recognize it as xp and wants to delete it.

Any possibilities here?

From my 64 bit Vista drive is there a way to look at the old drive
(as slave) and find out what system is really on it?

Lets point out a few things here
The old computers hardware was different from new
computer...therefore drivers do not match.
New computer was setup to boot Vista..you CANNOT just install
another drive in the slave position and expect it to boot
The BIOS looks at the Vista drive..finds the MBR and Boots It
doesn't bother looking at the XP drive.

Under Vista you should be able to see the drive with Explorer or
under Computer Management/Disk management.


If you really want to boot off the XP drive you will need to
disconnect the Vista drive and using your XP CD
you will need to do a repair install. Be prepared with XP drivers
for new computer. You gave us no hardware
information so finding the XP drivers for your specific computer is
your task. Also if you have installed all of the service packs
you will need a "slipstreamed" version of XP pro with the service
packs slipstreamed into it or you will end up having to do
all of the "upgrades" again. Once you have this done you can
reconnect your Vista drive.
Now if you want to boot from XP you will need to enter the BIOS at
boot and Change the boot sequence
so that the XP drive is 1st choice.

This is what I tried to do. Disconnected the Vista drive. Put xp cd
and booted from that. Tried to do a repair install but it didn't
even offer it. I was hoping it would find the correct drivers on
the internet.
The xp disk I used was unrelated to the original xp disk which is
long gone. I have given up... it was just a thought.

And it was a different edition - negating your subject line.

XP *is* XP.

But there are many different editions. You tried to use Professional to
repair Home. ;-)

 

[peter]

That’s what I meant

peter

 

[peter]

oops
missed that XP Pro try

peter

 

[John]

And it was a different edition - negating your subject line.

XP *is* XP.

But there are many different editions. You tried to use Professional to
repair Home. ;-)

Why wouldn't it offer to upgrade it then?
John

 

[Shenan Stanley]

old computer supposed to be xp home. Says so when I boot it.

New computer, one drive 64 bit vista, the other drive from the old
computer.

The old xp won't boot so I tried to use my xp-pro disk to fix it.
But just says there is a partition with "Another system" on the
drive... it doesn't recognize it as xp and wants to delete it.

Any possibilities here?

From my 64 bit Vista drive is there a way to look at the old drive
(as slave) and find out what system is really on it?

Lets point out a few things here
The old computers hardware was different from new
computer...therefore drivers do not match.
New computer was setup to boot Vista..you CANNOT just install
another drive in the slave position and expect it to boot
The BIOS looks at the Vista drive..finds the MBR and Boots It
doesn't bother looking at the XP drive.

Under Vista you should be able to see the drive with Explorer or
under Computer Management/Disk management.


If you really want to boot off the XP drive you will need to
disconnect the Vista drive and using your XP CD
you will need to do a repair install. Be prepared with XP drivers
for new computer. You gave us no hardware
information so finding the XP drivers for your specific computer is
your task. Also if you have installed all of the service packs
you will need a "slipstreamed" version of XP pro with the service
packs slipstreamed into it or you will end up having to do
all of the "upgrades" again. Once you have this done you can
reconnect your Vista drive.
Now if you want to boot from XP you will need to enter the BIOS at
boot and Change the boot sequence
so that the XP drive is 1st choice.

This is what I tried to do. Disconnected the Vista drive. Put xp cd
and booted from that. Tried to do a repair install but it didn't
even offer it. I was hoping it would find the correct drivers on
the internet.
The xp disk I used was unrelated to the original xp disk which is
long gone. I have given up... it was just a thought.

And it was a different edition - negating your subject line.

XP *is* XP.

But there are many different editions. You tried to use
Professional to repair Home. ;-)

Why wouldn't it offer to upgrade it then?

Probably because your copy of Windows XP Professional is likely an OEM
licensed copy - OEM licensed copies (unmodified) cannot perform upgrades.

Is your Windows XP Professional Edition CD an OEM copy? Did it come with
another computer and/or did you purchase it at a lower cost that you saw in
retail stores and it was in a cardboard-backed cellophane wrapped
container - no hard plastic case with a sticker on it, no fancy box, etc?

 

[John]

Probably because your copy of Windows XP Professional is likely an OEM
licensed copy - OEM licensed copies (unmodified) cannot perform upgrades.

Is your Windows XP Professional Edition CD an OEM copy? Did it come with
another computer and/or did you purchase it at a lower cost that you saw in
retail stores and it was in a cardboard-backed cellophane wrapped
container - no hard plastic case with a sticker on it, no fancy box, etc?

Yeah... got it off of Craig's List. Met the guy in a parking lot and
yada yada... screwed again for $40.00 or so.

this is a son's old old computer. I just wanted to keep it going till I
install windows 7 and give him my vista

John

John

 

[Shenan Stanley]

old computer supposed to be xp home. Says so when I boot it.

New computer, one drive 64 bit vista, the other drive from the old
computer.

The old xp won't boot so I tried to use my xp-pro disk to fix it.
But just says there is a partition with "Another system" on the
drive... it doesn't recognize it as xp and wants to delete it.

Any possibilities here?

From my 64 bit Vista drive is there a way to look at the old drive
(as slave) and find out what system is really on it?

Lets point out a few things here
The old computers hardware was different from new
computer...therefore drivers do not match.
New computer was setup to boot Vista..you CANNOT just install
another drive in the slave position and expect it to boot
The BIOS looks at the Vista drive..finds the MBR and Boots It
doesn't bother looking at the XP drive.

Under Vista you should be able to see the drive with Explorer or
under Computer Management/Disk management.


If you really want to boot off the XP drive you will need to
disconnect the Vista drive and using your XP CD
you will need to do a repair install. Be prepared with XP drivers
for new computer. You gave us no hardware
information so finding the XP drivers for your specific computer is
your task. Also if you have installed all of the service packs
you will need a "slipstreamed" version of XP pro with the service
packs slipstreamed into it or you will end up having to do
all of the "upgrades" again. Once you have this done you can
reconnect your Vista drive.
Now if you want to boot from XP you will need to enter the BIOS at
boot and Change the boot sequence
so that the XP drive is 1st choice.

This is what I tried to do. Disconnected the Vista drive. Put xp cd
and booted from that. Tried to do a repair install but it didn't
even offer it. I was hoping it would find the correct drivers on
the internet.
The xp disk I used was unrelated to the original xp disk which is
long gone. I have given up... it was just a thought.

And it was a different edition - negating your subject line.

XP *is* XP.

But there are many different editions. You tried to use
Professional to repair Home. ;-)

Why wouldn't it offer to upgrade it then?

Probably because your copy of Windows XP Professional is likely an
OEM licensed copy - OEM licensed copies (unmodified) cannot perform
upgrades.
Is your Windows XP Professional Edition CD an OEM copy? Did it
come with another computer and/or did you purchase it at a lower
cost that you saw in retail stores and it was in a cardboard-backed
cellophane wrapped container - no hard plastic case with a sticker

Yeah... got it off of Craig's List. Met the guy in a parking lot and
yada yada... screwed again for $40.00 or so.

this is a son's old old computer. I just wanted to keep it going
till I install windows 7 and give him my vista

Unless you bought retail copies - you are not, in accordance with the
End-User License Agreement, supposed to transfer the OSes from one machine
to another. Technically - chances are it will work, activate, function
forever. It does not follow the letter of the agreement, however.

Not to mention that unless you actually meant you were going to give your
son the *whole* machine with Vista installed - *I* wouldn't install Vista on
a machine with less than a 2.3GHz processor (preferrably dual core) and
1.5GB+ of memory at this point. The same goes for WIndows 7 - except I
would up it to 3GB memory. ;-) It'll use it - trust me.

My opinion, of course.

 

[John]

old computer supposed to be xp home. Says so when I boot it.

New computer, one drive 64 bit vista, the other drive from the old
computer.

The old xp won't boot so I tried to use my xp-pro disk to fix it.
But just says there is a partition with "Another system" on the
drive... it doesn't recognize it as xp and wants to delete it.

Any possibilities here?

From my 64 bit Vista drive is there a way to look at the old drive
(as slave) and find out what system is really on it?

Lets point out a few things here
The old computers hardware was different from new
computer...therefore drivers do not match.
New computer was setup to boot Vista..you CANNOT just install
another drive in the slave position and expect it to boot
The BIOS looks at the Vista drive..finds the MBR and Boots It
doesn't bother looking at the XP drive.

Under Vista you should be able to see the drive with Explorer or
under Computer Management/Disk management.


If you really want to boot off the XP drive you will need to
disconnect the Vista drive and using your XP CD
you will need to do a repair install. Be prepared with XP drivers
for new computer. You gave us no hardware
information so finding the XP drivers for your specific computer is
your task. Also if you have installed all of the service packs
you will need a "slipstreamed" version of XP pro with the service
packs slipstreamed into it or you will end up having to do
all of the "upgrades" again. Once you have this done you can
reconnect your Vista drive.
Now if you want to boot from XP you will need to enter the BIOS at
boot and Change the boot sequence
so that the XP drive is 1st choice.

This is what I tried to do. Disconnected the Vista drive. Put xp cd
and booted from that. Tried to do a repair install but it didn't
even offer it. I was hoping it would find the correct drivers on
the internet.
The xp disk I used was unrelated to the original xp disk which is
long gone. I have given up... it was just a thought.

And it was a different edition - negating your subject line.

XP *is* XP.

But there are many different editions. You tried to use
Professional to repair Home. ;-)

Why wouldn't it offer to upgrade it then?

Probably because your copy of Windows XP Professional is likely an
OEM licensed copy - OEM licensed copies (unmodified) cannot perform
upgrades.
Is your Windows XP Professional Edition CD an OEM copy? Did it
come with another computer and/or did you purchase it at a lower
cost that you saw in retail stores and it was in a cardboard-backed
cellophane wrapped container - no hard plastic case with a sticker


Unless you bought retail copies - you are not, in accordance with the
End-User License Agreement, supposed to transfer the OSes from one machine
to another. Technically - chances are it will work, activate, function
forever. It does not follow the letter of the agreement, however.

Not to mention that unless you actually meant you were going to give your
son the *whole* machine with Vista installed - *I* wouldn't install Vista on
a machine with less than a 2.3GHz processor (preferrably dual core) and
1.5GB+ of memory at this point. The same goes for WIndows 7 - except I
would up it to 3GB memory. ;-) It'll use it - trust me.

My opinion, of course.

It's single core 3+ mhz I think... it was a gamer's dream 4 years ago or
something. I put 4g ram in it and loaded vista 64 bit on it and it seems
to be dong ok. I took the vista 64 off my computer cause I screwed up
the installation. Rather than start over I'll just wait for windows 7. I
run my regular vista now.

Jon