XP Home Full - How many of MY PC's can I install on?

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kurttrail said:
Don said:
Yes, you can choose piracy, or choose honesty.
Piracy is the reason we have to deal with wpa now.

Show one shred of legal evidence [and Microsoft's words don't count]
that says that an individual installing the same copy of software on
more than one of their computers.

The choice is whether your feel your right to fair usely your copies
of legally purchased retail software in your home can be stripped
away from you by a post-sale shrinkwrap license, or not.

You buy the software, install it, AGREE to the Eula, and proceed.
Plenty enough evidence of piracy for me by knowlingly breaking the agreement
you accepted.
No, there won't be legal evidence, doesn't have to be.
We, the MS consumer , pay the price for actions you support at the end of
the day, and right now in the form of wpa.
Agree to the eula, abide by it. Don't agree, don't install and return the
software.
Don't get much simpler than that.
Is MS going to take you or any casual copier to court? Of course not, but
they will continue to progress on things like wpa because of what the likes
of you do.
 
Don said:
kurttrail said:
Don said:
kurttrail wrote:
Steve wrote:

I've been haring conflicting stories.

I'm curious, being I own more than one PC I'd like to
install it on, if I can install and activate it on more
than one of my computers?

Thanks,
Steve

http://microscum.kurttrail.com/mmpafaq/mmpafaq.htm

Depends on who you think is the Judge in your home! The choice is
yours!

Yes, you can choose piracy, or choose honesty.
Piracy is the reason we have to deal with wpa now.

Show one shred of legal evidence [and Microsoft's words don't count]
that says that an individual installing the same copy of software on
more than one of their computers.

The choice is whether your feel your right to fair usely your copies
of legally purchased retail software in your home can be stripped
away from you by a post-sale shrinkwrap license, or not.

You buy the software, install it, AGREE to the Eula, and proceed.
Plenty enough evidence of piracy for me by knowlingly breaking the
agreement you accepted.

The only evidence is that you don't know what you are talking about!
It's a contract dispute, not theft or piracy.
No, there won't be legal evidence, doesn't have to be.

LOL! What dream world do you live in, where people are guilty of
non-existent crimes with no legal evidence?
We, the MS consumer , pay the price for actions you support at the
end of the day, and right now in the form of wpa.

You have the greed of MS to thank for PA! MS's attempt to part more
money than they deserve for MS's paying consumers!
Agree to the eula, abide by it. Don't agree, don't install and return
the software.

Or break the contract, like people have been fo aver a decade! Breaking
a contract isn't illegal in and of itself, and the it's up to the other
party to enforce their contract in a court of law. MS has failed to do
this!
Don't get much simpler than that.

When you don't know how contract law works, it's very simple! LOL!
Is MS going to take you or any casual copier to court? Of course not,
but they will continue to progress on things like wpa because of what
the likes of you do.

The likes of me! LOL!

"The limited scope of the copyright holder's statutory monopoly, like
the limited copyright duration required by the Constitution, reflects a
balance of competing claims upon the public interest: Creative work is
to be encouraged and rewarded, but private motivation must ultimately
serve the cause of promoting broad public availability of literature,
music, and the other arts. The immediate effect of our copyright law is
to secure a fair return for an 'author's' creative labor. But the
ultimate aim is, by this incentive, to stimulate artistic creativity for
the general public good. 'The sole interest of the United States and
the primary object in conferring the monopoly,' this Court has said,
'lie in the general benefits derived by the public from the labors of
authors' . . . . When technological change has rendered its literal
terms ambiguous, the Copyright Act must be construed in light of this
basic purpose." - http://laws.findlaw.com/us/422/151.html
MS has $49 billion in cash reserves as of July 2003! In spite of fact
that almost all of their non-software businesses are losing money. On
top of all the legal settlements for Anti-trust abuse, and copyright &
patent infringement! Not to mention the losses due to the organized
crime software piracy rings operating in many Asian countries that have
weak or nearly non-existent copyright laws and/or enforcement. Can
anyone one argue, with a straight face, that MS hasn't gotten a "fair
return" for the creative labor of it's employees? So is there any
reasonable argument that MS's One Computer EULA term in keeping with the
'primary object" of Copyright which lies "in the general benefits
derived by the public from the labors of authors?"

It's all about corporate copyright owners that think that the purpose of
copyright is to protect so-called "intellectual property," not "in the
general benefits derived by the public from the labors of authors." You
have bought MS's FUD hook line and sinker! It's just that simple! We
have to thank you and your ilk for accept PA, because you bought MS's
PA-Disabled products! As long as consumers reinforce MS's PA nonsense
by paying MS for it, MS will continue this nonsense!

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.kurttrail.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
 
kurttrail said:
Don said:
kurttrail said:
Don Burnette wrote:

kurttrail wrote:
Steve wrote:

I've been haring conflicting stories.

I'm curious, being I own more than one PC I'd like to
install it on, if I can install and activate it on more
than one of my computers?

Thanks,
Steve

http://microscum.kurttrail.com/mmpafaq/mmpafaq.htm

Depends on who you think is the Judge in your home! The choice is
yours!

Yes, you can choose piracy, or choose honesty.
Piracy is the reason we have to deal with wpa now.

Show one shred of legal evidence [and Microsoft's words don't count]
that says that an individual installing the same copy of software on
more than one of their computers.

The choice is whether your feel your right to fair usely your copies
of legally purchased retail software in your home can be stripped
away from you by a post-sale shrinkwrap license, or not.

You buy the software, install it, AGREE to the Eula, and proceed.
Plenty enough evidence of piracy for me by knowlingly breaking the
agreement you accepted.

The only evidence is that you don't know what you are talking about!
It's a contract dispute, not theft or piracy.
No, there won't be legal evidence, doesn't have to be.

LOL! What dream world do you live in, where people are guilty of
non-existent crimes with no legal evidence?
We, the MS consumer , pay the price for actions you support at the
end of the day, and right now in the form of wpa.

You have the greed of MS to thank for PA! MS's attempt to part more
money than they deserve for MS's paying consumers!
Agree to the eula, abide by it. Don't agree, don't install and return
the software.

Or break the contract, like people have been fo aver a decade!
Breaking a contract isn't illegal in and of itself, and the it's up
to the other party to enforce their contract in a court of law. MS
has failed to do this!
Don't get much simpler than that.

When you don't know how contract law works, it's very simple! LOL!
Is MS going to take you or any casual copier to court? Of course not,
but they will continue to progress on things like wpa because of what
the likes of you do.

The likes of me! LOL!

"The limited scope of the copyright holder's statutory monopoly, like
the limited copyright duration required by the Constitution, reflects
a balance of competing claims upon the public interest: Creative work
is to be encouraged and rewarded, but private motivation must
ultimately serve the cause of promoting broad public availability of
literature, music, and the other arts. The immediate effect of our
copyright law is to secure a fair return for an 'author's' creative
labor. But the ultimate aim is, by this incentive, to stimulate
artistic creativity for the general public good. 'The sole interest
of the United States and the primary object in conferring the
monopoly,' this Court has said, 'lie in the general benefits derived
by the public from the labors of authors' . . . . When technological
change has rendered its literal terms ambiguous, the Copyright Act
must be construed in light of this basic purpose." -
http://laws.findlaw.com/us/422/151.html
MS has $49 billion in cash reserves as of July 2003! In spite of fact
that almost all of their non-software businesses are losing money. On
top of all the legal settlements for Anti-trust abuse, and copyright &
patent infringement! Not to mention the losses due to the organized
crime software piracy rings operating in many Asian countries that
have weak or nearly non-existent copyright laws and/or enforcement.
Can anyone one argue, with a straight face, that MS hasn't gotten a
"fair return" for the creative labor of it's employees? So is there
any reasonable argument that MS's One Computer EULA term in keeping
with the 'primary object" of Copyright which lies "in the general
benefits derived by the public from the labors of authors?"

It's all about corporate copyright owners that think that the purpose
of copyright is to protect so-called "intellectual property," not "in
the general benefits derived by the public from the labors of
authors." You have bought MS's FUD hook line and sinker! It's just
that simple! We have to thank you and your ilk for accept PA,
because you bought MS's PA-Disabled products! As long as consumers
reinforce MS's PA nonsense by paying MS for it, MS will continue this
nonsense!

No, as long as we have consumers that continue to find ways around wpa and
the eula, we will continue to have to put up with it, and each version will
probably just get worse.
What would you suggest, anyone that wants to run XP pirate it and not pay
for it?
What does MS having 49 billion in cash reserves have to do with any of this?
You would prefer they struggle and perhaps suffer the same fate as so many
tech companies have over the last 2-3 years?
Then where would we be?
My argument is, as long as consumers disagree with the agreement they agree
to, then simply cancel setup and return the software, or not buy it to begin
with. That would speak louder than anything.
 
| You ignorant ass. How the hell can M$ say 'casual copying' is the reason for
| wpa, if they've no proof that it was going on in the rampant way they say it
| is? You're such an addle-brained sheep. You haven't got the sense to have seen
| M$ was going to pull shit like this *anyway*, and now because it's easier to
| call someone a thief you don't even know and have absolutely no proof of being
| a thief, it's your only defense for being so damn stupid. Not only that, but
| wpa was *SUPPOSED* to have been made to deter *REAL* pirating, not your
| assinine 'casual copying', ****ing M$ even says so, but again, since it's
| easier to call potential owners of XPee thieves *BEFORE* they even buy the
| product, they just lumped idiots like you into the whole 'pirating' equation.
| You can keep bleeting and apologizing for it all you want, but it wasn't
| 'casual copiers' who shoved wpa down your FUD filled gullet...you ate it
| without any assistance because of your own gullibilty, ignorance, and cod-less
| stupidity.

John, why don't you stop holding back and tell him what you really think? ;-)

Larc



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