XP Home and W2K on same net?

[***** charles]

Hi all,

XP Home has an internal "Administrator" account.
Why can't a W2K machine where the person is
signed in as Administrator, access resources on
the XPH machine automatically?

Is it better to turn on the XPH machine on first
or the W2K machine? Which is better to be
the "master browser"?

thanks,
charles.....

 

[Robert L [MVP - Networking]]

1. if both administrators are using the same password, yes, they should be able to access each other.
2. XP should be the master browser and turn it on first if you want to do so. this link may help too,

Computer BrowserThe computer browser is to display a directory of all known computers or domains that the computer can reach. The purpose of the browser service is to ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/browser.htm


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
Hi all,

XP Home has an internal "Administrator" account.
Why can't a W2K machine where the person is
signed in as Administrator, access resources on
the XPH machine automatically?

Is it better to turn on the XPH machine on first
or the W2K machine? Which is better to be
the "master browser"?

thanks,
charles.....

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the response Robert. I am still unable to get either computer to
even see a list of computers in the workgroup. I can ping both ways - no
problem at the physical level but when I drill down in Windows Explorer to
the workgroup level in the network places, the computer just sits there and
does not give me a list of computers in the workgroup. I have tried enabling
the guest accounts, I have turned off biostcpip, both computers are dhcp'd to
a wrt54gl and that part works fine. I can browse the Internet with both
computers. XPH is 1.3 and W2K is 1.2. If there is a firewall that I don't
know about running how do I find it and "kill" it? Will nmap help? Both
computers have their D drive shared so there should be something in the list.
When I type in NET VIEW nothing comes up. Their are no passwords on the
Administrator accounts. Will fix later when I get them talking to each other.

thanks,
charles....

 

[Chuck]

Thanks for the response Robert. I am still unable to get either computer to
even see a list of computers in the workgroup. I can ping both ways - no
problem at the physical level but when I drill down in Windows Explorer to
the workgroup level in the network places, the computer just sits there and
does not give me a list of computers in the workgroup. I have tried enabling
the guest accounts, I have turned off biostcpip, both computers are dhcp'd to
a wrt54gl and that part works fine. I can browse the Internet with both
computers. XPH is 1.3 and W2K is 1.2. If there is a firewall that I don't
know about running how do I find it and "kill" it? Will nmap help? Both
computers have their D drive shared so there should be something in the list.
When I type in NET VIEW nothing comes up. Their are no passwords on the
Administrator accounts. Will fix later when I get them talking to each other.

thanks,
charles....

Charles,

If you turn off NetBT, you are cutting down your options. That requires your
personal firewalls to pass Directly Hosted SMBs. Plus it will restrict name
resolution.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html

You have to know what personal firewalls you have. There's no substitute here.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html

And check restrictanonymous.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/restrictanonymous-and-your-server.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/restrictanonymous-and-your-server.html

We might spot a clue to your problem from looking at "browstat status" and
"ipconfig /all" from each computer. Read this article, and linked articles, and
follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp

 

[***** charles]

known computers or domains that the computer can reach. The purpose of the
browser service is to ...

Charles,

If you turn off NetBT, you are cutting down your options. That requires your
personal firewalls to pass Directly Hosted SMBs. Plus it will restrict name
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.htm
l>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html

You have to know what personal firewalls you have. There's no substitute here.<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-hel
p.html>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help
..html

And check restrictanonymous.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/restrictanonymous-and-your-server.htm
l>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/restrictanonymous-and-your-server.html

We might spot a clue to your problem from looking at "browstat status" and
"ipconfig /all" from each computer. Read this article, and linked articles, and
follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.
html#AskingForHelp>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.h
tml#AskingForHelp

First of all thanks to all who repsonded. After two days of changing all
the
configurations in W2K and the XPH machine I got the feeling that the XPH
machine was corrupted. It also ended up having a "hidden" firewall on it
that even after I removed the machines still couldn't communicate
properly. I did add netBT and guest accounts in the process and it should
have worked then but didn't. I ended up wiping the XPH machine and
reinstalling from scratch. After that both machines communicated and
shared just fine. The XPH machine had been running for several years
where software had been added little by little and it had not been re-
built for a long time. It seems that for Windows machines a yearly re-
configuration does a world of good in preventing nasty little things from
cropping up.

thanks again,
charles......

 

[Chuck]

known computers or domains that the computer can reach. The purpose of the
browser service is to ...

First of all thanks to all who repsonded. After two days of changing all
the
configurations in W2K and the XPH machine I got the feeling that the XPH
machine was corrupted. It also ended up having a "hidden" firewall on it
that even after I removed the machines still couldn't communicate
properly. I did add netBT and guest accounts in the process and it should
have worked then but didn't. I ended up wiping the XPH machine and
reinstalling from scratch. After that both machines communicated and
shared just fine. The XPH machine had been running for several years
where software had been added little by little and it had not been re-
built for a long time. It seems that for Windows machines a yearly re-
configuration does a world of good in preventing nasty little things from
cropping up.

thanks again,
charles......

Thanks for letting us know, Charles. Sometimes, "flatten and pave" is the best
solution.

 

[***** charles]

Thanks for letting us know, Charles. Sometimes, "flatten and pave" is the best
solution.

Re-install from scratch for difficult problems is normally the way to go.
Problem is that this machine (sometimes others) has tons of software
on it and you run into "the dog ate my disk" problem. No way to
restore all the software on it. Usually if the "surgical solution" takes
more than say 4 or 5 hours including research I usually recommend the
scortched earth policy but sometimes the programs one blows away
have to be replaced with something equivalent at least. So there is
always a dilema.

later.....