XP Freezes Overnight


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Dennis

Every Friday night I leave my notebook PC turned on and I schedule all
my system maintenance programs to run (not concurrently). Lately, when I
get up on Saturday morning, I find the PC in a frozen state. I must hold
down the power on/off button until the system shuts down, then press
again for a restart.

A look at the Event Viewer shows the following as the last Application
or System event before the restart (which took place at 6:27 AM this
morning)...

Event Type: Error
Event Source: VolSnap
Event Category: None
Event ID: 20
Date: 3/3/2012
Time: 5:42:32 AM
User: N/A
Computer: BASIL
Description:
The shadow copy of volume G: was aborted because of a failed free space
computation.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 00 00 00 00 02 00 58 00 ......X.
0008: 00 00 00 00 14 00 06 c0 .......À
0010: 00 00 00 00 9a 00 00 c0 ....?..À
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

I see a similar VolSnap event every week about the same time on Saturday
morning. A complete system scan (with Avira Antivir Personal) starts at
3:30 AM and is still running when this event takes place. When I restart
the PC in the morning I manually run the Avira system scan without
incident. MBAM does not find any problems either.

Any ideas as to what might be causing the system to freeze?
 
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BillW50

Dennis said:
Every Friday night I leave my notebook PC turned on and I schedule all
my system maintenance programs to run (not concurrently). Lately, when I
get up on Saturday morning, I find the PC in a frozen state. I must hold
down the power on/off button until the system shuts down, then press
again for a restart.

A look at the Event Viewer shows the following as the last Application
or System event before the restart (which took place at 6:27 AM this
morning)... []
The shadow copy of volume G: was aborted because of a failed free space
computation. []
Any ideas as to what might be causing the system to freeze?
Could the message about there not being space to copy volume G: be
correct? That shouldn't IMO cause a system lockup, but is worth
investigating ... and, if you _are_ running low on space, that may cause
problems with other things.

I thought the very same thing when I read that earlier. Although I
wouldn't go so far and say it shouldn't cause a system lockup. Well ok,
the word "shouldn't" is probably ok, but the word "can't" would
definitely be the wrong word.

In programming circles and under any OS you can imagine, there are cute
programs that will show something so simple can cause an OS to hang, or
at least appear to hang.
 
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Dennis

Dennis said:
Every Friday night I leave my notebook PC turned on and I schedule all
my system maintenance programs to run (not concurrently). Lately, when I
get up on Saturday morning, I find the PC in a frozen state. I must hold
down the power on/off button until the system shuts down, then press
again for a restart.

A look at the Event Viewer shows the following as the last Application
or System event before the restart (which took place at 6:27 AM this
morning)... []
The shadow copy of volume G: was aborted because of a failed free space
computation. []
Any ideas as to what might be causing the system to freeze?
Could the message about there not being space to copy volume G: be
correct? That shouldn't IMO cause a system lockup, but is worth
investigating ... and, if you _are_ running low on space, that may cause
problems with other things.

The G: drive is a 2 TB external USB drive with approx 500 GB free. I use
this drive for my disk images.
 
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BillW50

Dennis said:
Every Friday night I leave my notebook PC turned on and I schedule all
my system maintenance programs to run (not concurrently). Lately, when I
get up on Saturday morning, I find the PC in a frozen state. I must hold
down the power on/off button until the system shuts down, then press
again for a restart.

A look at the Event Viewer shows the following as the last Application
or System event before the restart (which took place at 6:27 AM this
morning)... []
The shadow copy of volume G: was aborted because of a failed free space
computation. []
Any ideas as to what might be causing the system to freeze?
Could the message about there not being space to copy volume G: be
correct? That shouldn't IMO cause a system lockup, but is worth
investigating ... and, if you _are_ running low on space, that may cause
problems with other things.

The G: drive is a 2 TB external USB drive with approx 500 GB free. I use
this drive for my disk images.

How large is the drive you are trying to backup and all? If you are only
backing up 4GB, obviously something is wrong. If you are trying to
backup 250GB or greater, you could be running out of room counting the
whole backup plus temp files which could be as much as 250GB extra itself.
 
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Char Jackson

In message<[email protected]>, Dennis
Every Friday night I leave my notebook PC turned on and I schedule all
my system maintenance programs to run (not concurrently). Lately, when I
get up on Saturday morning, I find the PC in a frozen state. I must hold
down the power on/off button until the system shuts down, then press
again for a restart.

A look at the Event Viewer shows the following as the last Application
or System event before the restart (which took place at 6:27 AM this
morning)...
[]
The shadow copy of volume G: was aborted because of a failed free space
computation.
[]
Any ideas as to what might be causing the system to freeze?

Could the message about there not being space to copy volume G: be
correct? That shouldn't IMO cause a system lockup, but is worth
investigating ... and, if you _are_ running low on space, that may cause
problems with other things.

The G: drive is a 2 TB external USB drive with approx 500 GB free. I use
this drive for my disk images.

How large is the drive you are trying to backup and all? If you are only
backing up 4GB, obviously something is wrong. If you are trying to
backup 250GB or greater, you could be running out of room counting the
whole backup plus temp files which could be as much as 250GB extra itself.

Look again, the error message doesn't say anything about running out
of room. It says there was an error during free space computation. No
matter how full or how empty a drive is, Windows still needs to be
able to figure out how much free space is available.

I'd start with chkdsk, enabling the options to fix problems and do a
full scan.
 
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Dennis

In message<[email protected]>, Dennis
Every Friday night I leave my notebook PC turned on and I schedule all
my system maintenance programs to run (not concurrently). Lately, when I
get up on Saturday morning, I find the PC in a frozen state. I must hold
down the power on/off button until the system shuts down, then press
again for a restart.

A look at the Event Viewer shows the following as the last Application
or System event before the restart (which took place at 6:27 AM this
morning)...
[]
The shadow copy of volume G: was aborted because of a failed free space
computation.
[]
Any ideas as to what might be causing the system to freeze?

Could the message about there not being space to copy volume G: be
correct? That shouldn't IMO cause a system lockup, but is worth
investigating ... and, if you _are_ running low on space, that may cause
problems with other things.

The G: drive is a 2 TB external USB drive with approx 500 GB free. I use
this drive for my disk images.

How large is the drive you are trying to backup and all? If you are only
backing up 4GB, obviously something is wrong. If you are trying to
backup 250GB or greater, you could be running out of room counting the
whole backup plus temp files which could be as much as 250GB extra itself.

Although I said this is the drive I use for images of my primary drive
(120 GB), the Acronis disk image is finished long before this error
occurs.

Here is my schedule for Friday nights:

10PM - Acronis runs for about 50 minutes
midnite - MBAM runs (don't have the runtime because I deleted the logs
after looking at them this morning, but I don't believe it is
still running at 3:30AM)
3:30AM - Avira starts
5:30AM - VolSnap occurs

Thanks,
 
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Dennis

On Sat, 3 Mar 2012 17:29:55 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"

In message<[email protected]>, Dennis
Every Friday night I leave my notebook PC turned on and I schedule all
my system maintenance programs to run (not concurrently). Lately, when I
get up on Saturday morning, I find the PC in a frozen state. I must hold
down the power on/off button until the system shuts down, then press
again for a restart.

A look at the Event Viewer shows the following as the last Application
or System event before the restart (which took place at 6:27 AM this
morning)...
[]
The shadow copy of volume G: was aborted because of a failed free space
computation.
[]
Any ideas as to what might be causing the system to freeze?

Could the message about there not being space to copy volume G: be
correct? That shouldn't IMO cause a system lockup, but is worth
investigating ... and, if you _are_ running low on space, that may cause
problems with other things.

The G: drive is a 2 TB external USB drive with approx 500 GB free. I use
this drive for my disk images.

How large is the drive you are trying to backup and all? If you are only
backing up 4GB, obviously something is wrong. If you are trying to
backup 250GB or greater, you could be running out of room counting the
whole backup plus temp files which could be as much as 250GB extra itself.

Although I said this is the drive I use for images of my primary drive
(120 GB), the Acronis disk image is finished long before this error
occurs.

Here is my schedule for Friday nights:

10PM - Acronis runs for about 50 minutes
midnite - MBAM runs (don't have the runtime because I deleted the logs
after looking at them this morning, but I don't believe it is
still running at 3:30AM)
3:30AM - Avira starts
5:30AM - VolSnap occurs

I scheduled MBAM last night just to get the run time. It started at
12:01AM and ran for roughly 2.5 hours. So it should have finished well
before Avira started.

Tonite I will schedule Avira all by itself to see if the VolSnap occurs.
 
D

Dennis

Char Jackson said:
On 3/3/2012 12:41 PM, Dennis wrote:
On Sat, 3 Mar 2012 17:29:55 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"

In message<[email protected]>, Dennis
Every Friday night I leave my notebook PC turned on and I schedule all
my system maintenance programs to run (not concurrently). Lately, when I
get up on Saturday morning, I find the PC in a frozen state. I must hold
down the power on/off button until the system shuts down, then press
again for a restart.

A look at the Event Viewer shows the following as the last Application
or System event before the restart (which took place at 6:27 AM this
morning)...
[]
The shadow copy of volume G: was aborted because of a failed free space
computation.
[]
Any ideas as to what might be causing the system to freeze?

Could the message about there not being space to copy volume G: be
correct? That shouldn't IMO cause a system lockup, but is worth
investigating ... and, if you _are_ running low on space, that may cause
problems with other things.

The G: drive is a 2 TB external USB drive with approx 500 GB free. I use
this drive for my disk images.

How large is the drive you are trying to backup and all? If you are only
backing up 4GB, obviously something is wrong. If you are trying to
backup 250GB or greater, you could be running out of room counting the
whole backup plus temp files which could be as much as 250GB extra itself.

Look again, the error message doesn't say anything about running out
of room. It says there was an error during free space computation. No
matter how full or how empty a drive is, Windows still needs to be
able to figure out how much free space is available.

I'd start with chkdsk, enabling the options to fix problems and do a
full scan.


Go to \\\My Computer///
Right hand on C:
Click on Properties
in the Tab
Click on Tool

Error-checking
Check Now

do not check mark

But click Start..

Do the same on volume G:

if you have a Error,
Post back.........

As I said in my other post, I checked G: on Friday before the VolSnap.
What I didn't mention is that I also checked C: (with /f) and rebooted
sometime during the day on Friday. No errors on either, except I recall
a few indexing problems that were fixed. I just reran the G: chkdsk
(because it doesn't require a reboot) and it was clean.
 
D

Dennis

On 3/3/2012 12:41 PM, Dennis wrote:
On Sat, 3 Mar 2012 17:29:55 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"

In message<[email protected]>, Dennis
Every Friday night I leave my notebook PC turned on and I schedule all
my system maintenance programs to run (not concurrently). Lately, when I
get up on Saturday morning, I find the PC in a frozen state. I must hold
down the power on/off button until the system shuts down, then press
again for a restart.

A look at the Event Viewer shows the following as the last Application
or System event before the restart (which took place at 6:27 AM this
morning)...
[]
The shadow copy of volume G: was aborted because of a failed free space
computation.
[]
Any ideas as to what might be causing the system to freeze?

Could the message about there not being space to copy volume G: be
correct? That shouldn't IMO cause a system lockup, but is worth
investigating ... and, if you _are_ running low on space, that may cause
problems with other things.

The G: drive is a 2 TB external USB drive with approx 500 GB free. I use
this drive for my disk images.

How large is the drive you are trying to backup and all? If you are only
backing up 4GB, obviously something is wrong. If you are trying to
backup 250GB or greater, you could be running out of room counting the
whole backup plus temp files which could be as much as 250GB extra itself.

Although I said this is the drive I use for images of my primary drive
(120 GB), the Acronis disk image is finished long before this error
occurs.

Here is my schedule for Friday nights:

10PM - Acronis runs for about 50 minutes
midnite - MBAM runs (don't have the runtime because I deleted the logs
after looking at them this morning, but I don't believe it is
still running at 3:30AM)
3:30AM - Avira starts
5:30AM - VolSnap occurs

I scheduled MBAM last night just to get the run time. It started at
12:01AM and ran for roughly 2.5 hours. So it should have finished well
before Avira started.

Tonite I will schedule Avira all by itself to see if the VolSnap occurs.

No VolSnap last night. I'll just wait to see what happens this Friday
night when my regular routine next takes place.
 
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