XP and Vista Networking Issue

[Guest]

I have two computers running on a home network. One is on Windows XP Media
and the Other is on Windows Vista Basic. They are both running on a wired
ethernet network that runs through a net gear switch with a motorola cable
modem plugged into the switch. Both computers were on XP previously and
networked and and one got an upgrade. Both computers can still access the
internet. The XP computer doesn't see the Vista computer at all. The Vista
computer shows the XP computer in the network map, but does not read it as
part of the network. I am unable to communicate between the two or share
printing. I have checked and rechecked all of my firewall and network
settings. I have renamed the workgroups twice to match. I have done
everything that I can find on the help and in the discussions and can't it to
work. Attached is my IP Config and browstat for both. Please help I can't
figure out what is wrong.

XP Media SP2 Computer

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : DJ78VR81

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No


Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network
Connection

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-12-3F-A9-4C-71

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 74.211.77.155

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.254.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 74.211.76.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 74.211.15.198

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 74.211.89.200

74.211.89.201

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, July 22, 2007 2:22:18 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, July 23, 2007 3:41:31 AM

Browstat

Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B4A5E9BC-3CAE-490F-A086-D222A4807557}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: DJ78VR81
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master DJ78VR81
\\DJ78VR81
There are 1 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B4A5E9BC-3CAE-490F-A086-D222A4807557}
There are 1 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B4A5E9BC-3CAE-490F-A086-D222A4807557}

Vista Home Basic Computer

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : YOUR-F024F6B959
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-16-76-CD-AF-DC
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 74.211.68.180(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.248.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, July 22, 2007 2:24:10 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, July 23, 2007 12:47:39 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 74.211.64.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 74.211.15.198
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 74.211.89.200
74.211.89.201
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection*:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
isatap.{052C60CA-C1BA-41C1-B616-FE8F212B2E90}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::200:5efe:74.211.68.180%10(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 74.211.89.200
74.211.89.201
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2002:4ad3:44b4::4ad3:44b4(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 2002:c058:6301::c058:6301
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 74.211.89.200
74.211.89.201
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 10:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
2001:0:4136:e38c:10e4:2ca7:b52c:bb4b(Preferred)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::10e4:2ca7:b52c:bb4b%9(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Browstat

Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{052C60CA-C1BA-41C1-B616-FE8F212B2E90}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: YOUR-F024F6B959
Master browser is running build 6000
1 backup servers retrieved from master YOUR-F024F6B959
\\YOUR-F024F6B959
Unable to retrieve server list from YOUR-F024F6B959: 1130

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

I have two computers running on a home network. One is on Windows XP Media
and the Other is on Windows Vista Basic. They are both running on a wired
ethernet network that runs through a net gear switch with a motorola cable
modem plugged into the switch. Both computers were on XP previously and
networked and and one got an upgrade. Both computers can still access the
internet. The XP computer doesn't see the Vista computer at all. The Vista
computer shows the XP computer in the network map, but does not read it as
part of the network. I am unable to communicate between the two or share
printing. I have checked and rechecked all of my firewall and network
settings. I have renamed the workgroups twice to match. I have done
everything that I can find on the help and in the discussions and can't it to
work. Attached is my IP Config and browstat for both. Please help I can't
figure out what is wrong.

XP Media SP2 Computer

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : DJ78VR81
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-12-3F-A9-4C-71
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 74.211.77.155
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.254.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 74.211.76.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 74.211.15.198
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 74.211.89.200
74.211.89.201

Vista Home Basic Computer

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : YOUR-F024F6B959
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-16-76-CD-AF-DC
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 74.211.68.180(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.248.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, July 22, 2007 2:24:10 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, July 23, 2007 12:47:39 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 74.211.64.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 74.211.15.198
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 74.211.89.200
74.211.89.201
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

I've edited your message to show only the relevant parts.

Your computers receive public IP addresses from your Internet service
provider (Beyondbb.com?). There are two problems with this:

1. It's unsafe to enable File and Printer Sharing with public IP
addresses, because other Internet users might be able to access your
computers.

2. Based on the assigned IP addresses and subnet masks, the computers
are in different subnets and, therefore, can't communicate with each
other using TCP/IP.

The solution to both problems is to get a home broadband router and
connect it between your broadband modem and the computers:

1. The router will assign private IP addresses to the computers,
preventing other Internet users from accessing them.

2. The computers will have private IP addresses in the same subnet,
allowing them to communicate with each other.

With a broadband router, you'll only need to get one public IP address
from your ISP. That will save money if you're now paying a monthly
fee for a second IP address.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

 

[Guest]

I know I sound like a complete idiot here but does my netgear switch not do
the same thing?

 

[Malke]

I know I sound like a complete idiot here but does my netgear switch not do
the same thing?

No. A switch is not a router.


Malke

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

I know I sound like a complete idiot here but does my netgear switch not do
the same thing?

No, it doesn't. A switch lets you connect multiple devices to a
single network, but it doesn't perform the routing functions that you
need to solve the two problems.

Replace the switch with a broadband router. Connect the cable modem
to the router's WAN (Internet) port. Connect the computers to the
router's LAN ports.

A router will act like a switch, without performing routing functions
(and without solving the two problems) if you connect the cable modem
to a LAN port instead of the WAN port.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

 

[RalfG]

In your setup all the switch does is allow both computers to access the
cable modem. To have it work the way you want the cable modem would need to
have routing capabilities and the two computers have their IPs set in the
same
private subnet.

Eg.

Cable Modem w/routing ---- gets IP from ISP--- 74.211.68.180
|
---------------Switch---------------------|
|
PC 1- IP 192.168.0.5 PC 2 - IP 192.168.0.10

I had much the same configuration at one time, using an ADSL modem that does
have routing capabilities built in.

Or as already suggested, replace the switch with a broadband router and
dispense with the second cable account as well.

 

[Guest]

I am having the same issue, but I am using a router. Although my Vista
product is a laptop over a wireless network.

 

[Lem]

Well, it might if your "Netgear switch" was a router. There is a lot of
loose language when it comes to describing networking hardware. What is
the model of your Netgear box?

 

[RalfG]

Assuming TCP/IP and file and printer sharing are set up correctly for the
LAN, you'd need to look at software firewalls and any AV software that might
act like a firewall blocking communications between PCs.

I don't know enough about Vista settings but XP Pro (MCE is also Pro) might
require that you set up a common user account on both computers in order to
access its shares.

 

[Akin]

Well, it might if your "Netgear switch" was a router. There is a lot of
loose language when it comes to describing networking hardware. What is
the model of your Netgear box?




--
Lem MS MVP -- Networking

To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
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I have a similar issue with a different twist. I have a notebook running
Vista Basic and a desktop running XP Home Edition. Both have the latest
patches. I am running a home network through a linksys wireless router
although the desktop and internet connection are hardwired to the router.

With this setup, I have file and printer sharing turned on and both
computers can "see" each other and the files that are set up for sharing, but
the Vista notebook cannot access the folders or files on the XP Desktop. I
get the error stating that I do not have access permission. On the other
hand, the XP Desktop can access the share folders on the Vista notebook.
Oddly, the Vista notebook can also print on the printer connected to the XP
Desktop.

I have checked and rechecked all of the network settings that I can think of
to no avail. I am hoping someone can give me an answer.

 

[James Egan]

I have checked and rechecked all of the network settings that I can think of
to no avail. I am hoping someone can give me an answer.

If you give "everyone" permission to access the files it means all
users listed on that computer, not everyone in the world on other
computers.

Use matching usernames on both machines and/or consider mapping drives
via batch file with a stated username password combo. eg

net use j: \\laptop\sharename "" /USER:jim

"" put a password between the quotes if there is one



Jim.