Xbox 360 is 'better' than PS3. it has more RAM memory

[Guest]

something that most people seem to be overlooking when comparing
Playstation3 to Xbox 360
-- the Xbox 360 has more total RAM memory than PS3.

Xbox 360 has 522 MB RAM total: 512 MB + 10 MB EDRAM

Playstation3 has 512 MB total: 256 MB + 256 MB


this alone makes Xbox 360 better, as far as its hardware.

there are other areas where Xbox 360 seems totally superior to PS3, such as
memory bandwidth, thanks to that EDRAM, but looking at the amount of RAM
alone, I don't see how PS3 can be stronger than Xbox 360. RAM means more
than almost anything. more than nonsense Gflops numbers or other
theoretical specs. RAM amount is a hard, provable, solid measure. there
is no denying that Xbox 360 has more memory than PS3. Also, Xbox360's
GDDR3 memory is the same memory than PS3 uses on the GPU side of its memory.
The other half of PS3's memory, the Rambus XDR memory, is totally unproven
(like Cell) and could have HORRIBLE latency problems as Rambus has a history
of having bad latency issues with its RAM. it was true of the Nintendo64 and
the Playstation2 which both used Rambus DRAM.


how could Sony, who is claiming that PS3 is twice as powerful as Xbox360,
put LESS RAM memory into their console, than a supposedly weaker console?
does not make sense.

 

[Paul Heslop]

IF one of the systems is better than the other then those that buy it
will be happy, but you know and I know that none of this crap people
keep posting is going to make any difference to anyone who has a
like/dislike for a company and all it does is show certain people to
be obsessed with winning or being the best or my dad's bigger than
your dad. WHEN they come out buy the one you want and shut the bloody
hell up!!!!!!!!

 

[Jarle Hrafn Grindhaug]

how could Sony, who is claiming that PS3 is twice as powerful as Xbox360,
put LESS RAM memory into their console, than a supposedly weaker console?
does not make sense.

Do you really think 10mb more ram will make ANY difference?

..Jarle

 

[Chris H.]

People do this all the time, Paul. I remember back when I was 7 or 8 years
old and the friends around the neighborhood used to argue Ford vs. Chevy, or
even whether it should be Chevy vs. Ford. Or there shouldn't be any
comparison because (fill in a name) was so much better.

It is the competitive world. And that's why major league baseball started
the inter-league play with "rivals weekend" or whatever they're calling it.
Nothing better than bragging rights on something, even gaming consoles,
whereas other "normal" people might think Cal vs. Stanford, Arizona vs.
Arizona State or Notre Dame vs. USC is THE GAME.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -

 

[Per W.]

something that most people seem to be overlooking when comparing
Playstation3 to Xbox 360
-- the Xbox 360 has more total RAM memory than PS3.

Xbox 360 has 522 MB RAM total: 512 MB + 10 MB EDRAM

Playstation3 has 512 MB total: 256 MB + 256 MB


this alone makes Xbox 360 better, as far as its hardware.

DORK.

/Per W.

 

[Per W.]

Do you really think 10mb more ram will make ANY difference?

Think the big difference it would has been if his father used a condome?

/Per W.

 

[Xen*]

Do you really think 10mb more ram will make ANY difference?

sure if in this 10 MB the framebuffer fit and it was eDRAM witch a bandwitch
of 256 GB/s
this means Blending, Stencil Shadows, Anti Aliasing per free, as like all
the other operations on the framebuffer

the only AA in a more standard structure as is RSX, can cause a performance
hit between 35-60% on the final frame per seconds ratio

 

[Xen*]

<blazinglazer> ha scritto nel messaggio

PLEASE stop crossposting!

 

[Paul Heslop]

People do this all the time, Paul. I remember back when I was 7 or 8 years
old and the friends around the neighborhood used to argue Ford vs. Chevy, or
even whether it should be Chevy vs. Ford. Or there shouldn't be any
comparison because (fill in a name) was so much better.

It is the competitive world. And that's why major league baseball started
the inter-league play with "rivals weekend" or whatever they're calling it.
Nothing better than bragging rights on something, even gaming consoles,
whereas other "normal" people might think Cal vs. Stanford, Arizona vs.
Arizona State or Notre Dame vs. USC is THE GAME.
--

I know, but they really seem to think that by posting some flame
against a certain company they can change our minds.

 

[Paul Heslop]

Think the big difference it would has been if his father used a condome?

/Per W.

oh, now I feel so sad... maybe he did and it burst?

 

[Guest]

sure if in this 10 MB the framebuffer fit and it was eDRAM witch a
bandwitch of 256 GB/s
this means Blending, Stencil Shadows, Anti Aliasing per free, as like all
the other operations on the framebuffer

the only AA in a more standard structure as is RSX, can cause a
performance hit between 35-60% on the final frame per seconds ratio

thanks - this is more or less true. the small amount of memory that Xbox
360 has *beyond* the PS3, the 10 MegaBytes, is of tremendous significance
because it is HYPER fast eDRAM with 32 GB/sec between it and the GPU core,
and internally, 256 GB/sec between eDRAM and the logic on the eDRAM module.

PS3 has no equivalent whatsoever. this is really funny, because in the
current generation, it is the PS2 that has the high-bandwidth eDRAM and the
Xbox that lacks it. now things have reversed. how Sony could **** up like
this is beyond me. yes it really matters for GAMES. when you can take
the stress off the main memory bus and have all the huge bandwidth draining
functions done on hyper fast embedded memory, it makes a big difference.
that is one of the main reasons why both PS2 and Gamecube games often have
smoother framerates than Xbox games, dispite the claim that Xbox is so much
more powerful than the other two -- eDRAM on PS2's GS and Gamecube's
Flipper make all the difference. the NV2A GPU in Xbox lacks eDRAM so all
the heavy rendering operations are using up Xbox's main memory bandwidth.

now the Xbox 360 is the one that has eDRAM and PS3 does not.

 

[Guest]

DORK.

/Per W.

Do You Feel Better About Yourself Now, Per ?

 

[Chris H.]

Or topping the previous flame. There are so many more creative and
beneficial things to be done in life.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -

 

[Per W.]

Do You Feel Better About Yourself Now, Per ?

Try to get a keyboard without capital letter in every word.

/Per W.

 

[Paul Heslop]

Or topping the previous flame. There are so many more creative and
beneficial things to be done in life.

They could try getting one to start with :O)

 

[Rob Berryhill]

something that most people seem to be overlooking when comparing
Playstation3 to Xbox 360
-- the Xbox 360 has more total RAM memory than PS3.

Xbox 360 has 522 MB RAM total: 512 MB + 10 MB EDRAM

Playstation3 has 512 MB total: 256 MB + 256 MB

Actually, I'm *very* surprised they both went with such a low amount of
RAM. THis is supposed to be good for the next 5 years or so and already
1GB of RAM is pretty much a requirement on the PC front. Not having the
consoles ship with 1GB is a huge mistake IMO.

 

[Scream]

People do this all the time, Paul. I remember back when I was 7 or 8
years old and the friends around the neighborhood used to argue Ford vs.
Chevy, or even whether it should be Chevy vs. Ford.

Honda rules them both. ;-)

 

[Dr Gordon Crowbar]

oh, now I feel so sad... maybe he did and it burst?

And the drips got licked up by a monkey on heat.

 

[Paul Heslop]

Honda rules them both. ;-)

Nah, Nissan... there's a factory over the river :O)

 

[Paul Heslop]

"Jarle Hrafn Grindhaug" <jarle@[nospamingfilter]spiderman.no> skrev i
melding

how could Sony, who is claiming that PS3 is twice as powerful as
Xbox360,
put LESS RAM memory into their console, than a supposedly weaker
console?
does not make sense.

Do you really think 10mb more ram will make ANY difference?

Think the big difference it would has been if his father used a condome?

/Per W.

oh, now I feel so sad... maybe he did and it burst?

And the drips got licked up by a monkey on heat.

poor monkey... all that poison