X800xl or X850pro Which is better choice???

[TG]

I can buy an X850pro for $250.00 (usd) or is an X800xl a better choice for
about the same money or just a little more? Both are AGP and I don't plan to
jump to PCIe any time soon. I don't see a lot of difference other than 12
vs. 16 pipelines.

Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!!!!!!

 

[First of One]

Indeed, 12 vs 16 pipes, or 33% performance difference in
fillrate-constrained situations (high res w/ FSAA). Go for the X800XL.

 

[Praxiteles Democritus]

I can tell you this I wouldnt waste the money to go agp anymore. PCIe
x16 provides so much more bandwith potential to allow card to run
better.

"Potential" being the key word. I bought an X800XL AGP because I'm not
buying a new mb just for a video card when the PCI-E and AGP versions
perform the same right now. When PCI-E a shows performance increase
over AGP then I will get new mb and PCI-E card. Actually, I plan to
get that Uli mb that has both PCI-E and AGP when I do my next upgrade
so I can go PCI-E later when it shows a performance increase over AGP
but still use my AGP card for now.

 

[Derek Baker]

"Potential" being the key word. I bought an X800XL AGP because I'm not
buying a new mb just for a video card when the PCI-E and AGP versions
perform the same right now. When PCI-E a shows performance increase
over AGP then I will get new mb and PCI-E card.

They'll have probably stopped making AGP cards by the time that happens.

 

[Flow]

x850pro is slightly faster,keeping at pace since it costs a little extra in
stores.
The 12 vs 16 pipes is relative,since the x850 is clocked higher.
Already i have read many stories about users not able to overclock their
x800xl much,ofcourse there are also users who does oc without problems.
Look at it like this : you can choose between 2 different engines who will
run about just as fast.
And neither of them will outrun the other sooner nor later.
On a side note,i can clock my x850pro at 570 core and 1220 memory.
So you wanna buy on a budget? get the x800xl , it's a good deal.
If the x850pro is cheaper then go for that,but don't be fooled by the
pipeline hype.

 

[Praxiteles Democritus]

x850pro is slightly faster,keeping at pace since it costs a little extra in
stores.
The 12 vs 16 pipes is relative,since the x850 is clocked higher.
Already i have read many stories about users not able to overclock their
x800xl much,ofcourse there are also users who does oc without problems.
Look at it like this : you can choose between 2 different engines who will
run about just as fast.
And neither of them will outrun the other sooner nor later.
On a side note,i can clock my x850pro at 570 core and 1220 memory.
So you wanna buy on a budget? get the x800xl , it's a good deal.
If the x850pro is cheaper then go for that,but don't be fooled by the
pipeline hype.

Wrong, look up the benchmarks.

[Slowest to fastest]
# Radeon X800
# Radeon X800 Pro
# Radeon X850 Pro
# Radeon X800 XL
# Radeon X800 XT
# Radeon X850 XT
# Radeon X800 XT PE
# Radeon X850 XT PE

 

[Flow]

x850pro is slightly faster,keeping at pace since it costs a little extra in
stores.
The 12 vs 16 pipes is relative,since the x850 is clocked higher.
Already i have read many stories about users not able to overclock their
x800xl much,ofcourse there are also users who does oc without problems.
Look at it like this : you can choose between 2 different engines who will
run about just as fast.
And neither of them will outrun the other sooner nor later.
On a side note,i can clock my x850pro at 570 core and 1220 memory.
So you wanna buy on a budget? get the x800xl , it's a good deal.
If the x850pro is cheaper then go for that,but don't be fooled by the
pipeline hype.

Wrong, look up the benchmarks.

[Slowest to fastest]
# Radeon X800
# Radeon X800 Pro
# Radeon X850 Pro
# Radeon X800 XL
# Radeon X800 XT
# Radeon X850 XT
# Radeon X800 XT PE
# Radeon X850 XT PE

I have

 

[Flow]

extra

in

stores.
The 12 vs 16 pipes is relative,since the x850 is clocked higher.
Already i have read many stories about users not able to overclock their
x800xl much,ofcourse there are also users who does oc without problems.
Look at it like this : you can choose between 2 different engines who will
run about just as fast.
And neither of them will outrun the other sooner nor later.
On a side note,i can clock my x850pro at 570 core and 1220 memory.
So you wanna buy on a budget? get the x800xl , it's a good deal.
If the x850pro is cheaper then go for that,but don't be fooled by the
pipeline hype.

Wrong, look up the benchmarks.

[Slowest to fastest]
# Radeon X800
# Radeon X800 Pro
# Radeon X850 Pro
# Radeon X800 XL
# Radeon X800 XT
# Radeon X850 XT
# Radeon X800 XT PE
# Radeon X850 XT PE

I have

Ahem,sorry,i was thinking you meant benchmarks on various websites but you

mean your list..
Hm,debating this is without an end.
So lets settle that they perform on par.
But i know that i'm right,although it's only a minor difference.
It's also pointless to use certain game results since there is an instance
where a radeon9800pro beats a x800pro in UT,demo:fallencity,assault.

 

[DaveW]

Which motherboard and CPU are you using?

 

[Flow]

I just noticed here in holland an asus ATI Radeon X800 XT Platinum agp card
can be bought for 249 euro.
Seems prices are comming down big time!
So i would advice to wait a little and get some real value for the same
money.

 

[First of One]

That looks like an awfully low price for an X800XT-PE. All such cards at
Newegg selling below $350 are refurbished...

 

[Shawk]

That looks like an awfully low price for an X800XT-PE. All such cards at
Newegg selling below $350 are refurbished...

I'm waiting for my ASUS X800XT PE TDV from OC.UK for £187 (inc VAT) - that's
about $344USD. All are brand new retail not OEM. It's a 'This week only'
deal. Offer ends tonight.

Sweet...

 

[D. Gitters]

You could buy the X850Pro with its 12 Pipes and flash the Bios to make it an
X850XL with a 16 pipe cranking.


Thats what I did.

Worked like a charm.
You can find every thing you need to do it here:
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/100