WYSIWYG PHP web page editor?

A

attorneyatlaw

Hi. I am a bit of a novice but I need to edit web pages using WYSIWYG
-- something very similar to frontpage although not necessarily as
powerful. However, here is the catch: the web pages are saved in .PHP
format.

Is there a freeware WySIWYG PHP editing program? Basically, I want the
program to load a .php web page, show exactly how it will be displayed
in my web browser and allow me to make some changes?

Any info is MUCH appreciated.
 
H

heldmar

I'm afradi to say I'm been looking for the same and have never found
anything really good to stay with in this matter. I can't leave
Macromedia Dreamweaver for any freeware editor because no one offers me
what DW does. NVU es a WYSIWYG editor freeware which looks really cool
indeed BUT it generates unwanted code in your web page, if you don´t
care about the code (and if you're going to code in PHP Im sure you do)
then use NVU if not.....keep with Macromedia DW which is indeed better
than Frontpage.
 
W

wald

heldmar said:
NVU es a WYSIWYG editor freeware
which looks really cool indeed BUT it generates unwanted code in
your web page,

Can you explain some more about this? What kind of unwanted code?

Thanks,
Wald
 
R

Roger Hunt

I am thinking of transfering the term "WYSIWYG" to humans.

.... but not politicians surely? Mind you, I've always wondered what the
"W" in George W Bush stands for. :)
 
K

kenny

After numerous rounds of "We don't even know if Osama is still alive,"
Osama himself decided to send George Bush a letter in his own handwriting
to let him know he was still in the game.

Bush opened the letter and it appeared to contain a single line of coded
message:
370HSSV-0773H

Bush was baffled, so he e-mailed it to Condi Rice. Condi and her aides had
no clue either, so they sent it to the FBI.
No one could solve it at the FBI so it went to the CIA, then to the NSA.

With no clue as to its meaning they eventually asked Britain's MI-6 for
help.

Within a minute MI-6 cabled the White House with this reply:
"Tell the President he's holding the message upside down"
 
C

Craig

wald said:
Can you explain some more about this? What kind of unwanted code?

Thanks, Wald

The best explanation that I've found of this is from the lead s/w
engineer for N|vu, Daniel Glazman:
Nvu is based on Gecko, Mozilla's layout engine, and Gecko includes a
real HTML parser, not a text-based file-open-read. A document is
PARSED in the sense of SGML/XML when it is read, and there is NO
OTHER way of opening a marked-up document inside Gecko.


This leads to a couple of behaviors that can drive the non-casual user
to distraction:

- reformatting of code
- insertion (or replacement) of statements (ie DOCTYPES, <br>, etc)

You can read up on this in some excruciating detail at forum.nvudev.org.
Fwiw, N|vu is a very nice, open-source, cross-platform WYSIWYG
web-editor for those with no-to-moderate experience in web design.

regards,
Craig
 
R

Roger Hunt

After numerous rounds of "We don't even know if Osama is still alive,"
Osama himself decided to send George Bush a letter in his own handwriting
to let him know he was still in the game.

Bush opened the letter and it appeared to contain a single line of coded
message:
370HSSV-0773H

Bush was baffled, so he e-mailed it to Condi Rice. Condi and her aides had
no clue either, so they sent it to the FBI.
No one could solve it at the FBI so it went to the CIA, then to the NSA.

With no clue as to its meaning they eventually asked Britain's MI-6 for
help.

Within a minute MI-6 cabled the White House with this reply:
"Tell the President he's holding the message upside down"
Excellent!
 
A

Al Klein

Hi. I am a bit of a novice but I need to edit web pages using WYSIWYG
-- something very similar to frontpage although not necessarily as
powerful. However, here is the catch: the web pages are saved in .PHP
format.

You don't save web pages in "php format", you save php code in php
files. These files, when they run, produce html that gets sent to a
browser to be rendered. The "wysiwyg interpreter" for php would have
to be a web server (and one that can interpret php - not all of them
do) talking to a web browser. (PHP is server-side code, and wysiwyg is
client-side interpretation of html.)
Is there a freeware WySIWYG PHP editing program? Basically, I want the
program to load a .php web page, show exactly how it will be displayed
in my web browser and allow me to make some changes?

Probably will never be done in freeware. Might eventually be done in
a large commercial product like Dreamweaver. It's too much to expect
a freeware product to incorporate a php-capable server and a browser
in one program.
 
W

wald

Craig said:
The best explanation that I've found of this is from the lead
s/w engineer for N|vu, Daniel Glazman:


This leads to a couple of behaviors that can drive the
non-casual user to distraction:

- reformatting of code
- insertion (or replacement) of statements (ie DOCTYPES, <br>,
etc)

You can read up on this in some excruciating detail at
forum.nvudev.org.

Thanks for the info. I must admit, I've tried NVU in the pre-1.0
stages and I've noticed these things too. Then again, I avoid
WYSIWYG for anything serious, so not really a problem for me
personally.
Fwiw, N|vu is a very nice, open-source, cross-platform WYSIWYG
web-editor for those with no-to-moderate experience in web
design.

Agreed. In any case, its output is as close as you can get to web
standards in the WYSIWYG world. That by itself is reason enough to
stick with NVU for less-experienced web developers.

Regards,
wald
 

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