WYSIs NOT WYG! with CSS absolute positioning in FP2000...

[Guest]

When I use CSS absolute positioning in FP2000, I notice that the WYSIWIG
"Normal" display looks awful. Elements are scattered all over the page, and
Normal mode basically ignores any such CSS. This drawback makes it extremely
cumbersome to work with any document that rely on CSS absolute positioning.

Does FP2003 have better display in Normal mode of such elements?

- JC

 

[Mark Fitzpatrick]

Yes, FP 2003 is much better than FP 2000. You have to keep in mind, CSS
positioning adoption at that point in time was pretty pathetic as
positioning was actually introduced in CSS 2, which wasn't even finalized
until February of 2004. FP 2000 still had a lot of artifacts from earlier
parts of the FP editor but FP 2003 is a lot better at visualizing
positioning than 2000.

Hope this helps,
Mark Fitzpatrick
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

 

[Guest]

Yes, Mark - it did help - many thanks! I recently purchased a used copy of FP
2000, but I am now thinking about FP2003 for the reasons you mentioned. I
stumbled upon a fascinating CSS example on www.sitepoint.com, "Getting The
Lay of The Land," which really turned me on to the value of CSS. But when I
tried the absolute positioning examples out on FP2000, I was pretty
disappointed with how they ended up looking in WYSIWYG (Normal) mode.

I've checked out a few WYSIWYG editors as well, including WebDwarf, which
showed some promise. But none are perfect... I am already quite familiar with
MS Office products and so I think I'd like to stick it out with FP for a
while.

Thanks again for the reply...

- JC

 

[karen]

What I see on my screen is not what others see on their screen! I've put all
my text and photos into layers so that they stay in one place and on my
screen, everything is perfectly centralised.

However, when looking at my website on another monitor, the contents are
half off the screen. What I want to know is how do other website producers,
get the perfect finish, no matter what size screen you look at? I'm using
fp2003.
Thanks

KM

 

[Murray]

everything is perfectly centralised.

You think? I don't. Try resizing the text display in the browser now -
your page will travel quickly down the slippery slope.

What I want to know is how do other website producers,
get the perfect finish, no matter what size screen you look at?

http://apptools.com/examples/pagelayout101.php

 

[Patricia Geary]

They may use a fluid layout which uses percentages for the containers or
table width. That way when the viewer resizes his or her screen, the page
resizes to fit the browser space. It will only resize so far before falling
apart. I usually design for 800x600 as the smallest resolution. Even though
someone may have a big 22 inch monitor, they are probalby not browsing with
the screen full size. The also may use a fixed resolution that will fit in a
certain window size.

See http://www.htmlbasictutor.ca/flexible-liquid-design.htm

and if you want to look under the hood at how it is done,
http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/css-layouts/index.htm

click on any of the templates and view the source code to see how it is
done. You can also view the style sheets to see how the various elements are
laid out.

pat