Wow... Windows... Looking for definitive answer

[jamieduncan66]

OK,

I'm an old Mac/Linux person, and I'm used to computers doing what I ask
them to and not being rude about it. So much for that! For reasons
defying explanation here, I am now running a desktop and a laptop with
Windows XP Pro. The desktop is the machine in question with SP2
"properly installed" per the little Update wizard genie.

The machine is an HP-Compaq, 2.53 ghz P4. I have the proper OS disk
provided by HP.

My problem:

I want to install IIS. When I go to do this through the Control Panels
(or through the CD autostart menu) it starts to copy the files and then
says to install the cd b/c it can't find a file. I browse to that
folder and lo and behold, THERE'S THE FILE IT'S LOOKING FOR. It
doesn't care, apparently that's not the one it wants.

So I download Nlite (per some discussion board researd), and I
stripsleam in SP2 (the entire 266 MB download!). Thinking my problem
is solved, and I can install IIS and get on with my life, I make a cd.
It appears to work perfectly.

I ask it to install IIS (very nicely I might add)...

EXACT SAME PROBLEM.

OK, so what's the deal here? I've been out of the Microsoft loop for
too long to troubleshoot ignorance at this level. Can someone up to
date on this stuff give me a hand?

Thanks!!

 

[Shenan Stanley]

I'm an old Mac/Linux person, and I'm used to computers doing what I
ask them to and not being rude about it. So much for that! For
reasons defying explanation here, I am now running a desktop and a
laptop with Windows XP Pro. The desktop is the machine in question
with SP2 "properly installed" per the little Update wizard genie.

The machine is an HP-Compaq, 2.53 ghz P4. I have the proper OS disk
provided by HP.

My problem:

I want to install IIS. When I go to do this through the Control
Panels (or through the CD autostart menu) it starts to copy the
files and then says to install the cd b/c it can't find a file. I
browse to that folder and lo and behold, THERE'S THE FILE IT'S
LOOKING FOR. It doesn't care, apparently that's not the one it
wants.

So I download Nlite (per some discussion board researd), and I
stripsleam in SP2 (the entire 266 MB download!). Thinking my
problem is solved, and I can install IIS and get on with my life, I
make a cd. It appears to work perfectly.

I ask it to install IIS (very nicely I might add)...

EXACT SAME PROBLEM.

OK, so what's the deal here? I've been out of the Microsoft loop
for too long to troubleshoot ignorance at this level. Can someone
up to date on this stuff give me a hand?

First - try this.. Start button --> RUN and type in:

esentutl /p %windir%\security\database\secedit.sdb

OK.

Try your installation again.

 

[jamie duncan]

First - try this.. Start button --> RUN and type in:

esentutl /p %windir%\security\database\secedit.sdb

OK.

Try your installation again.

I verfied the security database before I tried the "customized install
cd" solution. Thanks, though.

I understand that you need the correct version of a file to install
something, but this is just loopy! If both I AND the computer can see
the file sitting there, why won't it recognize it and let me move
forward with both of our lives?

Thanks again for any additional input!

 

[Donald McDaniel]

OK,

I'm an old Mac/Linux person, and I'm used to computers doing what I ask
them to and not being rude about it. So much for that! For reasons
defying explanation here, I am now running a desktop and a laptop with
Windows XP Pro. The desktop is the machine in question with SP2
"properly installed" per the little Update wizard genie.

The machine is an HP-Compaq, 2.53 ghz P4. I have the proper OS disk
provided by HP.

My problem:

I want to install IIS. When I go to do this through the Control Panels
(or through the CD autostart menu) it starts to copy the files and then
says to install the cd b/c it can't find a file. I browse to that
folder and lo and behold, THERE'S THE FILE IT'S LOOKING FOR. It
doesn't care, apparently that's not the one it wants.

So I download Nlite (per some discussion board researd), and I
stripsleam in SP2 (the entire 266 MB download!). Thinking my problem
is solved, and I can install IIS and get on with my life, I make a cd.
It appears to work perfectly.

I ask it to install IIS (very nicely I might add)...

EXACT SAME PROBLEM.

OK, so what's the deal here? I've been out of the Microsoft loop for
too long to troubleshoot ignorance at this level. Can someone up to
date on this stuff give me a hand?

Thanks!!

I have been told (more than once) by so-called MVPs, that IIS can only
be installed in XP Professional. If your HP-Compaq OEM of XP is Home
Edition, you will not be able to install IIS. This may be because
Home Edition is unable to join a domain. Or it may be some other
reason.


==

Donald L McDaniel
Please Reply to the Original Thread.
========================================================

 

[Shenan Stanley]

jamieduncan66

I'm an old Mac/Linux person, and I'm used to computers doing what
I ask them to and not being rude about it. So much for that! For
reasons defying explanation here, I am now running a desktop and a
laptop with Windows XP Pro. The desktop is the machine in
question with SP2 "properly installed" per the little Update
wizard genie.

The machine is an HP-Compaq, 2.53 ghz P4. I have the proper OS
disk provided by HP.

My problem:

I want to install IIS. When I go to do this through the Control
Panels (or through the CD autostart menu) it starts to copy the
files and then says to install the cd b/c it can't find a file. I
browse to that folder and lo and behold, THERE'S THE FILE IT'S
LOOKING FOR. It doesn't care, apparently that's not the one it
wants.

So I download Nlite (per some discussion board researd), and I
stripsleam in SP2 (the entire 266 MB download!). Thinking my
problem is solved, and I can install IIS and get on with my life,
I make a cd. It appears to work perfectly.

I ask it to install IIS (very nicely I might add)...

EXACT SAME PROBLEM.

OK, so what's the deal here? I've been out of the Microsoft loop
for too long to troubleshoot ignorance at this level. Can someone
up to date on this stuff give me a hand?

Thanks!!

I have been told (more than once) by so-called MVPs, that IIS can
only be installed in XP Professional. If your HP-Compaq OEM of XP
is Home Edition, you will not be able to install IIS. This may be
because Home Edition is unable to join a domain. Or it may be some
other reason.

First off - what does XP Home have to do with this thread? Third sentence
says, "... I am now running a desktop and a laptop with Windows XP Pro..."
That pretty much eliminates the need for any discussion about Windows XP
Home Edition in this thread.

Secondly - a simple google search will show that the answer to the "Can I
install IIS on Windows XP Home Edition" is actually no.. with caveats. In
fact I answered this question for someone in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general 3 days ago.. with:

-----
A *sure* way? No.

You could use some other web server software - but IIS is a "professional"
product.. Available on Windows XP Professional and Windows server products.
It is *not* available for Windows XP Home Edition.

You can try one of the many sites (Google is great - should try it!) that
claim to have the answer you seek, for example:
http://www.15seconds.com/issue/020118.htm
or
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Web/Q_20844896.html

Otherwise, you could use something like Apache or one of the many other web
servers out there. Last I read, Apache did not DIRECTLY support ASP, but
with the correct "add-on", it supports it as well as IIS.

ChiliASP
http://wwws.sun.com/software/chilisoft/index.html

Apache::ASP
http://www.apache-asp.org/

mod_mono
http://go-mono.com/archive/xsp-0.10.html

 

[jamie duncan]

jamieduncan66



First off - what does XP Home have to do with this thread? Third sentence
says, "... I am now running a desktop and a laptop with Windows XP Pro..."
That pretty much eliminates the need for any discussion about Windows XP
Home Edition in this thread.

Secondly - a simple google search will show that the answer to the "Can I
install IIS on Windows XP Home Edition" is actually no.. with caveats. In
fact I answered this question for someone in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general 3 days ago.. with:

-----
A *sure* way? No.

You could use some other web server software - but IIS is a "professional"
product.. Available on Windows XP Professional and Windows server products.
It is *not* available for Windows XP Home Edition.

You can try one of the many sites (Google is great - should try it!) that
claim to have the answer you seek, for example:
http://www.15seconds.com/issue/020118.htm
or
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Web/Q_20844896.html

Otherwise, you could use something like Apache or one of the many other web
servers out there. Last I read, Apache did not DIRECTLY support ASP, but
with the correct "add-on", it supports it as well as IIS.

ChiliASP
http://wwws.sun.com/software/chilisoft/index.html

Apache::ASP
http://www.apache-asp.org/

mod_mono
http://go-mono.com/archive/xsp-0.10.html
-----

So, the complete answer for your complaint/issue (that you included in this
thread for some reason) is the above. It really has nothing to do with its
ability to join a domain. It's just a limitation of Windows XP Home.

Thanks. I tried several solutions. Mostly variations on "fixing" said
security database and slipstreaming together an SP2 cd, and a few other
things I found on message boards, etc.

The best solution I found? Apache 2.2 for Windows. Set it up in 20
minutes, including download time. 79% of the internet can't be wrong
(?)

I was hoping to incorporate IIS, but it just didn't want to cooperate.
SP2 has so much stuff going on in the background, I can't imagine it
not being relatively unstable?

 

[Donald McDaniel]

jamieduncan66



First off - what does XP Home have to do with this thread? Third sentence
says, "... I am now running a desktop and a laptop with Windows XP Pro..."
That pretty much eliminates the need for any discussion about Windows XP
Home Edition in this thread.

Secondly - a simple google search will show that the answer to the "Can I
install IIS on Windows XP Home Edition" is actually no.. with caveats. In
fact I answered this question for someone in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general 3 days ago.. with:

Why are you such a gloomy-gus, Mr. Stanley?

Are you jealous because someone other than yourself made an attempt to
help someone out or give them necessary information?

Or didn't you like my English for some reason or another? (by the way,
I don't suppose you saw my use of "if", did you? I guess not).

Or do I have a foul odor or something?

Anyway, thanks for your "correction". Now I know what I already knew:
that "ISS is a Professional application, and can only be installed in
XP Professional, with reservations". I guess that's somehow different
than my "If [notice the "if" here] your HP-Compaq OEM is XP Home
Edition, you will not be able to install IIS, since it can only be
installed on XP Professional. I think this may have to do with Home's
inability to join a domain. Or it may be for another reason" (this is
more of a paraphrase than a quote, since I don't have much of a memory
for "word-for-word" quoting.

Anyway, I misread the OPs use of "Windows XP Pro" for Windows XP
Home". My mistake, for which, I am sure, I will have to suffer
countless years of "purging of venial sins" in Microsoft Purgatory
after I die. God, I hope the demons are all Mac Fanatics, since Mac
Fanatics tend to be a bunch of idiots anyway.


==

Donald L McDaniel
Please Reply to the Original Thread.
========================================================

 

[Shenan Stanley]

jamieduncan66

I'm an old Mac/Linux person, and I'm used to computers doing what
I ask them to and not being rude about it. So much for that! For
reasons defying explanation here, I am now running a desktop and a
laptop with Windows XP Pro. The desktop is the machine in
question with SP2 "properly installed" per the little Update
wizard genie.

The machine is an HP-Compaq, 2.53 ghz P4. I have the proper OS
disk provided by HP.

My problem:

I want to install IIS. When I go to do this through the Control
Panels (or through the CD autostart menu) it starts to copy the
files and then says to install the cd b/c it can't find a file. I
browse to that folder and lo and behold, THERE'S THE FILE IT'S
LOOKING FOR. It doesn't care, apparently that's not the one it
wants.

So I download Nlite (per some discussion board researd), and I
stripsleam in SP2 (the entire 266 MB download!). Thinking my
problem is solved, and I can install IIS and get on with my life,
I make a cd. It appears to work perfectly.

I ask it to install IIS (very nicely I might add)...

EXACT SAME PROBLEM.

OK, so what's the deal here? I've been out of the Microsoft loop
for too long to troubleshoot ignorance at this level. Can someone
up to date on this stuff give me a hand?

Thanks!!

I have been told (more than once) by so-called MVPs, that IIS can
only be installed in XP Professional. If your HP-Compaq OEM of XP
is Home Edition, you will not be able to install IIS. This may be
because Home Edition is unable to join a domain. Or it may be some
other reason.

First off - what does XP Home have to do with this thread? Third
sentence says, "... I am now running a desktop and a laptop with
Windows XP Pro..." That pretty much eliminates the need for any
discussion about Windows XP Home Edition in this thread.

Secondly - a simple google search will show that the answer to the
"Can I install IIS on Windows XP Home Edition" is actually no..
with caveats. In fact I answered this question for someone in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general 3 days ago.. with:

-----
A *sure* way? No.

You could use some other web server software - but IIS is a
"professional" product.. Available on Windows XP Professional and
Windows server products. It is *not* available for Windows XP Home
Edition.

You can try one of the many sites (Google is great - should try
it!) that claim to have the answer you seek, for example:
http://www.15seconds.com/issue/020118.htm
or
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Web/Q_20844896.html

Otherwise, you could use something like Apache or one of the many
other web servers out there. Last I read, Apache did not DIRECTLY
support ASP, but with the correct "add-on", it supports it as well
as IIS.

ChiliASP
http://wwws.sun.com/software/chilisoft/index.html

Apache::ASP
http://www.apache-asp.org/

mod_mono
http://go-mono.com/archive/xsp-0.10.html
-----

So, the complete answer for your complaint/issue (that you included
in this thread for some reason) is the above. It really has
nothing to do with its ability to join a domain. It's just a
limitation of Windows XP Home.

Why are you such a gloomy-gus, Mr. Stanley?

Are you jealous because someone other than yourself made an attempt
to help someone out or give them necessary information?

Or didn't you like my English for some reason or another? (by the
way, I don't suppose you saw my use of "if", did you? I guess not).

Or do I have a foul odor or something?

Anyway, thanks for your "correction". Now I know what I already
knew: that "ISS is a Professional application, and can only be
installed in XP Professional, with reservations". I guess that's
somehow different than my "If [notice the "if" here] your
HP-Compaq OEM is XP Home Edition, you will not be able to install
IIS, since it can only be installed on XP Professional. I think
this may have to do with Home's inability to join a domain. Or it
may be for another reason" (this is more of a paraphrase than a
quote, since I don't have much of a memory for "word-for-word"
quoting.

Anyway, I misread the OPs use of "Windows XP Pro" for Windows XP
Home". My mistake, for which, I am sure, I will have to suffer
countless years of "purging of venial sins" in Microsoft Purgatory
after I die. God, I hope the demons are all Mac Fanatics, since Mac
Fanatics tend to be a bunch of idiots anyway.

I simply corrected your honest mistake - quoted the entirety of the thread
up to that point - and even made sure that *if*, since this is archived for
all to see for many years to come, anyone needed to know the answer to the
question you had added to the thread - they now had it.

I saw your *if* and I noted your condescending attitude from the beginning.
All I did was give a complete answer to your line of the thread.

 

[jamie duncan]

jamieduncan66

I'm an old Mac/Linux person, and I'm used to computers doing what
I ask them to and not being rude about it. So much for that! For
reasons defying explanation here, I am now running a desktop and a
laptop with Windows XP Pro. The desktop is the machine in
question with SP2 "properly installed" per the little Update
wizard genie.

The machine is an HP-Compaq, 2.53 ghz P4. I have the proper OS
disk provided by HP.

My problem:

I want to install IIS. When I go to do this through the Control
Panels (or through the CD autostart menu) it starts to copy the
files and then says to install the cd b/c it can't find a file. I
browse to that folder and lo and behold, THERE'S THE FILE IT'S
LOOKING FOR. It doesn't care, apparently that's not the one it
wants.

So I download Nlite (per some discussion board researd), and I
stripsleam in SP2 (the entire 266 MB download!). Thinking my
problem is solved, and I can install IIS and get on with my life,
I make a cd. It appears to work perfectly.

I ask it to install IIS (very nicely I might add)...

EXACT SAME PROBLEM.

OK, so what's the deal here? I've been out of the Microsoft loop
for too long to troubleshoot ignorance at this level. Can someone
up to date on this stuff give me a hand?

Thanks!!

I have been told (more than once) by so-called MVPs, that IIS can
only be installed in XP Professional. If your HP-Compaq OEM of XP
is Home Edition, you will not be able to install IIS. This may be
because Home Edition is unable to join a domain. Or it may be some
other reason.

First off - what does XP Home have to do with this thread? Third
sentence says, "... I am now running a desktop and a laptop with
Windows XP Pro..." That pretty much eliminates the need for any
discussion about Windows XP Home Edition in this thread.

Secondly - a simple google search will show that the answer to the
"Can I install IIS on Windows XP Home Edition" is actually no..
with caveats. In fact I answered this question for someone in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general 3 days ago.. with:

-----
A *sure* way? No.

You could use some other web server software - but IIS is a
"professional" product.. Available on Windows XP Professional and
Windows server products. It is *not* available for Windows XP Home
Edition.

You can try one of the many sites (Google is great - should try
it!) that claim to have the answer you seek, for example:
http://www.15seconds.com/issue/020118.htm
or
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Web/Q_20844896.html

Otherwise, you could use something like Apache or one of the many
other web servers out there. Last I read, Apache did not DIRECTLY
support ASP, but with the correct "add-on", it supports it as well
as IIS.

ChiliASP
http://wwws.sun.com/software/chilisoft/index.html

Apache::ASP
http://www.apache-asp.org/

mod_mono
http://go-mono.com/archive/xsp-0.10.html
-----

So, the complete answer for your complaint/issue (that you included
in this thread for some reason) is the above. It really has
nothing to do with its ability to join a domain. It's just a
limitation of Windows XP Home.

Why are you such a gloomy-gus, Mr. Stanley?

Are you jealous because someone other than yourself made an attempt
to help someone out or give them necessary information?

Or didn't you like my English for some reason or another? (by the
way, I don't suppose you saw my use of "if", did you? I guess not).

Or do I have a foul odor or something?

Anyway, thanks for your "correction". Now I know what I already
knew: that "ISS is a Professional application, and can only be
installed in XP Professional, with reservations". I guess that's
somehow different than my "If [notice the "if" here] your
HP-Compaq OEM is XP Home Edition, you will not be able to install
IIS, since it can only be installed on XP Professional. I think
this may have to do with Home's inability to join a domain. Or it
may be for another reason" (this is more of a paraphrase than a
quote, since I don't have much of a memory for "word-for-word"
quoting.

Anyway, I misread the OPs use of "Windows XP Pro" for Windows XP
Home". My mistake, for which, I am sure, I will have to suffer
countless years of "purging of venial sins" in Microsoft Purgatory
after I die. God, I hope the demons are all Mac Fanatics, since Mac
Fanatics tend to be a bunch of idiots anyway.

I simply corrected your honest mistake - quoted the entirety of the thread
up to that point - and even made sure that *if*, since this is archived for
all to see for many years to come, anyone needed to know the answer to the
question you had added to the thread - they now had it.

I saw your *if* and I noted your condescending attitude from the beginning.
All I did was give a complete answer to your line of the thread.

Wow..... seriously, you guys both need a new hobby. thanks for the
answer. In the future I'll do all I can do to avoid MS products, and
the people who consider themselves gurus for said products.... Mac
fanatics aren't idiots. We just like computers to do what we ask them
to do - when we ask them to do it.

 

[Donald McDaniel]

jamieduncan66

I'm an old Mac/Linux person, and I'm used to computers doing what
I ask them to and not being rude about it. So much for that! For
reasons defying explanation here, I am now running a desktop and a
laptop with Windows XP Pro. The desktop is the machine in
question with SP2 "properly installed" per the little Update
wizard genie.

The machine is an HP-Compaq, 2.53 ghz P4. I have the proper OS
disk provided by HP.

My problem:

I want to install IIS. When I go to do this through the Control
Panels (or through the CD autostart menu) it starts to copy the
files and then says to install the cd b/c it can't find a file. I
browse to that folder and lo and behold, THERE'S THE FILE IT'S
LOOKING FOR. It doesn't care, apparently that's not the one it
wants.

So I download Nlite (per some discussion board researd), and I
stripsleam in SP2 (the entire 266 MB download!). Thinking my
problem is solved, and I can install IIS and get on with my life,
I make a cd. It appears to work perfectly.

I ask it to install IIS (very nicely I might add)...

EXACT SAME PROBLEM.

OK, so what's the deal here? I've been out of the Microsoft loop
for too long to troubleshoot ignorance at this level. Can someone
up to date on this stuff give me a hand?

Thanks!!

I have been told (more than once) by so-called MVPs, that IIS can
only be installed in XP Professional. If your HP-Compaq OEM of XP
is Home Edition, you will not be able to install IIS. This may be
because Home Edition is unable to join a domain. Or it may be some
other reason.

First off - what does XP Home have to do with this thread? Third
sentence says, "... I am now running a desktop and a laptop with
Windows XP Pro..." That pretty much eliminates the need for any
discussion about Windows XP Home Edition in this thread.

Secondly - a simple google search will show that the answer to the
"Can I install IIS on Windows XP Home Edition" is actually no..
with caveats. In fact I answered this question for someone in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general 3 days ago.. with:

-----
A *sure* way? No.

You could use some other web server software - but IIS is a
"professional" product.. Available on Windows XP Professional and
Windows server products. It is *not* available for Windows XP Home
Edition.

You can try one of the many sites (Google is great - should try
it!) that claim to have the answer you seek, for example:
http://www.15seconds.com/issue/020118.htm
or
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Web/Q_20844896.html

Otherwise, you could use something like Apache or one of the many
other web servers out there. Last I read, Apache did not DIRECTLY
support ASP, but with the correct "add-on", it supports it as well
as IIS.

ChiliASP
http://wwws.sun.com/software/chilisoft/index.html

Apache::ASP
http://www.apache-asp.org/

mod_mono
http://go-mono.com/archive/xsp-0.10.html
-----

So, the complete answer for your complaint/issue (that you included
in this thread for some reason) is the above. It really has
nothing to do with its ability to join a domain. It's just a
limitation of Windows XP Home.

Why are you such a gloomy-gus, Mr. Stanley?

Are you jealous because someone other than yourself made an attempt
to help someone out or give them necessary information?

Or didn't you like my English for some reason or another? (by the
way, I don't suppose you saw my use of "if", did you? I guess not).

Or do I have a foul odor or something?

Anyway, thanks for your "correction". Now I know what I already
knew: that "ISS is a Professional application, and can only be
installed in XP Professional, with reservations". I guess that's
somehow different than my "If [notice the "if" here] your
HP-Compaq OEM is XP Home Edition, you will not be able to install
IIS, since it can only be installed on XP Professional. I think
this may have to do with Home's inability to join a domain. Or it
may be for another reason" (this is more of a paraphrase than a
quote, since I don't have much of a memory for "word-for-word"
quoting.

Anyway, I misread the OPs use of "Windows XP Pro" for Windows XP
Home". My mistake, for which, I am sure, I will have to suffer
countless years of "purging of venial sins" in Microsoft Purgatory
after I die. God, I hope the demons are all Mac Fanatics, since Mac
Fanatics tend to be a bunch of idiots anyway.

I simply corrected your honest mistake - quoted the entirety of the thread
up to that point - and even made sure that *if*, since this is archived for
all to see for many years to come, anyone needed to know the answer to the
question you had added to the thread - they now had it.

I saw your *if* and I noted your condescending attitude from the beginning.
All I did was give a complete answer to your line of the thread.

Shenan, I do admit that my last response was rather condescending.
That was my intent.

However, my response to the OP was an honest effort to help him/her
out.

Anyway, please forgive me for my condescending response. It was kind
of out of line.

My only excuse was that I had just come out of a Mac advocacy group,
and was "looking for bear", so to speak.

==

Donald L McDaniel
Please Reply to the Original Thread.
========================================================