Workgroup file connection problem!!!

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Lilian

Hi!
I'v got some problem concerning the connection to splitted database with
created WRGRP file which is connected to the server. I created the shortcut
in target wrote I "C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office\Office12\MSACCESS.EXE"N:\ StarHolding\Databases\Access
DB\Testversion.mdb"\WRKGRP"N:\StarHolding\Databases\Access DB\Security4.mdw"
In start in by default: Start in:"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office12".

I placed the spitted file with be extend on the server and unsecured
database file plus worgroup file Security4.mdw.
The other users can't logga in to database via these shortcut. What I did
wrong can someone help me with advice? Otherwise the splitted database file
without wrkgrp file works perfectly.

I will be very appreciated for an advice.
Best regards,
Lilian
 
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Douglas J. Steele

Can't log into the database, or does the shortcut plain not work?

The quotes in what you've presented are definitely incorrect, as is the
slash before WRKGRP: what you should have should be

"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\MSACCESS.EXE" "N:\
StarHolding\Databases\Access DB\Testversion.mdb"
/WRKGRP"N:\StarHolding\Databases\Access DB\Security4.mdw"

Of course, if your database is split, why are you opening a database on the
network? Each user should have his or her own copy of the front-end on his
or her hard drive.
 
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Lilian

Hi Douglas J.Steele!

When I made workgroup file with different user role and then spitted the
databaseI couldnot find the front end database file which I have to install
to client computers. The back end file which contains only tables I placed on
server. Efter spitting the database with the workgroup file appeared only
shortcut in my computer desktop, security.mdw file and bak. file wih the
whole not spitted database. In my computer it was not problem to logga in via
shortcut to the database. Where is the front end file? If I spitted the
database without workgroup file appear both front end back end file and If I
connected to client computters without workgroup file everything works the
database updates and so on. But with workgroup file the front file
disappears. Can somebody say to me the right procedure how to connect the
font file with security.mdw to client computers?
/Lilian


"Douglas J. Steele" skrev:
 
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Douglas J. Steele

I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

You should be putting a copy of the front-end database on each user's
machine. The workgroup file can remain on the server. Change the details of
the shortcut I indicated earlier so that it points to the front-end on the
user's machine:

"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\MSACCESS.EXE" "C:\Some
Folder\Testversion.mdb" /WRKGRP"N:\StarHolding\Databases\Access
DB\Security4.mdw"
 
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Lilian

I undestand that I have to put the front -end database in client computers.
My problem is I can't find it the front -end database efter splitting of the
database and making workgroup file with different user roles.
What I did are:
1. I made workgroup file with different user roles.
2. Then I splitted the database into front-end and back-end file.

Efter I got a shortcut till front-end file which is located on the desktop
and back-end file which is located on the server together with security.mdw.
Now I have to copy the front-end file to place it in client computers but
it can't find. The only thing I can copy is security.mdw -and shortcut .

If I don't make the workgroup file I can without any problem copy the
front-end file and placed it on client computers. Where is the front-end file
efter applying workgroup file? It becames only a shortcut. What I do wrong
help me please.
Best regards,
Lilian

"Douglas J. Steele" skrev:
 
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Douglas J. Steele

I don't understand what you mean that you can't find the front-end database
if you've got a short-cut to it.
 
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Lilian

Hi!

I have some question concerning attachments of new users to the database
which has security.mdw. When I as administrator tryied to attach a new user
then this new user can not logga in to the database. the user get the error
message " you have not valid password". When I created user account for this
user the database ask for username and id number but not the password. I
applyed the user rights to this user also. Do you know is it possible to
attach a new user to splitted database with Workgroup file?

Best regards,
Lilian

"Douglas J. Steele" skrev:
 
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Douglas J. Steele

While it's possible to attach a new workgroup file to Access, the preferred
method is to create a shortcut that includes the workgroup file. In that
way, you're not impacting the user's ability to work with other databases.
The shortcut must include the full path to msaccess.exe, not just the full
path to the mdb (or mde) file.

Where are you getting this prompt for "username and id number"? I have never
seen such a prompt from Access.
 
L

Lilian

Hi Douglas!

With the last question concerning attachments of the new user I found the
answer. But with first one I have the problem. I copyied from my computer the
shortcut, the front-end database file. The back end file I placed on the
server together with Security.mdw. I made the changes on the shortcut path
and wrote as you sade to me. But still nothing works on other computers. I
get the error message efter I made the path changes that its not possible to
open the database controll the path and etc. I tryed to made another shortcut
and link to front-nd file but still nothing works. Efter I made workgroup
information file the front-end file is locked and can opens on my computer
only with help of security.mdw.
Can you help me please how to open font end file with workgroup information
file on other computers.? These path changes doesn't work.
With best regards,
Liilian

"Douglas J. Steele" skrev:
 
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Lilian

Hi!
I get the error message the "Microsoft Access can't find database file C:\My
Documents\testversion.mdb.Kontroll that you write the rigt search path and
filename"

Best regards,
Lilian
"Douglas J. Steele" skrev:
 
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Douglas J. Steele

Does the database exist in C:\My Documents\testversion.mdb? Do the users
have a minimum of Read and Write (and, ideally, Delete) to the C:\My
Documents\ folder?
 
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Lilian

Hi!
I solve the problem yesterday. Thank you very much.
Best regards

"Douglas J. Steele" skrev:
 
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Joan Wild

You are now asking something that is unrelated to your shortcut problem.

When you create a new user using the security dialogs, it asks you to
enter a username and a PID (which you are calling an id number). This
PID is NOT a password. The users password is null/blank/nothing.

You need to login using this user's username and leave the password
blank. Then, you can go to Tools, Security, Accounts and click on the
Change Password tab, and change their password from 'blank' to something
else.

Joan Wild
MS Access MVP
 
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Lilian

Hi!

Today I did connection to the database on all client computers. Everything
works.
Get some problem with design changes. If I do in the forms design changes on
front-end file which is located on the client computer I get the changes only
on one computer not in all computers which are connected to the server.
If I make changes with data everything updates and works perfectly. What to
do to see the design changes in the forms in all client-computers? I think
probably to located on separated maps the both front-end and back-end file.
And let the users through the server maps where located the both files to
logga in to the server?
Do you know what is the best solution to the problem with forms design
changes?

Best regards,
Lilian


"Douglas J. Steele" skrev:
 
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Joan Wild

Make all your changes in your copy of the frontend. Once you've
completed testing and you're ready to deploy to the users, you just copy
it to each user's PC. There are methods to automate the updating.

See http://granite.ab.ca/access/autofe.htm
Tony has a utility to do this, and there are other possibilities listed
at the bottom of that page.

Joan Wild
MS Access MVP
 

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