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[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

If the abbreviation were MR and pronounced as separate letters rather than
"Mister," I might be more inclined to agree with you.

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[Jezebel]

And you don't use periods for e.g. and i.e. ?

If the abbreviation were MR and pronounced as separate letters rather than
"Mister," I might be more inclined to agree with you.

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[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

I do use periods for e.g. and i.e., but they are not capitalized.

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[Jezebel]

So you wouldn't use periods if they occurred in an all caps context?

 

[Charles Kenyon]

i.e. and e.g. are abbreviations for Latin phrases, which, I've forgotten, I
think.
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[Tony Jollans]

I'm hesitant to weigh in again but here goes ..

Technically Mr (an abbreviation) should probably have a full stop / period;
it is acceptable, but not normal, in UK usage - I believe it is normal in US
usage.

USA, MVP, FAQ, etc. are acronyms and do not normally have full stops in
either UK or US usage AFAIK. Because they are in upper case they are
distinguishable from words.

e.g., i.e., etc. in lower case have full stops to distinguish them from
words - if nothing else it helps the spellchecker

There aren't any hard and fast rules. We have a living language (or two).

Word's readability statistics seem to be able to handle all this. Word's
sentence count is not so good (but doesn't simply count full stops).

 

[Graham Mayor]

I am old enough to have been taught English, in the UK, when grammar and
written English form was considered important. A full stop (period in the
US) to denote an abbreviation, was always considered correct; thus Mr. would
have been used *with* a full stop. General sloppiness has crept into English
usage and as our education system now couldn't seem to care less, either
appears equally acceptable,


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[Jezebel]

The use of punctuation around abbreviations is a matter of typography, not
grammar. The 'rules' of typography -- like those of grammar and
punctuation -- change continuously. Just have a look at a New Yorker from
the days of Ross and Thurber (or even the early Dr Seuss books) to see how
much has changed.

 

[Jezebel]

id est and exempli gratia

i.e. and e.g. are abbreviations for Latin phrases, which, I've forgotten,
I think.
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[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Precisely. The UK has moved ahead of the US in this respect. Another
difference: in the UK, abbreviations pronounced as words (acronyms), such as
Aids, have initial caps only. Here we tend to keep them as all caps until
they become true words (the original unabbreviated form almost forgotten),
such as scuba and radar.

It is certainly true that a plethora of periods (full stops) is
messy-looking. It is for this reason that I avoid abbreviations entirely
when possible (though I'm often thwarted by AP style, which converts all
written-out state names to abbreviations). I will not dispute that UK usage
looks "cleaner." But until it becomes much more common in the US, it will
continue to look "wrong" to me.

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[Greg]

For what it is worth, Word (the word processor that has brought us all
together in this discussion) considers "Mr." correct (with English U.S.
set as the language) and Mr or MR correct with (English U.K. set as the
language). In an effort to assuage a widening rift, can we agree that
either an be completely correct dependent on the users chosen language?

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Well, that is what I have maintained from the outset.

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