Word should ignore accent symbols (e.g. 0x0301) in spell checking

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Guest

There are some symbols that should be ignored by spell checking as it is with
soft hyphen. For example Unicode COMBINING ACUTE ACCENT (0301) may be used in
Cyrillic languages to specify accent but Word underlines word with such
symbols as having mistake. It would be great to have an editable list of such
symbols because it may vary from language to language.

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Chuck Davis

This can be accomplished on your computer by simply adding the correctly
spelled word to your custom dictionary...
 
G

Guest

Chuck Davis said:
This can be accomplished on your computer by simply adding the correctly
spelled word to your custom dictionary...
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This is not the case. For example in Russian sometimes you need to specify
syllable on wich an accent is made (stressed syllable) because meaning of the
word can depend on the accent or it is not evident what syllable is stressed.
It is completely impossible to add all combinations of the words with accents
to dictionary - it will be much larger that main dictionary.

The situation is like to soft hyphens. Imagine that Word would treat all
soft hyphens as character in the word (as letter). You'd have to add all
words with manually set hyphens to custom dictionary...
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

In some languages words would be considered misspelled without the required
accents. If this is not true in Russian, then the Russian proofing tools
should function differently, but this is not a desirable modification for
most languages.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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Suzanne S. Barnhill said:
In some languages words would be considered misspelled without the required
accents. If this is not true in Russian, then the Russian proofing tools
should function differently, but this is not a desirable modification for
most languages.
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Don't you know that there are different methods of specifying accents? First
- when character contains an accent within it (e.g. é with Unicode index
00E9) - this is what you talk about. Certainly, accents of such characters
couldn't be ignored.

BUT there is another method of specifying accent - combining original
letter, e.g. e (0065), with special accent symbol Ì (0301) that follows the
letter. The result would be eÌ <= there are TWO unicode characters (letter
and accent).

I'm trying to explain that Word should ignore accents IN THE SECOND case
during spell checking.

For example, imagine a word in some language: "замок" (hope your browser
will show it correctly). It is spelled correctly and Word doesn't underline
it as having mistake. BUT this word can have two different meanings: first,
when accent is made on first syllable (denoted as "заÌмок", means "castle"),
and second with accent on the last syllable (denoted as "замоÌк", means
"lock"). If one needs to explicitly specify accent, Word will highlight it as
mistake.

Words in above examples actually consist from SIX characters (not five)
because accent symbol is located between second and third letters in the
first example ("за Ìмок"), and between fourth and fifth letters in the second
example ("замо Ìк"). Unicode rendering engine does not allocate separate
space for accent symbols (starting from 0300) but draws them above preceding
letter.

This behavior is similar to the soft hyphens when they are inserted into the
word. For example, consider word "precipitation" (just a long word). You can
insert soft hyphens ("pre¬ci¬pi¬ta¬tion") and Word will ignore them during
spell checking.

Accent signs may also be inserted into the word and should be ignored by
spell checking.
 
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

FWIW, Word doesn't even handle optional hyphens very well. We have
discovered that an optional hyphen (inserted manually) is treated as
"punctuation" and will trigger an AutoCorrect action when the text before
the hyphen is the "Replace with" text of an AutoCorrect entry. So while I
can see the point you're making, I'm guessing it may be a while before we
see action on your suggestion.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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Guest

Suzanne S. Barnhill said:
FWIW, Word doesn't even handle optional hyphens very well. We have
discovered that an optional hyphen (inserted manually) is treated as
"punctuation" and will trigger an AutoCorrect action when the text before
the hyphen is the "Replace with" text of an AutoCorrect entry. So while I
can see the point you're making, I'm guessing it may be a while before we
see action on your suggestion.
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I'm glad that you understand me. I realize that we have to wait for a long
time for such changes in MS products. At least you can click on the "I Agree"
button to show your support :)
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

I could click on I Agree if I were using the Web interface, but I post using
Outlook Express.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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