[WMA9] I want to OWN the music I buy

[NoWhereMan]

As in subject, I want to OWN the music I legally buy through these e-music
stores. I want to convert protected WMA9 files to non-protected formats, so
that I can read them with, let's say, my palm device or whatever.

Any freeware? dMC? Others?

thank you so much
(Give credit, when it's due. But once you did, do what you want -legally- )

bye

 

[Conor]

As in subject, I want to OWN the music I legally buy through these e-music
stores. I want to convert protected WMA9 files to non-protected formats, so
that I can read them with, let's say, my palm device or whatever.

Any freeware? dMC? Others?

Sorry, this isn't alt.piracy.

 

[TheManifold]

I actually looked for alt.piracy..

 

[Gordon Darling]

As in subject, I want to OWN the music I legally buy through these e-music
stores. I want to convert protected WMA9 files to non-protected formats,
so that I can read them with, let's say, my palm device or whatever.

Any freeware? dMC? Others?

thank you so much
(Give credit, when it's due. But once you did, do what you want -legally-
)

For "fair use" purposes only

http://home.wanadoo.nl/lc.staak/freeme.htm

Regards
Gordon

 

[Dave Smey]

As in subject, I want to OWN the music I legally buy through these e-music

stores.

Of course, if you like music on independant labels, you can buy plain mp3s
at eMusic for about .25 each. (emusic.com) Support labels that don't DRM
you!

 

[Charles D. Bohne]

Of course, if you like music on independant labels, you can buy plain mp3s
at eMusic for about .25 each. (emusic.com) Support labels that don't DRM
you!

In the old days we spent long days and nights copying from fading
radio sources (Radio Veronica, Radio Caroline, RTL radio etc.).
Now you can get high quality digital versions even from Internet radio.
Why do you have to buy DRM shit?
C.

 

[NoWhereMan]

Sorry, this isn't alt.piracy.

WAIT!

Sorry if I wasn't clear enough (but I thought I had been)

*I'm NOT willing to CRACK anything.* I want only to listen to my music with
a player which doesn't support WMA9. I read that WMA9 leaves a track once
you convert to other formats, so you can still identify it.

If I wanted to crack the protection, I WOULD ask on alt.piracy, but I OWN
the license as I BOUGHT the files! So I'd like to know if exist a freeware
to convert WMAs to a standard format.

Maybe this looks like a lamer question. But in fact it's not. I just want
to enjoy the music I legally bought.

 

[NoWhereMan]

Now you can get high quality digital versions even from Internet radio.
Why do you have to buy DRM shit?
C.

I buy DRM shit legally so that someone here... can call me a cracker -__-'

 

[NoWhereMan]

For "fair use" purposes only

http://home.wanadoo.nl/lc.staak/freeme.htm

Really interesting... if only there were a "LEGAL" way to do this. I mean,
this is in fact a brute-force crack...

Thanx for the link, mate

 

[NoWhereMan]

Or maybe you can name me some FREEWARE WMA9 player for PalmOS? (or Linux?)
If you have the answer then I won't have to convert the file, and you won't
consider me a lamer anymore.

 

[NoWhereMan]

huh, so sorry to bother you, but there's a COMMERCIAL piece of software to
do this http://www.litexmedia.com/wma_workshop/whatsnew.html
so I DO think my question can still be asked here for a freeware
alternative

 

[old jon]

As in subject, I want to OWN the music I legally buy through these e-music
stores. I want to convert protected WMA9 files to non-protected formats,
so
that I can read them with, let's say, my palm device or whatever.

Any freeware? dMC? Others?

thank you so much
(Give credit, when it's due. But once you did, do what you
want -legally- )

bye

I own a Creative Soundblaster live card. In the control panel you can select
to record, `what you hear`. Running this in conjuntion with, playing the WMA
it is possible to copy the file your playing. This Could be an option to
consider. Other Recorder software must be able to do this. Hope this gives
you ideas.
bw..OJ

 

[DAVID SMEY]

Just for the record, this quote was misattributed to me. NoWhereMan, please
listen: I'm generally with you. I do the burn-and-rerip thing for my Sony
Connect files, and will extract the audio from my opera DVDs. Doing this
kind of unauthorized space-shifting seems more legit than recording internet
radio, which you aren't paying for and is not intended to be kept.

But I'm telling you man, check out emusic. You don't know what you're
missing, the world is at your command.

 

[Conor]

huh, so sorry to bother you, but there's a COMMERCIAL piece of software to
do this http://www.litexmedia.com/wma_workshop/whatsnew.html
so I DO think my question can still be asked here for a freeware
alternative

You're American, right? So you're breaking the DMCA by subterfuging the
DRM restrictions of that file.

And yes, it could be used for piracy. Napsters "all you can eat"
subscription allows you to download unlimited WMA files which are
restricted to playback on that computer only whiclst you still
subscribe monthly. By removing the DRM, you can then convert it and
play it on any machine.

 

[NoWhereMan]

NoWhereMan, please
listen: I'm generally with you.

Thank you, man

I do the burn-and-rerip thing for my Sony
Connect files, and will extract the audio from my opera DVDs. Doing this
kind of unauthorized space-shifting seems more legit than recording internet
radio, which you aren't paying for and is not intended to be kept.

Yeah, I must agree

But I'm telling you man, check out emusic.

and what about these?
http://www.magnatune.com
http://www.dmusic.com/
http://www.opsound.org/
http://music.download.com/

You don't know what you're
missing, the world is at your command.

ehehe

 

[elaich]

If I wanted to crack the protection, I WOULD ask on alt.piracy, but I OWN
the license as I BOUGHT the files!

Read the fine print. You "bought" nothing but a license to play those files
on one computer. The files cannot be legally altered or tranferred to
another device unless done so via the same agency that licensed the files
to you. Like Napster, who will allow you to copy them to an iPod using
their proprietary software, which keeps a record of what you did and sends
it back to Napster.

 

[NoWhereMan]

You're American, right?

Really, I'm not. But thank you for the compliment to my English... (or
maybe you were kidding?). As you may see sometimes from my sign - that I
often forget to change... - I'm Italian

So you're breaking the DMCA by subterfuging the
DRM restrictions of that file.

And yes, it could be used for piracy.

You're right. But since I follow the restrictions of the license, which
tells me "you may not read the file on a computer other from the one where
you download, you may not copy it more than three times on portable
devices", I'm not breaking the law, am I?
If I don't "CRACK" the file, by just removing the DRM part, but I convert
it to a playable format to put it on a portable device not supporting DRM
WMA9, I don't think I'm doing anything of illegal.

Anyway, I understand what you mean. But I didn't like at all the way you
answered (this is not alt.piracy). You could just say "that's not fair" or
whatever. I'm not a pirate, a cracker, a lamer...

Just think about this: If I don't want to pay for the music I like I may
just use eMule, Limewire, etc. where songs are in plain MP3 format. And I
wouldn't have to ask here my question.

 

[Richard Steinfeld]

I own a Creative Soundblaster live card. In the control panel you can select
to record, `what you hear`. Running this in conjuntion with, playing the WMA
it is possible to copy the file your playing. This Could be an option to
consider. Other Recorder software must be able to do this. Hope this gives
you ideas.
bw..OJ

Yes. Exactly. The routine is to copy the audio, not the compression/DRM
scheme.

I routinely download radio programs from Real Streams onto my MP3 player
for time shifting. Real Alternative/Media Player Classic render a stream
onto my computer's sound circuitry as audio; I grab this audio after it
exits the computer on the way to my speakers through a simple audio
breakout box that I made. A cable connects the breakout box to my MP3
player, which converts the line-level audio to MP3 for storage. If I
want to save the file (which is very rare), I can copy that file back
from the MP3 player to the computer -- not as an audio feed but simply
as the MP3 file that it is now. Now, that MP3 file can be rendered by
lots of software, including Media Player Classic. (Note that MP3 itself
is a proprietary codec!)

After making my audio breakout box, I found something similar and
simpler marketed by Jasco with the "GE" logo on it for $7. It's not as
slick and flexible as my box, but hell, it'll deliver the streams just
as well.

My point here is that once the DRM-handcuffed music has been rendered to
an audio feed, it can be saved as anything. In other words, re-encoded
to whatever you want.

Philosophy:

I'm not crazy about the music "industry." Especially, having amassed a
musical education myself that cost more than a doctor's training, I take
a dim view of performers being ripped off by the companies or having
their wares just mindlessly appropriated by people becuase it's there
for the taking. If you enjoy saving the fruits of their labors yourself,
what have you given back to them in fair exchange for the enjoyment that
they've provided to you with their work?

On the other hand, in the world of popular music, a system of currency
had been established (you buy a 45 single for X dollars. or later, a CD
for Y dollars). So, the recording is a commodity. Enter DRM: now you're
buying a "license." And like with software, a license entitles you to
rent the content for a limited time (usually arbitrary). A license
doesn't entitle you to make a backup copy for yourself the way outright
purchase does (I think -- this is a bit gray). If the price is low
enough, let's say, you get yourself a song for 25 cents, what the hell.
But if you pay $3 for the song, then I feel that you have the right to
back it up for yourself, and to make your backup in an open format that
won't leave you stranded when Big Mega Music-o-Rama goes belly-up.

How's that grab you?

Richard

 

[old jon]

Yes. Exactly. The routine is to copy the audio, not the compression/DRM
scheme.

I routinely download radio programs from Real Streams onto my MP3 player
for time shifting. Real Alternative/Media Player Classic render a stream
onto my computer's sound circuitry as audio; I grab this audio after it
exits the computer on the way to my speakers through a simple audio
breakout box that I made. A cable connects the breakout box to my MP3
player, which converts the line-level audio to MP3 for storage. If I want
to save the file (which is very rare), I can copy that file back from the
MP3 player to the computer -- not as an audio feed but simply as the MP3
file that it is now. Now, that MP3 file can be rendered by lots of
software, including Media Player Classic. (Note that MP3 itself is a
proprietary codec!)

After making my audio breakout box, I found something similar and simpler
marketed by Jasco with the "GE" logo on it for $7. It's not as slick and
flexible as my box, but hell, it'll deliver the streams just as well.

My point here is that once the DRM-handcuffed music has been rendered to
an audio feed, it can be saved as anything. In other words, re-encoded to
whatever you want.

Philosophy:

I'm not crazy about the music "industry." Especially, having amassed a
musical education myself that cost more than a doctor's training, I take a
dim view of performers being ripped off by the companies or having their
wares just mindlessly appropriated by people becuase it's there for the
taking. If you enjoy saving the fruits of their labors yourself, what have
you given back to them in fair exchange for the enjoyment that they've
provided to you with their work?

On the other hand, in the world of popular music, a system of currency had
been established (you buy a 45 single for X dollars. or later, a CD for Y
dollars). So, the recording is a commodity. Enter DRM: now you're buying a
"license." And like with software, a license entitles you to rent the
content for a limited time (usually arbitrary). A license doesn't entitle
you to make a backup copy for yourself the way outright purchase does (I
think -- this is a bit gray). If the price is low enough, let's say, you
get yourself a song for 25 cents, what the hell. But if you pay $3 for the
song, then I feel that you have the right to back it up for yourself, and
to make your backup in an open format that won't leave you stranded when
Big Mega Music-o-Rama goes belly-up.

How's that grab you?

Richard

I like your train of thought Richard.
bw..OJ.

 

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