WIPED HARD DRIVE CLEAN BY MISTAKE!!!

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I had a Trojan virus on my computer that SpyBot, Xoftspy, and tons of other
virus removers couldn't get rid of. I thought I'd reinstall Windows XP. I
didn't back my files up onto a separate computer or disk though. So, when I
re-installed XP today, now every personal file/data I ever had on my
computer is GONE.

GONE!!!! Having a heart attack over here.

I discovered that the installation I did this morning REPLACED the
installation of XP that I had before and so, it looks like a brand-new
computer--no documents, files, music, etc. In the article above, it
recommends as a solution to download XP Service Pack 2. Can I ever get back
my original installation of XP when I've essentially taped over/installed
over it?

This is the equivalent of taping over your wedding video (original XP
installation with all my files, documents, pictures, music, etc.) with a
hockey game (today's installation--empty, new, all personal data files gone).
My question is, can I get the wedding video part back? MS customer service
didn't have a clue. Not paying $35 if I can get help here for free.
 
Do not use the system! From another PC, locate any/all DISK recovery
software. Try only one to see if you would successful.

Or contact an expensice data recovery company.


"Accidentally Re-installed Over My XP"
 
GONE!!!! Having a heart attack over here.

And except for some very special HD recovery companies, who charge BIG BUCKS
to recover data, you'll need some Digitalis, lots of antacids because your
data is GONE!

One possible solution would be the newest version of SpinWrite at
www.grc.com.
 
First, a reinstallation of an operating system will not rid the system of a
virus and chances are it will make things worse. If you format and
reinstall, it might get rid of the virus assuming it is not a boot sector
virus but simply reinstalling the OS over your previous setup will not rid
the system of a virus and shouldn't be used for that purpose.

Second, if you did only reinstall and you did not use the option during
setup to remove the partition, create a new one and format, it's possible
what you have is a reinstall. If that is the case, the reason you cannot
see your documents is because they are not where you expect to find them.
If you know one of the file extensions, try doing a search in Windows
Explorer of your hard drive for such extensions. On the other hand, you may
just find a listing under Documents and Settings of another user name that
may have your documents, music, etc.

Do you see any other users listed under Documents and settings? Remember,
even if you don't see other users, those files may still be there so don't
forget to run that search.

If, in fact, this turns out to be a clean install that wiped out your
previous installation, you might do a search for "file recovery" on Google
and see if anything turns up that might be of use to you. Conversely, if
you check the back pages of many computer magazines, PC Mag, Computer
Shopper, etc. you will usually find ads for data recovery services that most
likely will be able to recover your files.

There is nothing Microsoft Customer Service would be able to do, this is not
a function of the operating system and note, if you are unable to find your
files by running a search as I outlined, you will be spending a lot more
than $35 if you need to use a recovery service. In fact, even such a file
recovery utility, if you find one on Google will likely cost you more.

You would have saved yourself considerable heart ache if you made a backup
of your files. Note the third line of my signature.

--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

"Accidentally Re-installed Over My XP"
 
You are SOL !

Next time get proper advice in the first place !

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microsoft.public.security.virus
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--
Dave




"Accidentally Re-installed Over My XP"
| I had a Trojan virus on my computer that SpyBot, Xoftspy, and tons of other
| virus removers couldn't get rid of. I thought I'd reinstall Windows XP. I
| didn't back my files up onto a separate computer or disk though. So, when I
| re-installed XP today, now every personal file/data I ever had on my
| computer is GONE.
|
| GONE!!!! Having a heart attack over here.
|
| I discovered that the installation I did this morning REPLACED the
| installation of XP that I had before and so, it looks like a brand-new
| computer--no documents, files, music, etc. In the article above, it
| recommends as a solution to download XP Service Pack 2. Can I ever get back
| my original installation of XP when I've essentially taped over/installed
| over it?
|
| This is the equivalent of taping over your wedding video (original XP
| installation with all my files, documents, pictures, music, etc.) with a
| hockey game (today's installation--empty, new, all personal data files gone).
| My question is, can I get the wedding video part back? MS customer service
| didn't have a clue. Not paying $35 if I can get help here for free.
|
|
 
Stop using the system. Each time you use it you run the risk of overwriting
data. Get a software recovery program that you and see what it finds. Here's
an example http://www.recovermyfiles.com/ or
http://www.data-recovery-software.net/
or http://www.ontrack.com/easyrecoverydatarecovery/
You should pull the drive out of your system, connect it to a second system
that has the recovery software installed and then do a search for lost
files. Do not
attempt to save the found data back to the same drive it was lost on until
you have recovered everything you can.

There are a lot of other apps that will do the same but if you are really
worried about recovery then take the system to a specialized service.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


"Accidentally Re-installed Over My XP"
 
"Accidentally Re-installed Over My XP"
I had a Trojan virus on my computer that SpyBot, Xoftspy, and tons of other
virus removers couldn't get rid of. I thought I'd reinstall Windows XP. I
didn't back my files up onto a separate computer or disk though. So, when
I
re-installed XP today, now every personal file/data I ever had on my
computer is GONE.

GONE!!!! Having a heart attack over here.

I discovered that the installation I did this morning REPLACED the
installation of XP that I had before and so, it looks like a brand-new
computer--no documents, files, music, etc. In the article above, it
recommends as a solution to download XP Service Pack 2. Can I ever get
back
my original installation of XP when I've essentially taped over/installed
over it?

This is the equivalent of taping over your wedding video (original XP
installation with all my files, documents, pictures, music, etc.) with a
hockey game (today's installation--empty, new, all personal data files
gone).
My question is, can I get the wedding video part back? MS customer service
didn't have a clue. Not paying $35 if I can get help here for free.
Do a search in pcworld or cnet for undelete programs. I download one last
fall that fits on a floppy and can recover anything. Needed it to recover a
pic on a compact flash card. Restoration version 2.5.14, authors name is
Brian Kato.
 
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:21:31 -0800, "Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP\)"
If, in fact, this turns out to be a clean install that wiped out your
previous installation, you might do a search for "file recovery" on Google
and see if anything turns up that might be of use to you.

There is nothing Microsoft Customer Service would be able to do, this is not
a function of the operating system and note, if you are unable to find your
files by running a search as I outlined, you will be spending a lot more
than $35 if you need to use a recovery service.

One defence against this sort of debacle is to keep documents and data
off C:, by partitioning the HD into separate volumes. That's been my
SOP since 1995, for this and other reasons.


However, XP makes this needlessly difficult, because the ASSumption
your data is on C: is hardwired into the OS, and is hard to change.

First: An end user generally has to use add-on tools such as TweakUI
to relocate what is referred to as the "shell folders", some of which
("My Videos") may not exist straight after installation. When using
TweakUI for this purpose, you'd be warned that what you are doing can
break things; appropriate, but off-putting.

Second: The settings you apply affect only the user account you are
working in. You have to repeat everything in each user account.

Third: There is no easy (or even moderately difficult) way to set the
OS so that all newly-created accounts will use your preferred drive
letter and path for these shell folders. As soon as someone creates a
new account - say, because Johnny doesn't like Mary's choice of
wallpaper - all your settings are lost, MS duhfaults back in force.


How would I fix this, if I designed the OS? Pretty much the way that
well-designed application installers work - by prompting the user for
such settings at install time.

TweakUI's warnings apply to changing these things after the OS is
already installed, because you can get your mileage; "hey, all my
data's gone!". It's far safer to set these during installation, and
then maintain these settings as the new system defaults.
You would have saved yourself considerable heart ache if you
made a backup of your files. Note the third line of my signature.

"Just backup" is good, but simplistic advice. There are several
things that go wrong with backup, so the system should avoid
circumstances that force you to rely on this safety net.

Tools

As it is, home users with XP may not have the tools needed to do this.
Perhaps the hardware lacks a high-capacity backup device such as a CD
writer, and then there's the fact that XP doesn't install the backup
utility by default, and that OEM XP CDs may not even have Backup.

That's before you contemplate whether MS Backup is fit for use - i.e.
does it span CDRs and so on.

Locations

Then the user has to figure out where the data is. It's not as simple
as grabbing all of "Documents and Settings" because MS's built-in CDR
support will fall over, because its workspace is *within* "Documents
and Settings". So the user has to drill down into each user profile
and cherry-pick directories and files.

It's not as easy as grabbing "My Documents", because that may be
bloated beyond CDR capacity by huge "My Videos", "My Music" and "My
Pictures" contained within this. Also, "My Documents" leaves out the
desktop and data stores for several MSware applications.

Now the guessing starts! Is it in "Application Data" or is it "Local
Settings\Application Data"? Should we grab everything there? Will
grabbing "Microsoft" get the email, or is that "Identities" this time?

Data Hygiene

This thread is about someone trying to kill a suspected active malware
infection. Why that should be so difficult is another story; it's
relevant to this one only in that the user clearly doesn't want to
restore the malware back with the data.

But embedded within "My Documents" is "My Recieved Files", which is
where incoming Messenger attachments get dumped. Incoming emaul
attackments are embedded within OE mailboxes or Outlook's .PST where
they cannot be scanned, and IE defaults to saving downloads in "My
Documents" too. So the chances of malware being located within the
data set border on the inevitable.


Now I'm not saying you shouldn't make backups.

What I'm saying is that it's unacceptably glib to wave "you should
have made backups" as a generic blame-the-user statement when things
go wrong, because making backups that work is not a trivial matter.


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'Parade of New Products' with a shovel.
 
cquirke said:
However, XP makes this needlessly difficult, because the ASSumption
your data is on C: is hardwired into the OS, and is hard to change.

First: An end user generally has to use add-on tools such as TweakUI
to relocate what is referred to as the "shell folders", some of which
("My Videos") may not exist straight after installation. When using
TweakUI for this purpose, you'd be warned that what you are doing can
break things; appropriate, but off-putting.

The easy way is to open My Computer windows on the second drive, and
another on C:\Documents and settings\currentusername to show the folders
then *right* drag, Move here across
 

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