WinXP dual boot with w2k server

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I would like to install w2k server on my WinXP installed system.
I come up with a procedure by gooling and I need some confirmation to
prevent disaster.
Please comment it if I am wrong.
1> backup the NTDETECT.COM and NTLDR (WinXP version) from c:\ to floppy.
2> install W2K server to a D: drive which is NTFS. (created in advance)
3> boot from W2K server
4> overwrite the (W2K version) NTDETECT.COM and NTLDR by the backuped
NTDETECT.COM and NTLDR(WinXP version)
5> modify the boot.ini, append the entry for WinXP.
6> reboot -> then we can have a menu for selecting W2K server or WinXP

Does the above procedure correct?
Thanks a lot
 
|>I would like to install w2k server on my WinXP installed system.
|>I come up with a procedure by gooling and I need some confirmation to
|>prevent disaster.
|>Please comment it if I am wrong.
|>1> backup the NTDETECT.COM and NTLDR (WinXP version) from c:\ to floppy.
|>2> install W2K server to a D: drive which is NTFS. (created in advance)
|>3> boot from W2K server
|>4> overwrite the (W2K version) NTDETECT.COM and NTLDR by the backuped
|>NTDETECT.COM and NTLDR(WinXP version)
|>5> modify the boot.ini, append the entry for WinXP.
|>6> reboot -> then we can have a menu for selecting W2K server or WinXP
|>
|>Does the above procedure correct?
|>Thanks a lot
|>

Sounds good, the boot.ini should update itself.

Since your using a floppy you might take the extra step of backing up
the MBR before installing W2K, just incase.
http://www.diydatarecovery.nl/mbrtool.htm
 
I have a concern here.
The boot sector of XP in C: originally is replaced by the boot sector of W2K
server.
Will this be a problem?
There are 2 files involve in this procedure.
NTLDR (Loader) and NTDETECT.COM
what are they and what are the functions of them?
Thanx
 
|>I have a concern here.
|>The boot sector of XP in C: originally is replaced by the boot sector of W2K
|>server.
|>Will this be a problem?

Both will write to the MBR, if there is a problem replacing a back'd
up copy of the MBR is just quicker if a problem is encounter'd.

|>There are 2 files involve in this procedure.
|>NTLDR (Loader) and NTDETECT.COM
|>what are they and what are the functions of them?

One is called to run from the MBR and the other reads the boot.ini and
loads windows. Google would explain them better.

|>"Trax" <[email protected]>
|>???????:[email protected]...
|>>
|>> |>I would like to install w2k server on my WinXP installed system.
|>> |>I come up with a procedure by gooling and I need some confirmation to
|>> |>prevent disaster.
|>> |>Please comment it if I am wrong.
|>> |>1> backup the NTDETECT.COM and NTLDR (WinXP version) from c:\ to floppy.
|>> |>2> install W2K server to a D: drive which is NTFS. (created in advance)
|>> |>3> boot from W2K server
|>> |>4> overwrite the (W2K version) NTDETECT.COM and NTLDR by the backuped
|>> |>NTDETECT.COM and NTLDR(WinXP version)
|>> |>5> modify the boot.ini, append the entry for WinXP.
|>> |>6> reboot -> then we can have a menu for selecting W2K server or WinXP
|>> |>
|>> |>Does the above procedure correct?
|>> |>Thanks a lot
|>> |>
|>>
|>> Sounds good, the boot.ini should update itself.
|>>
|>> Since your using a floppy you might take the extra step of backing up
|>> the MBR before installing W2K, just incase.
|>> http://www.diydatarecovery.nl/mbrtool.htm
|>>
|>>
|>>
|>> --
|>> Time Wasting Sites on the Net
|>> http://freebies.about.com/od/710/tp/timewasting.htm
|>
|>
 
Trax said:
|>I have a concern here.
|>The boot sector of XP in C: originally is replaced by the boot sector of W2K
|>server.
|>Will this be a problem?

Both will write to the MBR, if there is a problem replacing a back'd
up copy of the MBR is just quicker if a problem is encounter'd.

If they are two physical drives the 2K install shouldn't touch the MBR
of the 1st drive when installing to the second disk, but it will
overwrite ntldr, ntdetect.com and boot.ini on C: with its version of
them. That's why the best way to create dual boot XP & 2K is to install
2K first, then XP. Still, I agree that backing up the MBR is not a bad
move anyway. I've used a simple program named boot.com for this, but
it's difficult to find on the net anymore. Even if drive C: and D: are
two partitions on the same physical drive the MBR is generic for all
Windows versions since W98, so it shouldn't really matter. What does
matter is ntldr, boot.ini and ntdtecet.com. In the end you want the XP
versions of these files on C:, however that is accomplished.

Other, non-MS OSes (such as Linux) can install a bootloader to the
actual MBR, but that is not appliable here.
|>There are 2 files involve in this procedure.
|>NTLDR (Loader) and NTDETECT.COM
|>what are they and what are the functions of them?

One is called to run from the MBR and the other reads the boot.ini and
loads windows. Google would explain them better.

Ntldr is the boot loader, it starts the file system, reads boot.ini then
starts ntdetect.com that does basic hardware and hardware profile
detection. Ntldr then starts ntoskrnl.exe and provides it with
information obtained from Ntdetect.com.

Steve N.
 
I have set the BIOS to boot from CDROM as the first priority.
I expect the system will prompt me to press any key to boot from CDROM, but
it doesnt.
It just go straight to boot the XP.
What should I do to correct it?
Thanks
 
|>I have set the BIOS to boot from CDROM as the first priority.
|>I expect the system will prompt me to press any key to boot from CDROM, but
|>it doesnt.
|>It just go straight to boot the XP.
|>What should I do to correct it?
|>Thanks

You can copy your i386, support directories and all start up files to
your hard drive and install from there.

Boot up into XP, run your W2K startup, clean install, select you will
pick which partition to install it to, and it does the rest.

I've done this before, after you install W2K, you will not be able to
boot into XP, until you copy the files you have set aside for this.

|>"Steve N." <[email protected]>
|>???????:[email protected]...
|>> Trax wrote:
|>>
|>> >
|>> > |>I have a concern here.
|>> > |>The boot sector of XP in C: originally is replaced by the boot sector
|>of W2K
|>> > |>server.
|>> > |>Will this be a problem?
|>> >
|>> > Both will write to the MBR, if there is a problem replacing a back'd
|>> > up copy of the MBR is just quicker if a problem is encounter'd.
|>>
|>> If they are two physical drives the 2K install shouldn't touch the MBR
|>> of the 1st drive when installing to the second disk, but it will
|>> overwrite ntldr, ntdetect.com and boot.ini on C: with its version of
|>> them. That's why the best way to create dual boot XP & 2K is to install
|>> 2K first, then XP. Still, I agree that backing up the MBR is not a bad
|>> move anyway. I've used a simple program named boot.com for this, but
|>> it's difficult to find on the net anymore. Even if drive C: and D: are
|>> two partitions on the same physical drive the MBR is generic for all
|>> Windows versions since W98, so it shouldn't really matter. What does
|>> matter is ntldr, boot.ini and ntdtecet.com. In the end you want the XP
|>> versions of these files on C:, however that is accomplished.
|>>
|>> Other, non-MS OSes (such as Linux) can install a bootloader to the
|>> actual MBR, but that is not appliable here.
|>>
|>> >
|>> > |>There are 2 files involve in this procedure.
|>> > |>NTLDR (Loader) and NTDETECT.COM
|>> > |>what are they and what are the functions of them?
|>> >
|>> > One is called to run from the MBR and the other reads the boot.ini and
|>> > loads windows. Google would explain them better.
|>>
|>> Ntldr is the boot loader, it starts the file system, reads boot.ini then
|>> starts ntdetect.com that does basic hardware and hardware profile
|>> detection. Ntldr then starts ntoskrnl.exe and provides it with
|>> information obtained from Ntdetect.com.
|>>
|>> Steve N.
|>>
|>> >
|>> > |>"Trax" <[email protected]>
|>> > |>???????:[email protected]...
|>> > |>>
|>> > |>> |>I would like to install w2k server on my WinXP installed system.
|>> > |>> |>I come up with a procedure by gooling and I need some confirmation
|>to
|>> > |>> |>prevent disaster.
|>> > |>> |>Please comment it if I am wrong.
|>> > |>> |>1> backup the NTDETECT.COM and NTLDR (WinXP version) from c:\ to
|>floppy.
|>> > |>> |>2> install W2K server to a D: drive which is NTFS. (created in
|>advance)
|>> > |>> |>3> boot from W2K server
|>> > |>> |>4> overwrite the (W2K version) NTDETECT.COM and NTLDR by the
|>backuped
|>> > |>> |>NTDETECT.COM and NTLDR(WinXP version)
|>> > |>> |>5> modify the boot.ini, append the entry for WinXP.
|>> > |>> |>6> reboot -> then we can have a menu for selecting W2K server or
|>WinXP
|>> > |>> |>
|>> > |>> |>Does the above procedure correct?
|>> > |>> |>Thanks a lot
|>> > |>> |>
|>> > |>>
|>> > |>> Sounds good, the boot.ini should update itself.
|>> > |>>
|>> > |>> Since your using a floppy you might take the extra step of backing
|>up
|>> > |>> the MBR before installing W2K, just incase.
|>> > |>> http://www.diydatarecovery.nl/mbrtool.htm
|>> > |>>
|>> > |>>
|>> > |>>
|>> > |>> --
|>> > |>> Time Wasting Sites on the Net
|>> > |>> http://freebies.about.com/od/710/tp/timewasting.htm
|>> > |>
|>> > |>
|>> >
|>> >
|>>
|>
|>
 
No, it cannot.
I copied the whole CDROM to C:\ and run WINNT32 and setup.
It complains the versions are not compatible for WINNT32 and complains the
existing version is newer for setup.
Thanks
 
a said:
I have set the BIOS to boot from CDROM as the first priority.
I expect the system will prompt me to press any key to boot from CDROM, but
it doesnt.
It just go straight to boot the XP.
What should I do to correct it?
Thanks

Is this a system with two physical hard disks or a single hard disk with
two partitions?

Steve N.
 
Trax said:
|>I have set the BIOS to boot from CDROM as the first priority.
|>I expect the system will prompt me to press any key to boot from CDROM, but
|>it doesnt.
|>It just go straight to boot the XP.
|>What should I do to correct it?
|>Thanks

You can copy your i386, support directories and all start up files to
your hard drive and install from there.

Boot up into XP, run your W2K startup, clean install, select you will
pick which partition to install it to, and it does the rest.

That's not going to work. You cannot run setup for a previous version of
Windows from within XP. You will ge the same error the OP got.
I've done this before,
Really?

after you install W2K, you will not be able to
boot into XP, until you copy the files you have set aside for this.

The only way I can see to do this is if the OP can boot the 2K CD, which
he can't ATM. We need to trouble-shoot that problem 1st.

And as I said before, the only truly reliable way to dual boot 2K and XP
is to install 2K first, then XP. Yes, I have read articles on how to do
it other way `round, but as we can see, it's a bit of a crap-shoot,
isn't it?

Steve N.
 
a said:
Single harddisk, 2 partitions.
Thanks

Ok. That may make a difference, but we really need to figure out why the
Win2K CD won't boot in your box. Will it boot in another machine? Will
an XP CD boot in your machine? Will any bootable CD boot in your
machine? If not have you checked the CDROM drive cabling and jumpering
or substituted another CDROM drive?

Steve N.
 
Steve said:
Ok. That may make a difference, but we really need to figure out why the
Win2K CD won't boot in your box. Will it boot in another machine? Will
an XP CD boot in your machine? Will any bootable CD boot in your
machine? If not have you checked the CDROM drive cabling and jumpering
or substituted another CDROM drive?

Steve N.

As a test last night I installed Win2K on the second partition of a disk
with WinXP already on the first partition. Backing up and copying back
the WinXP ntldr, netdetect.com and boot.ini files was all that was
necessary. Otherwise it was a piece of cake.

I am certain that there is something wrong with your CDROM drive or your
Win2K CD if it won't boot.

Steve N.
 

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