windows xp wont display on 14" monitor

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just loaded a fresh install win xp and shifted the machine to its new
home and it doesnt like the 14" monitor we want to use it with.....
we cant change the display depth below 16bit......we can only see
windows in safe mode it just shows a garbled screen in normal mode
what can be done??
zz
 
zz said:
just loaded a fresh install win xp and shifted the machine to its new
home and it doesnt like the 14" monitor we want to use it with.....
we cant change the display depth below 16bit......we can only see
windows in safe mode it just shows a garbled screen in normal mode
what can be done??
zz
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Sounds like the refresh or resolution are set too high in normal mode.
Have you tried booting into VGA mode (safe mode menu area) and setting
the display settings appropriately there and then saving them?

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zz said:
just loaded a fresh install win xp and shifted the machine to its new
home and it doesnt like the 14" monitor we want to use it with.....
we cant change the display depth below 16bit......we can only see
windows in safe mode it just shows a garbled screen in normal mode
what can be done??
zz
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XP defaults to 800x600 60Hz (and that's the minimum 'normal' setting in
Display Properties) but your 14 inch monitor likely can't handle more than
640x480 60Hz or if it can handle 800x600 only at less than 60Hz refresh,
either 56 Hz or 43/86 interlaced. Note that the display card must also
support the refresh rate and many don't support interlaced and some don't
support less than 60 Hz either.

Push F8 when you boot and select enable VGA mode to get 640x480 60Hz. Then
set the Display Properties once you're in to something the monitor can handle.
 
zz said:
just loaded a fresh install win xp and shifted the machine to its new we
cant change the display depth below 16bit......we
can only see windows in safe mode it just shows a garbled screen in normal
mode what can be done?
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I use Mozilla so I can't help you out.
zz.
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It could be worse, zz. Your insides could be rotting and falling out of your
arse.
 
just loaded a fresh install win xp and shifted the machine to its new
home and it doesnt like the 14" monitor we want to use it with.....
we cant change the display depth below 16bit......we can only see
windows in safe mode it just shows a garbled screen in normal mode
what can be done??
zz
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THat's because the monitor is a very old one and probably only supports
640x480.

Monitors are dirt cheap. www.itdealers.co.uk will do you a 17" one for
under £30 - £17.50 if you're really stingy.
 
its not XP, its your video adapter and its resolution and the inability for
your monitor to accept its lowest settings.
 
zz said:
just loaded a fresh install win xp and shifted the machine to its new
home and it doesnt like the 14" monitor we want to use it with.....
we cant change the display depth below 16bit......we can only see
windows in safe mode it just shows a garbled screen in normal mode
what can be done??
zz
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Flip the monitor around and get all the details about the manufacturer
from the label on the back by the power cord. Then go to
http://www.monitorworld.com and research the abilities of the monitor.

Display Properties > Settings tab > Advanced button > Adapter tab > List
All Modes button > scroll up to 640x480 at 60Hz. Once you get that
working with a normal boot, you can try various other sizes and
frequencies. If the monitor can't display one, it should revert to
640x480 at 60 after 15 seconds.
 
JAD said:
its not XP, its your video adapter and its resolution and the inability for
your monitor to accept its lowest settings.
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No, they can see windows in safe mode, so obviously the monitor and card
can work together. Further, if they can see the POST screen then the
monitor and card are fine. It's an XP thing and I've had to deal with it
on two occaisions this week when people switched from CRT to LCD
monitors and windows refused to auto-detect the change (but not vice versa).


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pcbutts1 said:
I use Mozilla so I can't help you out.
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That's obvious, so why do you bother to respond if you can't help?

In any case it sounds to me like the person asking for help is asking for
technical information. I'd be surprised if he didn't know how to go out.
 
Don Williams said:
That's obvious, so why do you bother to respond if you can't help?
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What makes you so sure I can't help, Williams?
In any case it sounds to me like the person asking for help is asking
for technical information.
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People don't want anyone to be what they really are.
I'd be surprised if he didn't know how to go out.
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If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about.
 
wrong it sees it in safe mode because its using 'standard VGA' if you want
that then your not 'really' using your adapter and the color will be jacked.
Its not XP, I have had it happen on every windows made.
 
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quit letting John Doe and the other dimwits from that group ruin this one.
 
JAD said:
wrong it sees it in safe mode because its using 'standard VGA' if you want
that then your not 'really' using your adapter and the color will be jacked.
Its not XP, I have had it happen on every windows made.
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You said "inability accept its lowest settings", and the fact that it
can be seen proves otherwise. Perhaps you meant something different
about the driver's lowest settings, but that's not what you wrote.


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neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
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transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/
 
JAD said:
wrong it sees it in safe mode because its using 'standard VGA' if you want
that then your not 'really' using your adapter and the color will be jacked.
Its not XP, I have had it happen on every windows made.
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The reason they only see it in safe mode is because XP defaults to 800x600
minimum. If they set it to 640x480 60Hz (or a 800x600 56Hz or interlaced
mode if the monitor supports it) they can also set the color depth to the
whole rainbow.
 
spodosaurus said:
You said "inability accept its lowest settings", and the fact that it
can be seen proves otherwise. Perhaps you meant something different
about the driver's lowest settings, but that's not what you wrote.
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sigh


if you are using standard VGA u are not using the adapters driver. although
it is SEEN in safe mode, its size is jacked AND the color is degraded. I did
not say anything about a driver...I said the ADAPTERS lowest settings (using
the adapters driver). Again you are NOT using the adapters driver when you
are at standard VGA in safe mode.
 
JAD said:
sigh


if you are using standard VGA u are not using the adapters driver.
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That was my point. You said that the video card was not compatible with
their monitor. That is false. If it were true you would not get a usable
image, even in safe mode. You could not even see the POST screens. You
said it was the adapter, and you are obviously wrong.
although
it is SEEN in safe mode, its size is jacked AND the color is degraded.
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Because the settings in XP are the problem, not the adapter. You won't
get great views with that old monitor, but there is no hardware
incompatibility like you claimed.
I did
not say anything about a driver...I said the ADAPTERS lowest settings (using
the adapters driver).
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That's true, you didn't say anything about a driver. You claimed a
hardware incompatibility where there was none, and now you're trying to
weasel out of it and are now making claims about the driver. Adding
those claims after the fact in parentheses when I'm the one who
mentioned what you were REALLY trying to say is a bit transparent.
Again you are NOT using the adapters driver when you
are at standard VGA in safe mode.
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Exactly my point: the hardware incompatibility that you claimed does not
exist. You were wrong. The video adapter can provide settings that are
usable, if not, there would be no visible POST screen and no viewable
image in safe mode. Michael and I have both corrected you. I even gave
you a way out, seeing as you have this terrible inability to admit a
mistake of typing. Then you go and contradict yourself in the same
sentence, making you look like a blork.

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hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/
 
spodosaurus said:
That was my point. You said that the video card was not compatible with
their monitor. That is false. If it were true you would not get a usable
image, even in safe mode. You could not even see the POST screens. You
said it was the adapter, and you are obviously wrong.
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YOU ARE NOT USING THE ADAPTERS DRIVER IN SAFE
MODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Therefor you are NOT truely using the adapter other than that is what the
monitor is connected to. As soon as you load the driver (even at the lowest
settings allowed by that driver) the adapter is useless on that monitor, do
you get it?...........the adapter is useless with that monitor PERIOD. This
is a very common scenario when using old monitors (even some older LCD's)
with newer adapters. Sometimes you can get a setting that works but the
screen is not centered at any resolution, or the picture rolls , This is
unacceptable for me, maybe you run your machine in safe mode all the time
and have no problem squinting at your screen, not me.
 
JAD said:
YOU ARE NOT USING THE ADAPTERS DRIVER IN SAFE
MODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Therefor you are NOT truely using the adapter
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Then there would be now viewable image on the monitor. Hence, you're
still wrong. But feel free to keep trying to have the last word :-)


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transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/
 
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