Windows XP SP4

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Andy Siegel

Does anyone know if there are plans for XP SP4? I just installed XP SP3 and
ran the Windows Updates and needed 72 updates (on the first pass). I know we
should go to Win7, but we have a lot of XP out there.

Thank you,
 
S

smlunatick

Does anyone know if there are plans for XP SP4?  I just installed XP SP3 and
ran the Windows Updates and needed 72 updates (on the first pass).  I know we
should go to Win7, but we have a lot of XP out there.

Thank you,
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It has been widely shown on the Internet that Microsoft is never going
to ever have a SP4. SP3 is the last service pack "grouping" of
changes ever. Microsoft is no longer officially selling Windows XP.
The XP you are still able to buy is the stores are the remaining
"stocks" of XP.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Does anyone know if there are plans for XP SP4? I just installed XP SP3 and
ran the Windows Updates and needed 72 updates (on the first pass). I know we
should go to Win7, but we have a lot of XP out there.
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There have been two new versions of Windows since XP (Vista and 7),
and Microsoft no longer sells XP. XP is now obsolescent; it's highly
unlikely that there will be any more service packs for it.
 
V

VanguardLH

Andy said:
Does anyone know if there are plans for XP SP4? I just installed XP SP3 and
ran the Windows Updates and needed 72 updates (on the first pass). I know we
should go to Win7, but we have a lot of XP out there.

Thank you,
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Microsoft doesn't produce service packs for unsupported products.

http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=3223

Mainstream support ended 3 days ago. It's dead. All you get now are
functional updates that are either considered part of security updates or
can be applied to code branches for their newer and supported versions;
however, those won't get rolled into a service pack.

When you went to Windows Update, did you first apply just SP-3 (which rolls
together SP-1, SP-2, and post SP-2 patches)? First install the latest
service pack, then go check for later updates.
 
L

LD55ZRA

Andy said:
Does anyone know if there are plans for XP SP4? I just installed XP SP3 and
ran the Windows Updates and needed 72 updates (on the first pass). I know we
should go to Win7, but we have a lot of XP out there.

Thank you,
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Unlikely but I don't think you are going to miss it because Microsoft
patches are patches for the sake of creating jobs for programmers who
wouldn't have anything else to do. The only patch you should look out
for is in April 1914 when Microsoft would be required to issue a
non-activation tool for Windows XP. If they don't, then look out for
a class action by users of Windows XP.

hth


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LD55ZRA

LD55ZRA said:
Unlikely but I don't think you are going to miss it because Microsoft
patches are patches for the sake of creating jobs for programmers who
wouldn't have anything else to do. The only patch you should look out
for is in April 1914 when Microsoft would be required to issue a
non-activation tool for Windows XP. If they don't, then look out
for a class action by users of Windows XP.

hth
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The above date should be read as 14 April 2014. Also, there is
absolutely no point in installing any updates post SP3 because there is
no evidence they make your system any better or increase the level of
security.

I have not installed any and I have completely blocked all Windows and
Office Updates reaching none of the systems under my control.

hth


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Copyright LD55ZRA 2010.
 
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Unknown

Still playing stupid I see. Well, you're winning.
LD55ZRA said:
Unlikely but I don't think you are going to miss it because Microsoft
patches are patches for the sake of creating jobs for programmers who
wouldn't have anything else to do. The only patch you should look out for
is in April 1914 when Microsoft would be required to issue a
non-activation tool for Windows XP. If they don't, then look out for a
class action by users of Windows XP.

hth


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KIND. LD55ZRA DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EITHER EXPRESSED OR
IMPLIED, INCLUDING THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND
FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. IN NO EVENT SHALL LD55ZRA
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INCLUDING DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, LOSS OF
BUSINESS PROFITS OR SPECIAL DAMAGES, EVEN IF LD55ZRA OR ITS
ASSOCIATES HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH
DAMAGES. SOME STATES DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR
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Unknown

How can you state the following? Wouldn't it be beneficial to release a
service pack
to tie up all the loose ends?

.. All you get now are
functional updates that are either considered part of security updates or
can be applied to code branches for their newer and supported versions;
however, those won't get rolled into a service pack.
 
V

VanguardLH

Unknown said:
How can you state the following? Wouldn't it be beneficial to release a
service pack
to tie up all the loose ends?

. All you get now are
functional updates that are either considered part of security updates or
can be applied to code branches for their newer and supported versions;
however, those won't get rolled into a service pack.
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When you own 51% of Microsoft's stock then you can tell them what YOU would
like them to do.
 
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Unknown

It has absolutely nothing to do with what I would like them to do. It is
your statement
"those won't get rolled into a service pack". You seem to be absolutely sure
of that.
 
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kraut

It has absolutely nothing to do with what I would like them to do. It is
your statement
"those won't get rolled into a service pack". You seem to be absolutely sure
of that.
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K

kraut

It has absolutely nothing to do with what I would like them to do. It is
your statement
"those won't get rolled into a service pack". You seem to be absolutely sure
of that.
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V

VanguardLH

Unknown said:
VanguardLH wrote ...


It has absolutely nothing to do with what I would like them to do. It is
your statement "those won't get rolled into a service pack". You seem to
be absolutely sure of that.
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When was the last time you saw a service pack for Windows 286, 286, 3.x,
95, 98, ME, NT3.5, NT4.0, or Windows 2000? There were updates long after
the last service pack. They are mostly security updates. They NEVER got
rolled into a service pack. History told me what Microsoft does, as well
as every other software vendor regarding what are considered standard
practices for unsupported software.

So what did you produce a decade ago that you still FULLY support and on
what you waste your time that generates you no revenue?
 
M

Michael

VanguardLH said:
When was the last time you saw a service pack for Windows 286, 286, 3.x,
95, 98, ME, NT3.5, NT4.0, or Windows 2000? There were updates long after
the last service pack. They are mostly security updates. They NEVER got
rolled into a service pack. History told me what Microsoft does, as well
as every other software vendor regarding what are considered standard
practices for unsupported software.

So what did you produce a decade ago that you still FULLY support and on
what you waste your time that generates you no revenue?
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His kids?
 
C

Charles

Microsoft doesn't produce service packs for unsupported products.

http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=3223

Mainstream support ended 3 days ago. It's dead. All you get now are
functional updates that are either considered part of security updates or
can be applied to code branches for their newer and supported versions;
however, those won't get rolled into a service pack.

When you went to Windows Update, did you first apply just SP-3 (which rolls
together SP-1, SP-2, and post SP-2 patches)? First install the latest
service pack, then go check for later updates.
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Vanguard MS mainstream support for Windows XP actually ended 1 year and
3 days ago not 3 days ago. April 14, 2009 not 2010 ;) So really 1 year
and 5 days ago now ;)

Charles
 
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VanguardLH

Charles said:
Vanguard MS mainstream support for Windows XP actually ended 1 year and
3 days ago not 3 days ago. April 14, 2009 not 2010 ;) So really 1 year
and 5 days ago now ;)

Charles
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Oops, my bad. Since Microsoft hasn't produced a service pack in that year's
time nor for any other product that became unsupported, tis further proof
that there will be no further service packs for Windows XP.
 
B

Billns

Does anyone know if there are plans for XP SP4? I just installed XP SP3 and
ran the Windows Updates and needed 72 updates (on the first pass). I know we
should go to Win7, but we have a lot of XP out there.

Thank you,
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Some would say that MS has already released XP SP4, only they labeled it
Windows 7.

Don't expect any more SP's for XP, although there will be security
updates for XP SP3 through 2014.

Bill
 
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smlunatick

Some would say that MS has already released XP SP4, only they labeled it
Windows 7.

Don't expect any more SP's for XP, although there will be security
updates for XP SP3 through 2014.

Bill
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If you would take it that way, Vista SP1 would have been XP SP4, Vista
SP2 would be XP SP4.5 and Windows 7 as XP SP5.
 

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