windows xp on second hard drive...

[tobegone]

hello all - this is my first post to this group...
i currently have a primary master hard drive with manufacturer installed
windows me as the os. i recently put in a second hard drive as the
slave...i want to put windows xp home on it. i purchased the windows xp
home upgrade version, as i still have the windows me reinstall disc that
Dell provided when i purchased the pc back in 2000. can someone please
advise (step by step - i'm no novice by any means, but no expert, either) as
to how i do this? i have already tried it via the windows startup floppy
followed with the me reinstall disc (that's as far as i got - didn't even
get to the step of putting xp upgrade "over" the me) - i only succeeded in
having a 'safe' desktop come up at bootup with no access to my primary 'C'
drive. i had to employ my full backup of my 'C'drive to re-enable my to
access my the drive (luckily for me i had a full backup, including os on
three dvd-rw's). so... can anyone tell me how to do this correctly?
thanks, so much!!
dell dimension 4100
1 gig processor
512 ram
80 gig hard drive 'C'
80 gig hard drive 'D' (the new one)
i do have partition magic 8.0 which i have not utilized yet...

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

The Dell reinstall cd is not a qualifying copy of Windows that you can use
during the installation of XP on the new drive. You need XP Home full.

You can use the XP Home upgrade cd to upgrade the installed ME on drive C:,
but you have no way to use the upgrade cd to do a clean install of Home on
the second drive. An XP Home upgrade cd is capable of doing a clean
install, but the installer will request proof that you own a qualifying
product. OEM and reinstall cd's are not qualifying copies of Windows.

To install XP on the new drive in your situation you need either XP Home
full, or have access to a retail cd from a previous version of Windows, such
as Win98 or ME that the XP Home upgrade installer will accept as qualifying.
You purchased the wrong version of XP Home.

 

[tobegone]

thanks for the quick response...
just for clarification - i have the oem version of windows me on my c drive.
what is the process i'd use to put windows me on my second hard drive (d)?
can i use the windows me reinstall disc provided by dell? i did try that
initially, but during the process, i got error boxes telling me that dll
files 'msvcp71.dll' and 'vsutil.dll' did not load (i subsequently copied
those files from my c drive windows/system file into the d drive
windows/system file that was created during the reinstall). after the
windows me reinstall attempt to d drive was done, a desktop opened in 'safe'
mode where everything was frozen. it was then that i executed the full c
drive backup from my three dvd-rw's so i could again access my c drive.
so, why, if i can use the (dell provided) windows me reinstall disc to put
me on my d drive, can i not use the xp upgrade to lay over it? why is it
not a 'recognized' version?? thanks again for the assistance!

The Dell reinstall cd is not a qualifying copy of Windows that you can use
during the installation of XP on the new drive. You need XP Home full.

You can use the XP Home upgrade cd to upgrade the installed ME on drive C:,
but you have no way to use the upgrade cd to do a clean install of Home on
the second drive. An XP Home upgrade cd is capable of doing a clean
install, but the installer will request proof that you own a qualifying
product. OEM and reinstall cd's are not qualifying copies of Windows.

To install XP on the new drive in your situation you need either XP Home
full, or have access to a retail cd from a previous version of Windows, such
as Win98 or ME that the XP Home upgrade installer will accept as qualifying.
You purchased the wrong version of XP Home.



--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]

hello all - this is my first post to this group...
i currently have a primary master hard drive with manufacturer installed
windows me as the os. i recently put in a second hard drive as the
slave...i want to put windows xp home on it. i purchased the windows xp
home upgrade version, as i still have the windows me reinstall disc that
Dell provided when i purchased the pc back in 2000. can someone please
advise (step by step - i'm no novice by any means, but no expert, either)
as
to how i do this? i have already tried it via the windows startup floppy
followed with the me reinstall disc (that's as far as i got - didn't even
get to the step of putting xp upgrade "over" the me) - i only succeeded
in
having a 'safe' desktop come up at bootup with no access to my primary 'C'
drive. i had to employ my full backup of my 'C'drive to re-enable my to
access my the drive (luckily for me i had a full backup, including os on
three dvd-rw's). so... can anyone tell me how to do this correctly?
thanks, so much!!
dell dimension 4100
1 gig processor
512 ram
80 gig hard drive 'C'
80 gig hard drive 'D' (the new one)
i do have partition magic 8.0 which i have not utilized yet...

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

No. You would have to remove the present C: drive first and use the new
drive as the only drive in the box. Then you should be able to run the
reinstall cd. But you still have a problem even if the XP upgrade works,
because when you move the drives around again you will not be able to boot
XP.

A multiboot system is created by having the XP installer detect that another
copy of Windows is installed and setting up software to protect the two
systems from each other and by setting up a boot options screen. This does
not happen by simply putting XP on the second hard drive and hooking it up.
It is done during the XP installation process.

If you got the XP Upgrade at a retail store and the box is still sealed,
return it and pay the difference for the full version.

Alternatively, and this is my favorite solution, find a friend with a retail
cd for an earlier version of Windows and just use that while installing XP
on the new hard drive. Or, go to eBay and buy one. You do not have to
install the earlier version, just have the cd on hand for the 30 seconds it
takes for the Upgrade installer to find the setup files and verify that it
is a qualifying product.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]

thanks for the quick response...
just for clarification - i have the oem version of windows me on my c
drive.
what is the process i'd use to put windows me on my second hard drive (d)?
can i use the windows me reinstall disc provided by dell? i did try that
initially, but during the process, i got error boxes telling me that dll
files 'msvcp71.dll' and 'vsutil.dll' did not load (i subsequently copied
those files from my c drive windows/system file into the d drive
windows/system file that was created during the reinstall). after the
windows me reinstall attempt to d drive was done, a desktop opened in
'safe'
mode where everything was frozen. it was then that i executed the full c
drive backup from my three dvd-rw's so i could again access my c drive.
so, why, if i can use the (dell provided) windows me reinstall disc to put
me on my d drive, can i not use the xp upgrade to lay over it? why is it
not a 'recognized' version?? thanks again for the assistance!

The Dell reinstall cd is not a qualifying copy of Windows that you can
use
during the installation of XP on the new drive. You need XP Home full.

You can use the XP Home upgrade cd to upgrade the installed ME on drive C:,
but you have no way to use the upgrade cd to do a clean install of Home
on
the second drive. An XP Home upgrade cd is capable of doing a clean
install, but the installer will request proof that you own a qualifying
product. OEM and reinstall cd's are not qualifying copies of Windows.

To install XP on the new drive in your situation you need either XP Home
full, or have access to a retail cd from a previous version of Windows, such
as Win98 or ME that the XP Home upgrade installer will accept as qualifying.
You purchased the wrong version of XP Home.



--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]

hello all - this is my first post to this group...
i currently have a primary master hard drive with manufacturer
installed
windows me as the os. i recently put in a second hard drive as the
slave...i want to put windows xp home on it. i purchased the windows
xp
home upgrade version, as i still have the windows me reinstall disc
that
Dell provided when i purchased the pc back in 2000. can someone please
advise (step by step - i'm no novice by any means, but no expert, either)
as
to how i do this? i have already tried it via the windows startup floppy
followed with the me reinstall disc (that's as far as i got - didn't even
get to the step of putting xp upgrade "over" the me) - i only
succeeded
in
having a 'safe' desktop come up at bootup with no access to my primary 'C'
drive. i had to employ my full backup of my 'C'drive to re-enable my
to
access my the drive (luckily for me i had a full backup, including os
on
three dvd-rw's). so... can anyone tell me how to do this correctly?
thanks, so much!!
dell dimension 4100
1 gig processor
512 ram
80 gig hard drive 'C'
80 gig hard drive 'D' (the new one)
i do have partition magic 8.0 which i have not utilized yet...

 

[tobegone]

thanks, man...
ok, so i can follow your last suggestion to go about using the upgrade
version to get xp on my second (d) drive...now if i do that first, and then
afterwards want to replace my c drive with a new one (i think it's about to
die because i'm hearing all sorts of troublesome sounds from it lately),
i'll be able to use my backup (complete backup, including os and files)
that's on the three dvd-rw's to reinstall the old c drive's contents on the
new c drive - right?? please say yes!
by the way, i do have partition magic which includes boot magic for choosing
which os to open up at bootup. thanks, again!

No. You would have to remove the present C: drive first and use the new
drive as the only drive in the box. Then you should be able to run the
reinstall cd. But you still have a problem even if the XP upgrade works,
because when you move the drives around again you will not be able to boot
XP.

A multiboot system is created by having the XP installer detect that another
copy of Windows is installed and setting up software to protect the two
systems from each other and by setting up a boot options screen. This does
not happen by simply putting XP on the second hard drive and hooking it up.
It is done during the XP installation process.

If you got the XP Upgrade at a retail store and the box is still sealed,
return it and pay the difference for the full version.

Alternatively, and this is my favorite solution, find a friend with a retail
cd for an earlier version of Windows and just use that while installing XP
on the new hard drive. Or, go to eBay and buy one. You do not have to
install the earlier version, just have the cd on hand for the 30 seconds it
takes for the Upgrade installer to find the setup files and verify that it
is a qualifying product.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]

thanks for the quick response...
just for clarification - i have the oem version of windows me on my c
drive.
what is the process i'd use to put windows me on my second hard drive (d)?
can i use the windows me reinstall disc provided by dell? i did try that
initially, but during the process, i got error boxes telling me that dll
files 'msvcp71.dll' and 'vsutil.dll' did not load (i subsequently copied
those files from my c drive windows/system file into the d drive
windows/system file that was created during the reinstall). after the
windows me reinstall attempt to d drive was done, a desktop opened in
'safe'
mode where everything was frozen. it was then that i executed the full c
drive backup from my three dvd-rw's so i could again access my c drive.
so, why, if i can use the (dell provided) windows me reinstall disc to put
me on my d drive, can i not use the xp upgrade to lay over it? why is it
not a 'recognized' version?? thanks again for the assistance!

The Dell reinstall cd is not a qualifying copy of Windows that you can
use
during the installation of XP on the new drive. You need XP Home full.

You can use the XP Home upgrade cd to upgrade the installed ME on drive C:,
but you have no way to use the upgrade cd to do a clean install of Home
on
the second drive. An XP Home upgrade cd is capable of doing a clean
install, but the installer will request proof that you own a qualifying
product. OEM and reinstall cd's are not qualifying copies of Windows.

To install XP on the new drive in your situation you need either XP Home
full, or have access to a retail cd from a previous version of Windows, such
as Win98 or ME that the XP Home upgrade installer will accept as qualifying.
You purchased the wrong version of XP Home.



--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
hello all - this is my first post to this group...
i currently have a primary master hard drive with manufacturer
installed
windows me as the os. i recently put in a second hard drive as the
slave...i want to put windows xp home on it. i purchased the windows
xp
home upgrade version, as i still have the windows me reinstall disc
that
Dell provided when i purchased the pc back in 2000. can someone please
advise (step by step - i'm no novice by any means, but no expert, either)
as
to how i do this? i have already tried it via the windows startup floppy
followed with the me reinstall disc (that's as far as i got - didn't even
get to the step of putting xp upgrade "over" the me) - i only
succeeded
in
having a 'safe' desktop come up at bootup with no access to my

primary
'C'

drive. i had to employ my full backup of my 'C'drive to re-enable my
to
access my the drive (luckily for me i had a full backup, including os
on
three dvd-rw's). so... can anyone tell me how to do this correctly?
thanks, so much!!
dell dimension 4100
1 gig processor
512 ram
80 gig hard drive 'C'
80 gig hard drive 'D' (the new one)
i do have partition magic 8.0 which i have not utilized yet...

 

[tobegone]

....and you're saying i can install the windows xp upgrade on the empty d
drive without the drive having a previously installed os as long as i have a
cd for an earlier version of windows that i'll just use when the upgrade
installer asks for it in order to find setup files and verify that it's a
qualifying product?

thanks, man...
ok, so i can follow your last suggestion to go about using the upgrade
version to get xp on my second (d) drive...now if i do that first, and then
afterwards want to replace my c drive with a new one (i think it's about to
die because i'm hearing all sorts of troublesome sounds from it lately),
i'll be able to use my backup (complete backup, including os and files)
that's on the three dvd-rw's to reinstall the old c drive's contents on the
new c drive - right?? please say yes!
by the way, i do have partition magic which includes boot magic for choosing
which os to open up at bootup. thanks, again!

No. You would have to remove the present C: drive first and use the new
drive as the only drive in the box. Then you should be able to run the
reinstall cd. But you still have a problem even if the XP upgrade works,
because when you move the drives around again you will not be able to boot
XP.

A multiboot system is created by having the XP installer detect that another
copy of Windows is installed and setting up software to protect the two
systems from each other and by setting up a boot options screen. This does
not happen by simply putting XP on the second hard drive and hooking it up.
It is done during the XP installation process.

If you got the XP Upgrade at a retail store and the box is still sealed,
return it and pay the difference for the full version.

Alternatively, and this is my favorite solution, find a friend with a retail
cd for an earlier version of Windows and just use that while installing XP
on the new hard drive. Or, go to eBay and buy one. You do not have to
install the earlier version, just have the cd on hand for the 30 seconds it
takes for the Upgrade installer to find the setup files and verify that it
is a qualifying product.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]

thanks for the quick response...
just for clarification - i have the oem version of windows me on my c
drive.
what is the process i'd use to put windows me on my second hard drive (d)?
can i use the windows me reinstall disc provided by dell? i did try that
initially, but during the process, i got error boxes telling me that dll
files 'msvcp71.dll' and 'vsutil.dll' did not load (i subsequently copied
those files from my c drive windows/system file into the d drive
windows/system file that was created during the reinstall). after the
windows me reinstall attempt to d drive was done, a desktop opened in
'safe'
mode where everything was frozen. it was then that i executed the

full

c

drive backup from my three dvd-rw's so i could again access my c drive.
so, why, if i can use the (dell provided) windows me reinstall disc to put
me on my d drive, can i not use the xp upgrade to lay over it? why is it
not a 'recognized' version?? thanks again for the assistance!

The Dell reinstall cd is not a qualifying copy of Windows that you can
use
during the installation of XP on the new drive. You need XP Home full.

You can use the XP Home upgrade cd to upgrade the installed ME on drive
C:,
but you have no way to use the upgrade cd to do a clean install of Home
on
the second drive. An XP Home upgrade cd is capable of doing a clean
install, but the installer will request proof that you own a qualifying
product. OEM and reinstall cd's are not qualifying copies of Windows.

To install XP on the new drive in your situation you need either XP Home
full, or have access to a retail cd from a previous version of Windows,
such
as Win98 or ME that the XP Home upgrade installer will accept as
qualifying.
You purchased the wrong version of XP Home.



--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
hello all - this is my first post to this group...
i currently have a primary master hard drive with manufacturer
installed
windows me as the os. i recently put in a second hard drive as the
slave...i want to put windows xp home on it. i purchased the windows
xp
home upgrade version, as i still have the windows me reinstall disc
that
Dell provided when i purchased the pc back in 2000. can someone please
advise (step by step - i'm no novice by any means, but no expert,
either)
as
to how i do this? i have already tried it via the windows startup
floppy
followed with the me reinstall disc (that's as far as i got - didn't
even
get to the step of putting xp upgrade "over" the me) - i only
succeeded
in
having a 'safe' desktop come up at bootup with no access to my primary
'C'
drive. i had to employ my full backup of my 'C'drive to re-enable my
to
access my the drive (luckily for me i had a full backup, including os
on
three dvd-rw's). so... can anyone tell me how to do this correctly?
thanks, so much!!
dell dimension 4100
1 gig processor
512 ram
80 gig hard drive 'C'
80 gig hard drive 'D' (the new one)
i do have partition magic 8.0 which i have not utilized yet...

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Exactly. You only need a cd of a previous version of Windows for the
verification. This is the only step in doing a clean install that differs
from using an XP Home full version cd.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]

...and you're saying i can install the windows xp upgrade on the empty d
drive without the drive having a previously installed os as long as i have
a
cd for an earlier version of windows that i'll just use when the upgrade
installer asks for it in order to find setup files and verify that it's a
qualifying product?

thanks, man...
ok, so i can follow your last suggestion to go about using the upgrade
version to get xp on my second (d) drive...now if i do that first, and then
afterwards want to replace my c drive with a new one (i think it's about to
die because i'm hearing all sorts of troublesome sounds from it lately),
i'll be able to use my backup (complete backup, including os and files)
that's on the three dvd-rw's to reinstall the old c drive's contents on the
new c drive - right?? please say yes!
by the way, i do have partition magic which includes boot magic for choosing
which os to open up at bootup. thanks, again!

No. You would have to remove the present C: drive first and use the
new
drive as the only drive in the box. Then you should be able to run the
reinstall cd. But you still have a problem even if the XP upgrade works,
because when you move the drives around again you will not be able to boot
XP.

A multiboot system is created by having the XP installer detect that another
copy of Windows is installed and setting up software to protect the two
systems from each other and by setting up a boot options screen. This does
not happen by simply putting XP on the second hard drive and hooking it up.
It is done during the XP installation process.

If you got the XP Upgrade at a retail store and the box is still
sealed,
return it and pay the difference for the full version.

Alternatively, and this is my favorite solution, find a friend with a retail
cd for an earlier version of Windows and just use that while installing XP
on the new hard drive. Or, go to eBay and buy one. You do not have to
install the earlier version, just have the cd on hand for the 30
seconds it
takes for the Upgrade installer to find the setup files and verify that it
is a qualifying product.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
thanks for the quick response...
just for clarification - i have the oem version of windows me on my c
drive.
what is the process i'd use to put windows me on my second hard drive (d)?
can i use the windows me reinstall disc provided by dell? i did try that
initially, but during the process, i got error boxes telling me that dll
files 'msvcp71.dll' and 'vsutil.dll' did not load (i subsequently copied
those files from my c drive windows/system file into the d drive
windows/system file that was created during the reinstall). after
the
windows me reinstall attempt to d drive was done, a desktop opened in
'safe'
mode where everything was frozen. it was then that i executed the

full

c
drive backup from my three dvd-rw's so i could again access my c drive.
so, why, if i can use the (dell provided) windows me reinstall disc
to put
me on my d drive, can i not use the xp upgrade to lay over it? why
is it
not a 'recognized' version?? thanks again for the assistance!

The Dell reinstall cd is not a qualifying copy of Windows that you can
use
during the installation of XP on the new drive. You need XP Home full.

You can use the XP Home upgrade cd to upgrade the installed ME on drive
C:,
but you have no way to use the upgrade cd to do a clean install of Home
on
the second drive. An XP Home upgrade cd is capable of doing a clean
install, but the installer will request proof that you own a qualifying
product. OEM and reinstall cd's are not qualifying copies of Windows.

To install XP on the new drive in your situation you need either XP Home
full, or have access to a retail cd from a previous version of Windows,
such
as Win98 or ME that the XP Home upgrade installer will accept as
qualifying.
You purchased the wrong version of XP Home.



--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
hello all - this is my first post to this group...
i currently have a primary master hard drive with manufacturer
installed
windows me as the os. i recently put in a second hard drive as
the
slave...i want to put windows xp home on it. i purchased the windows
xp
home upgrade version, as i still have the windows me reinstall
disc
that
Dell provided when i purchased the pc back in 2000. can someone please
advise (step by step - i'm no novice by any means, but no expert,
either)
as
to how i do this? i have already tried it via the windows startup
floppy
followed with the me reinstall disc (that's as far as i got - didn't
even
get to the step of putting xp upgrade "over" the me) - i only
succeeded
in
having a 'safe' desktop come up at bootup with no access to my primary
'C'
drive. i had to employ my full backup of my 'C'drive to re-enable my
to
access my the drive (luckily for me i had a full backup, including os
on
three dvd-rw's). so... can anyone tell me how to do this correctly?
thanks, so much!!
dell dimension 4100
1 gig processor
512 ram
80 gig hard drive 'C'
80 gig hard drive 'D' (the new one)
i do have partition magic 8.0 which i have not utilized yet...

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Yes. However, if you think the ME installation is failing, you might want
to address that now because it is the boot track on the C: drive that will
have the dual boot information needed by the system. The loss of the XP
drive would mean loss of access to XP, but the loss of the ME drive would
mean loss of both ME and XP, boot magic or not.


--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]

thanks, man...
ok, so i can follow your last suggestion to go about using the upgrade
version to get xp on my second (d) drive...now if i do that first, and
then
afterwards want to replace my c drive with a new one (i think it's about
to
die because i'm hearing all sorts of troublesome sounds from it lately),
i'll be able to use my backup (complete backup, including os and files)
that's on the three dvd-rw's to reinstall the old c drive's contents on
the
new c drive - right?? please say yes!
by the way, i do have partition magic which includes boot magic for
choosing
which os to open up at bootup. thanks, again!

No. You would have to remove the present C: drive first and use the new
drive as the only drive in the box. Then you should be able to run the
reinstall cd. But you still have a problem even if the XP upgrade works,
because when you move the drives around again you will not be able to
boot
XP.

A multiboot system is created by having the XP installer detect that another
copy of Windows is installed and setting up software to protect the two
systems from each other and by setting up a boot options screen. This does
not happen by simply putting XP on the second hard drive and hooking it up.
It is done during the XP installation process.

If you got the XP Upgrade at a retail store and the box is still sealed,
return it and pay the difference for the full version.

Alternatively, and this is my favorite solution, find a friend with a retail
cd for an earlier version of Windows and just use that while installing
XP
on the new hard drive. Or, go to eBay and buy one. You do not have to
install the earlier version, just have the cd on hand for the 30 seconds it
takes for the Upgrade installer to find the setup files and verify that
it
is a qualifying product.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]

thanks for the quick response...
just for clarification - i have the oem version of windows me on my c
drive.
what is the process i'd use to put windows me on my second hard drive (d)?
can i use the windows me reinstall disc provided by dell? i did try that
initially, but during the process, i got error boxes telling me that
dll
files 'msvcp71.dll' and 'vsutil.dll' did not load (i subsequently
copied
those files from my c drive windows/system file into the d drive
windows/system file that was created during the reinstall). after the
windows me reinstall attempt to d drive was done, a desktop opened in
'safe'
mode where everything was frozen. it was then that i executed the full c
drive backup from my three dvd-rw's so i could again access my c drive.
so, why, if i can use the (dell provided) windows me reinstall disc to put
me on my d drive, can i not use the xp upgrade to lay over it? why is it
not a 'recognized' version?? thanks again for the assistance!

The Dell reinstall cd is not a qualifying copy of Windows that you can
use
during the installation of XP on the new drive. You need XP Home
full.

You can use the XP Home upgrade cd to upgrade the installed ME on
drive
C:,
but you have no way to use the upgrade cd to do a clean install of
Home
on
the second drive. An XP Home upgrade cd is capable of doing a clean
install, but the installer will request proof that you own a
qualifying
product. OEM and reinstall cd's are not qualifying copies of Windows.

To install XP on the new drive in your situation you need either XP Home
full, or have access to a retail cd from a previous version of
Windows,
such
as Win98 or ME that the XP Home upgrade installer will accept as
qualifying.
You purchased the wrong version of XP Home.



--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
hello all - this is my first post to this group...
i currently have a primary master hard drive with manufacturer
installed
windows me as the os. i recently put in a second hard drive as the
slave...i want to put windows xp home on it. i purchased the
windows
xp
home upgrade version, as i still have the windows me reinstall disc
that
Dell provided when i purchased the pc back in 2000. can someone please
advise (step by step - i'm no novice by any means, but no expert,
either)
as
to how i do this? i have already tried it via the windows startup
floppy
followed with the me reinstall disc (that's as far as i got - didn't
even
get to the step of putting xp upgrade "over" the me) - i only
succeeded
in
having a 'safe' desktop come up at bootup with no access to my primary
'C'
drive. i had to employ my full backup of my 'C'drive to re-enable
my
to
access my the drive (luckily for me i had a full backup, including
os
on
three dvd-rw's). so... can anyone tell me how to do this correctly?
thanks, so much!!
dell dimension 4100
1 gig processor
512 ram
80 gig hard drive 'C'
80 gig hard drive 'D' (the new one)
i do have partition magic 8.0 which i have not utilized yet...

 

[tobegone]

thanks again for the great advice.

Yes. However, if you think the ME installation is failing, you might want
to address that now because it is the boot track on the C: drive that will
have the dual boot information needed by the system. The loss of the XP
drive would mean loss of access to XP, but the loss of the ME drive would
mean loss of both ME and XP, boot magic or not.


--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]

thanks, man...
ok, so i can follow your last suggestion to go about using the upgrade
version to get xp on my second (d) drive...now if i do that first, and
then
afterwards want to replace my c drive with a new one (i think it's about
to
die because i'm hearing all sorts of troublesome sounds from it lately),
i'll be able to use my backup (complete backup, including os and files)
that's on the three dvd-rw's to reinstall the old c drive's contents on
the
new c drive - right?? please say yes!
by the way, i do have partition magic which includes boot magic for
choosing
which os to open up at bootup. thanks, again!

No. You would have to remove the present C: drive first and use the new
drive as the only drive in the box. Then you should be able to run the
reinstall cd. But you still have a problem even if the XP upgrade works,
because when you move the drives around again you will not be able to
boot
XP.

A multiboot system is created by having the XP installer detect that another
copy of Windows is installed and setting up software to protect the two
systems from each other and by setting up a boot options screen. This does
not happen by simply putting XP on the second hard drive and hooking it up.
It is done during the XP installation process.

If you got the XP Upgrade at a retail store and the box is still sealed,
return it and pay the difference for the full version.

Alternatively, and this is my favorite solution, find a friend with a retail
cd for an earlier version of Windows and just use that while installing
XP
on the new hard drive. Or, go to eBay and buy one. You do not have to
install the earlier version, just have the cd on hand for the 30

seconds
it

takes for the Upgrade installer to find the setup files and verify that
it
is a qualifying product.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
thanks for the quick response...
just for clarification - i have the oem version of windows me on my c
drive.
what is the process i'd use to put windows me on my second hard drive (d)?
can i use the windows me reinstall disc provided by dell? i did try that
initially, but during the process, i got error boxes telling me that
dll
files 'msvcp71.dll' and 'vsutil.dll' did not load (i subsequently
copied
those files from my c drive windows/system file into the d drive
windows/system file that was created during the reinstall). after the
windows me reinstall attempt to d drive was done, a desktop opened in
'safe'
mode where everything was frozen. it was then that i executed the

full
c

drive backup from my three dvd-rw's so i could again access my c drive.
so, why, if i can use the (dell provided) windows me reinstall disc

to
put

me on my d drive, can i not use the xp upgrade to lay over it? why

is
it

not a 'recognized' version?? thanks again for the assistance!

The Dell reinstall cd is not a qualifying copy of Windows that you can
use
during the installation of XP on the new drive. You need XP Home
full.

You can use the XP Home upgrade cd to upgrade the installed ME on
drive
C:,
but you have no way to use the upgrade cd to do a clean install of
Home
on
the second drive. An XP Home upgrade cd is capable of doing a clean
install, but the installer will request proof that you own a
qualifying
product. OEM and reinstall cd's are not qualifying copies of Windows.

To install XP on the new drive in your situation you need either XP Home
full, or have access to a retail cd from a previous version of
Windows,
such
as Win98 or ME that the XP Home upgrade installer will accept as
qualifying.
You purchased the wrong version of XP Home.



--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
hello all - this is my first post to this group...
i currently have a primary master hard drive with manufacturer
installed
windows me as the os. i recently put in a second hard drive as the
slave...i want to put windows xp home on it. i purchased the
windows
xp
home upgrade version, as i still have the windows me reinstall disc
that
Dell provided when i purchased the pc back in 2000. can someone please
advise (step by step - i'm no novice by any means, but no expert,
either)
as
to how i do this? i have already tried it via the windows startup
floppy
followed with the me reinstall disc (that's as far as i got - didn't
even
get to the step of putting xp upgrade "over" the me) - i only
succeeded
in
having a 'safe' desktop come up at bootup with no access to my primary
'C'
drive. i had to employ my full backup of my 'C'drive to re-enable
my
to
access my the drive (luckily for me i had a full backup, including
os
on
three dvd-rw's). so... can anyone tell me how to do this correctly?
thanks, so much!!
dell dimension 4100
1 gig processor
512 ram
80 gig hard drive 'C'
80 gig hard drive 'D' (the new one)
i do have partition magic 8.0 which i have not utilized yet...

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

yw

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

thanks again for the great advice.

Yes. However, if you think the ME installation is failing, you might
want
to address that now because it is the boot track on the C: drive that
will
have the dual boot information needed by the system. The loss of the XP
drive would mean loss of access to XP, but the loss of the ME drive would
mean loss of both ME and XP, boot magic or not.


--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]

thanks, man...
ok, so i can follow your last suggestion to go about using the upgrade
version to get xp on my second (d) drive...now if i do that first, and
then
afterwards want to replace my c drive with a new one (i think it's
about
to
die because i'm hearing all sorts of troublesome sounds from it
lately),
i'll be able to use my backup (complete backup, including os and files)
that's on the three dvd-rw's to reinstall the old c drive's contents on
the
new c drive - right?? please say yes!
by the way, i do have partition magic which includes boot magic for
choosing
which os to open up at bootup. thanks, again!

No. You would have to remove the present C: drive first and use the new
drive as the only drive in the box. Then you should be able to run
the
reinstall cd. But you still have a problem even if the XP upgrade works,
because when you move the drives around again you will not be able to
boot
XP.

A multiboot system is created by having the XP installer detect that
another
copy of Windows is installed and setting up software to protect the
two
systems from each other and by setting up a boot options screen. This
does
not happen by simply putting XP on the second hard drive and hooking
it
up.
It is done during the XP installation process.

If you got the XP Upgrade at a retail store and the box is still sealed,
return it and pay the difference for the full version.

Alternatively, and this is my favorite solution, find a friend with a
retail
cd for an earlier version of Windows and just use that while
installing
XP
on the new hard drive. Or, go to eBay and buy one. You do not have
to
install the earlier version, just have the cd on hand for the 30 seconds
it
takes for the Upgrade installer to find the setup files and verify
that
it
is a qualifying product.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
thanks for the quick response...
just for clarification - i have the oem version of windows me on my
c
drive.
what is the process i'd use to put windows me on my second hard
drive
(d)?
can i use the windows me reinstall disc provided by dell? i did try
that
initially, but during the process, i got error boxes telling me that
dll
files 'msvcp71.dll' and 'vsutil.dll' did not load (i subsequently
copied
those files from my c drive windows/system file into the d drive
windows/system file that was created during the reinstall). after the
windows me reinstall attempt to d drive was done, a desktop opened
in
'safe'
mode where everything was frozen. it was then that i executed the full
c
drive backup from my three dvd-rw's so i could again access my c drive.
so, why, if i can use the (dell provided) windows me reinstall disc to
put
me on my d drive, can i not use the xp upgrade to lay over it? why is
it
not a 'recognized' version?? thanks again for the assistance!

The Dell reinstall cd is not a qualifying copy of Windows that you can
use
during the installation of XP on the new drive. You need XP Home
full.

You can use the XP Home upgrade cd to upgrade the installed ME on
drive
C:,
but you have no way to use the upgrade cd to do a clean install of
Home
on
the second drive. An XP Home upgrade cd is capable of doing a
clean
install, but the installer will request proof that you own a
qualifying
product. OEM and reinstall cd's are not qualifying copies of Windows.

To install XP on the new drive in your situation you need either XP
Home
full, or have access to a retail cd from a previous version of
Windows,
such
as Win98 or ME that the XP Home upgrade installer will accept as
qualifying.
You purchased the wrong version of XP Home.



--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
hello all - this is my first post to this group...
i currently have a primary master hard drive with manufacturer
installed
windows me as the os. i recently put in a second hard drive as the
slave...i want to put windows xp home on it. i purchased the
windows
xp
home upgrade version, as i still have the windows me reinstall disc
that
Dell provided when i purchased the pc back in 2000. can someone
please
advise (step by step - i'm no novice by any means, but no expert,
either)
as
to how i do this? i have already tried it via the windows
startup
floppy
followed with the me reinstall disc (that's as far as i got - didn't
even
get to the step of putting xp upgrade "over" the me) - i only
succeeded
in
having a 'safe' desktop come up at bootup with no access to my
primary
'C'
drive. i had to employ my full backup of my 'C'drive to
re-enable
my
to
access my the drive (luckily for me i had a full backup,
including
os
on
three dvd-rw's). so... can anyone tell me how to do this correctly?
thanks, so much!!
dell dimension 4100
1 gig processor
512 ram
80 gig hard drive 'C'
80 gig hard drive 'D' (the new one)
i do have partition magic 8.0 which i have not utilized yet...