Windows XP OEM

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SuSE_Linux_Guy

Please excuse me if This is in the wrong forum, or if this is a stupid
question, but I am having a tough time finding information on the
Internet about this.

Windows XP Professional OEM, If I were to buy this for my Laptop and I
need to reformat after the initial installation, is this possible with
the OEM version?

Second Question, if I have Windows XP Home pre-installed in my computer
already, and I am needing the Professional version (for programming
reasons), can I buy OEM version or do I have to buy one of the more
expensive versions? (please take into consideration of the first
question when answering the second question.)

Once in a great while, I sometimes reformat my hard drive for a clean
installation. That is why I am asking question one.
 
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Kerry Brown

SuSE_Linux_Guy said:
Please excuse me if This is in the wrong forum, or if this is a stupid
question, but I am having a tough time finding information on the Internet
about this.

Windows XP Professional OEM, If I were to buy this for my Laptop and I
need to reformat after the initial installation, is this possible with
the OEM version?
Yes


Second Question, if I have Windows XP Home pre-installed in my computer
already, and I am needing the Professional version (for programming
reasons), can I buy OEM version or do I have to buy one of the more
expensive versions? (please take into consideration of the first question
when answering the second question.)

Yes. The restriction with OEM product is that it is forever tied to the
first computer it is installed on. Once you install OEM XP Pro on that
computer it can't be installed on another computer (according to the EULA).
 
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SuSE_Linux_Guy

Thank you Kerry Brown. That has helped a lot.

Kerry said:
Yes. The restriction with OEM product is that it is forever tied to the
first computer it is installed on. Once you install OEM XP Pro on that
computer it can't be installed on another computer (according to the EULA).
 
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SuSE_Linux_Guy

Thank you Kerry Brown. That has helped a lot.

Kerry said:
Yes. The restriction with OEM product is that it is forever tied to the
first computer it is installed on. Once you install OEM XP Pro on that
computer it can't be installed on another computer (according to the EULA).
 
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SuSE_Linux_Guy

Thank you Kerry Brown. That has helped a lot.

Kerry said:
Yes. The restriction with OEM product is that it is forever tied to the
first computer it is installed on. Once you install OEM XP Pro on that
computer it can't be installed on another computer (according to the EULA).
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

SuSE_Linux_Guy said:
Please excuse me if This is in the wrong forum, or if this is a stupid
question, but I am having a tough time finding information on the
Internet about this.

Windows XP Professional OEM, If I were to buy this for my Laptop and
I need to reformat after the initial installation, is this possible
with the OEM version?


Yes. There is no restriction as to how many times you can reinstall it on
the same computer.

The only such restriction is that an OEM version's license ties it
permanently to the first computer it is installed. It can never be moved to
another computer.

The OEM version also comes with two other disadvantages--1. It can only do a
clean installation, not an upgrade and 2. Microsoft provides no support for
OEM versions. You can't call them with a problem, but instead have to get
any needed support from your OEM; that support may range anywhere between
good and non-existent. Or you can get support elsewhere, such as in these
newsgroups.

Of these restrictions, I think the permanent tying to a particular computer
is the most significant, and that's why I recommend that you do *not* buy an
OEM version, but buy a retail Upgrade version (which usually costs only
slightly more than an OEM version) instead. And contrary to what many people
think, an Upgrade version *can* do a clean installation; all that's required
is a CD of a previous qualifying version to insert a sproof of ownership
when prompted to do so. And if you have no previous qualifying version, a
used copy of Windows 98 is usually very inexpensive at places like eBay.

Second Question, if I have Windows XP Home pre-installed in my
computer already, and I am needing the Professional version (for
programming reasons),


What does "for programming reasons" mean? XP Professional and XP Home are
exactly the same in all respects, except that Professional has a few
features (mostly related to networking and security) missing from Home. For
most (but not all) home users, even those with a home network, these
features aren't needed, would never be used, and buying Professional instead
of Home is a waste of money.

For details go to
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_home_pro.asp

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/whichxp.asp

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/choosing2.asp

Also note one other point not mentioned on any of those sites: Professional
allows ten concurrent network connections, and Home only five.

can I buy OEM version or do I have to buy one
of the more expensive versions?



You can buy any version you want. What came preinstalled is irrelevant.
Again I recommend the Retail Upgrade version because it comes without the
OEM version restrictions and is only very slightly more expensive.

(please take into consideration of
the first question when answering the second question.)

Once in a great while, I sometimes reformat my hard drive for a clean
installation.


Why? It is hardly ever necessary and is almost always a mistake. It should
be a last resort in pronblem-solving, not something that should be done once
in a while, not even once in a great while,
 
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Bruce Chambers

SuSE_Linux_Guy said:
Please excuse me if This is in the wrong forum, or if this is a stupid
question, but I am having a tough time finding information on the
Internet about this.

Windows XP Professional OEM, If I were to buy this for my Laptop and I
need to reformat after the initial installation, is this possible with
the OEM version?


Certainly. I'm not sure why you'd think otherwise; can a SUSE Linux
installation CD be used only once?

There's no limit to the number of times you can reinstall and activate
the same WinXP license on the same PC. Nor is there ever a charge. Nor
does a Product Key (so long as it's not an evaluation license) ever
expire. If it's been more than 120 days since you last activated that
specific Product Key, you'll most likely be able to activate via the
Internet without problem. If it's been less, you might have to make a 5
minute phone call.

Here are the facts pertaining to activation:

Piracy Basics - Microsoft Product Activation
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/

Windows Product Activation (WPA)
http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm

Second Question, if I have Windows XP Home pre-installed in my computer
already, and I am needing the Professional version (for programming
reasons), can I buy OEM version or do I have to buy one of the more
expensive versions? (please take into consideration of the first
question when answering the second question.)


You could use the OEM WinXP Pro, but not to perform an in-place
upgrade; OEM CDs are specifically designed to perform clean
installations only. If you have applications that you do not wish to
have to reinstall, the WinXP Upgrade license would be a better choice.

There are some very important reasons that an OEM license costs so
much less than a retail license. OEM licenses are very limited:

1) OEM versions must be sold with a piece of non-peripheral
hardware (normally a motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC,
although Microsoft has greatly relaxed the hardware criteria for WinXP)
and are _permanently_ bound to the first PC on which they are installed.
An OEM license, once installed, is not legally transferable to another
computer under any circumstances. This is the main reason some people
avoid OEM versions; if the PC dies or is otherwise disposed of (even
stolen), you cannot re-use your OEM license on a new PC. The only
legitimate way to transfer the ownership of an OEM license is to
transfer ownership of the entire PC.

2) Microsoft provides no free support for OEM versions. If you
have any problems that require outside assistance, your only recourse is
to contact the manufacturer/builder of the PC or the vendor of the OEM
license. This would include such issues as lost a Product Key or
replacing damaged installation media. (Microsoft does make allowances
for those instances when you can prove that the OEM has gone out of
business.) This doesn't mean that you can't download patches and
service packs from Microsoft -- just no free telephone or email support
for problems with the OS.

3) An OEM CD cannot be used to perform an upgrade of an earlier
OS, as it was designed to be installed _only_ upon an empty hard drive.
It can still be used to perform a repair installation (a.k.a. an
in-place upgrade) of an existing WinXP installation.

4) If the OEM CD was designed by a specific manufacturer, such as
eMachines, Sony, Dell, Gateway, etc., it will most likely only install
on the same brand of PC, as an additional anti-piracy feature. Further,
such CDs are severely customized to contain only the minimum of device
drivers, and a lot of extra nonsense, that the manufacturer feels
necessary for the specific model of PC for which the CD was designed. To
be honest, such CDs should _not_ be available on the open market; but,
if you're shopping someplace on-line like eBay, swap meets, or computer
fairs, there's often no telling what you're buying until it's too late.
The "generic" OEM CDs, such as are manufactured by Microsoft and sold
to small systems builders, don't have this particular problem, though,
and are pretty much the same as their retail counterparts, apart from
the licensing, support, and upgrading restrictions.
Once in a great while, I sometimes reformat my hard drive for a clean
installation. That is why I am asking question one.


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Guest

U do not need to format your H-disk, Win XP cd is mostly bootable, and while
installing it, there will be option to delete, create or format the drive (
NTFS or FAT). Make sure PC CDROM is bootable (if you PC is 3 year old then it
has bootable CDROM). It will be easy than you thinking ( Unix/Linux). Any
question shoot an email to me.
 
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SuSE_Linux_Guy

Basically, I am needing Professional for web development that is needing
the IIS/Personal Web Server. While trying to do a connection to an
Access db, I realized my home version would not allow debugging without
the missing IIS software. Realizing this, I found out Professional is
needed and I am looking for the cheepest way to buy it (with possible
clean installation). Thank you for posting the referenced pages that
informs me better.
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

SuSE_Linux_Guy said:
Basically, I am needing Professional for web development that is
needing the IIS/Personal Web Server. While trying to do a connection
to an Access db, I realized my home version would not allow debugging
without the missing IIS software. Realizing this, I found out
Professional is needed and I am looking for the cheepest way to buy
it (with possible clean installation). Thank you for posting the
referenced pages that informs me better.


You're welcome, and yes, if you need IIS, you need Professional instead of
Home.

However, you might want to look at Apache Server, which can run on XP Home,
and see if that might meet your needs as well as IIS.
 

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