Windows XP Issue (Activation) III

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daygo140

Leythos said:
I don't go to church and I don't need or want MVP status. You failed to
answer the question so you tried to divert the thread- answer the question
if you have any real honor (but most pirates don't).

It still stands - answer the question - All 5 are below:

_______________________________________________________________

daygo140's response to the above:


You genuinely cleared it all up for me now. There was only speculation, but
it IS true. You are a moron. You just pound away on your keyboard and
don't think. Maybe you do not have the brain power.

There is not ONE question you asked, there all statements. You must of
missed that class about learning the fundamentals of English back in first
grade. I'll give you a tip, questions ususally have THESE ?????. If they
were questionS you should of made question; questions. I guess if you can't
beat the knit pickers you may as well join them.

So what. I have two licenses. A PK/authentication key is just a tool to
enforce EULA. The EULA says you need one license for each PC running an MS
OS. I'm good. Besides I don't give a f*ck at this point.

I have to take all things into consideration when fixing a customer's PC
(especially my MOM's), I had to use this method of fixing it because of time
restraints (MS or you for that matter wouldn't of been the ones losing
money, my MOM would be). MS and this problem (which you have no idea about)
shouldn't manipulate what method I use to fix any computer. The needs of
the customers come first, obviously something you nor MS don't know about.
I did NOTHING unethical. ---I'd be wrong to point the finger at MS, If my
PC or my Mom's PC stay working then I TAKE THAT BACK.

Besides they really weren't CLEAR means to fix the computer, that was just
another one of your many speculations.

I guess I'll have to deal with it when something happens. Oh well, I don't
give a sh*t at this point. Tell me something that I give a shit about. My
original questions have been answered. I'm satisfied (WHY THE HELL AREN'T
U?) even if they are wrong or right.

Again tell me something that I give a shit about. My original questions
have been answered. I'm satisfied (WHY THE HELL AREN'T U?) even if they are
wrong or right.

I hope MS don't have that attitude. Remember we (well you are a suck ass)
are their customers. IT DOES MAKE DIFFERENCE, we are the ones to decide
whether or not we will purchase MS's products. MS can choose to ignore it
now, but some day things may change, and some younger "Bill Gates" with
another breakthru OS will be born. If MS decides to deactivate me and my
Mom, I'll remember this, even if I'm 80 years old.
 
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Leythos

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:37:41 -0500, daygo140 wrote:
[snip copy of another post needlessly reposted]

And the point in changing the subject while not adding any content was
what?

It seems to me you like trolling this group - posting BS that you never
intend to really discuss, only fight or flame with you.
 
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daygo140

Hey Megastar MVP,

I'm using MS OE as my reader and for some reason, the newsreader isn't
downloading all the posts.

I didn't see the OP in "Windows XP Issue (Activation) II, nor do I see the
post "Windows XP Issue (Activation) III" just this reply to it.

Why don't you earn your MVP and tell me how to fix this, All-Star
Technician?


Tone
 
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Leythos

I didn't see the OP in "Windows XP Issue (Activation) II, nor do I see the
post "Windows XP Issue (Activation) III" just this reply to it.

Why don't you earn your MVP and tell me how to fix this, All-Star
Technician?

Sure, there are two paths, one I like better than others:

1) My idea - install a real Usenet client, something other than a hacked
email client that works with Usenet mostly. Try PAN, Gravity, Thunderbird,
etc...

2) Install all of the OE updates and patches - this fixes most of them.
 
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kurttrail

daygo140 said:
Hey Megastar MVP,

I'm using MS OE as my reader and for some reason, the newsreader isn't
downloading all the posts.

I didn't see the OP in "Windows XP Issue (Activation) II, nor do I
see the post "Windows XP Issue (Activation) III" just this reply to
it.
Why don't you earn your MVP and tell me how to fix this, All-Star
Technician?


Tone

It seems that you original post in this thread, "Windows XP Issue
(Activation) III" was pulled off MS's server.

Welcome to the club of being censored by Microsoft!

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Leythos

It seems that you original post in this thread, "Windows XP Issue
(Activation) III" was pulled off MS's server.

Welcome to the club of being censored by Microsoft!

Did you get a copy of the cancel message? Did you see a post about it
being "Pulled" off the server?

Is it possible that it just expired?
 
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kurttrail

Leythos said:
Did you get a copy of the cancel message? Did you see a post about it
being "Pulled" off the server?

I didn't see the original post, only your reply to it.
Is it possible that it just expired?

Not unless a month went by without me knowing about it. I've had many
of my posts censored by MS in the past, so I know the difference.

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Steve N.

kurttrail said:
I didn't see the original post, only your reply to it.




Not unless a month went by without me knowing about it. I've had many
of my posts censored by MS in the past, so I know the difference.

A Google groups search will reveal it.

It was probably yanked for language, as he slipped up a couple of times
with the "s" word.

Steve
 
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Leythos

I've had many
of my posts censored by MS in the past, so I know the difference.

Based on what I've seen posted by you I can understand it too. I myself
came very close to plonking you so that I didn't have to read any more of
your sanctimonious BS, I still may.
 
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kurttrail

Steve said:
A Google groups search will reveal it.

It was probably yanked for language, as he slipped up a couple of
times with the "s" word.

Steve

Thanks Steve.

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kurttrail

Leythos said:
Based on what I've seen posted by you I can understand it too. I
myself came very close to plonking you so that I didn't have to read
any more of your sanctimonious BS, I still may.

Please, be my guest. Be the monkey with his hands covering his eyes.

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Leythos

Be the monkey with his hands covering his eyes.

Let me see if I understand you Kurt, please follow through this example
and tell me where I'm wrong:

As a developer of programs for distribution to the masses, for minimal
cost to them, I design an application that performs "XYZZY" service. This
application is provided with a license restriction that clearly states
that it can only be installed on one machine per purchased license, and
that you do not OWN the software, you are only purchasing the right to USE
it.

Now, I have my team working on it for 6 months, we beta it, get it working
fine, and have it for sale on our company website - let say we sell the
"Licenses" for $5.00 each.

Now, we've invested about $450,000 into development and costs, our
business plan is to recover that in 12 months (lofty goal) and to start
making a profit in the next years......

Now, you, as a purchaser of the license, come along and download after
paying the $5, you like the product XYZZY so much you decided to GIVE it
to as many people as you can, and they do the same, soon there are few
people purchasing it, less than 20% of users are purchasing it (I made
that up to get this moving faster).

After several months we've not started to recover our expenses quickly
enough and the bank wants its money - we fold the company due to so many
unpaid installations of our product.

Now, as one last effort, since the software was also provided with online
updates, we push out an update that has the program erase itself from all
users machines - we offer a full refund to anyone that can prove they
purchased it.

So, how does the taking of a product against the distribution model and
licensing restrictions help any company?

How did your failing to support a company (by giving it to unauthorized
users with your install key) help the company?

Do you see any difference (with the exception of the uninstall tactic)
between this little company and MS?
 
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kurttrail

Steve said:
You're welcome Kurt. Good to see you're active again lately. Where ya
been?
Steve

I took a break from text-based USENET a couple of weeks after Bush won
the election. MS got me off my ass by announcing that they are gonna
make Validation mandatory, fullfilling my prophesy that MS wouldn't stop
adding hoops for its paying customers to jump through after implementing
PA, so you can blame them for my second-coming! ;-)

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kurttrail

Leythos said:
Let me see if I understand you Kurt, please follow through this
example and tell me where I'm wrong:

As a developer of programs for distribution to the masses, for minimal
cost to them, I design an application that performs "XYZZY" service.
This application is provided with a license restriction that clearly
states that it can only be installed on one machine per purchased
license, and that you do not OWN the software, you are only
purchasing the right to USE it.

Now, I have my team working on it for 6 months, we beta it, get it
working fine, and have it for sale on our company website - let say
we sell the "Licenses" for $5.00 each.

Now, we've invested about $450,000 into development and costs, our
business plan is to recover that in 12 months (lofty goal) and to
start making a profit in the next years......

Now, you, as a purchaser of the license, come along and download after
paying the $5, you like the product XYZZY so much you decided to GIVE
it to as many people as you can, and they do the same, soon there are
few people purchasing it, less than 20% of users are purchasing it (I
made that up to get this moving faster).

After several months we've not started to recover our expenses quickly
enough and the bank wants its money - we fold the company due to so
many unpaid installations of our product.

Now, as one last effort, since the software was also provided with
online updates, we push out an update that has the program erase
itself from all users machines - we offer a full refund to anyone
that can prove they purchased it.

So, how does the taking of a product against the distribution model
and licensing restrictions help any company?

How did your failing to support a company (by giving it to
unauthorized users with your install key) help the company?

Do you see any difference (with the exception of the uninstall tactic)
between this little company and MS?

What does this have to do with you being the monkey? That is what you
are replying to.

I didn't bother reading all that. But you company was paid twice for
the software to be used on two computers, what does it really matter
that one copy was used twice to install on those two computers. What
did your company lose?

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Leythos

What does this have to do with you being the monkey? That is what you
are replying to.

Actually, Kurt (and why does everyone named kurt act like you) I didn't
reply to your insults, I've been trying to stay above that type of
childish behavior.
I didn't bother reading all that. But you company was paid twice for
the software to be used on two computers, what does it really matter
that one copy was used twice to install on those two computers. What
did your company lose?

Kurt, you did miss the point - the software was only bought for your
computer, not the computers of ALL people YOU gave it too or all the
people they gave it too - which none of those people paid for it.

So, are you going to say that every software company should just GIVE free
copies to everyone?
 
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kurttrail

Woody said:
i wonder if it'll bring FredRetread out of retirement ,too ;-) hehe

I wish, I really miss that guy.

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kurttrail

Leythos said:
Actually, Kurt (and why does everyone named kurt act like you)

Actually, the name on my birth certificate is Kurtis.
I
didn't reply to your insults, I've been trying to stay above that
type of childish behavior.

Well that was all I said in my reply to you, so I'm at a loss to figure
out why you came up writing what you did.
Kurt, you did miss the point - the software was only bought for your
computer, not the computers of ALL people YOU gave it too or all the
people they gave it too - which none of those people paid for it.

Well, I was still talking about daygo and his mom and their situation,
that she did paid for the use of XP on her computer.
So, are you going to say that every software company should just GIVE
free copies to everyone?

I never advocated distributing software to people that didn't pay for
its use. That is copyright infringement, and one doesn't need a EULA to
state it.

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Leythos

I never advocated distributing software to people that didn't pay for
its use. That is copyright infringement, and one doesn't need a EULA to
state it.

The version of Windows XP that is on daygo's Mom's computer is not what
she paid for - so, which way do you want it - advocating that it's right
to install an unlicensed copy of someone else's XP or that it's not right?
 

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