Windows XP for an HP Pavillion 8665c

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ajmccas

Does any one know if it is possible to update the above mentioned
computer to Windows XP Pro? Am trying to fix this up to give to a
friend. Originally came with 98. I did a complete wipe and then
loaded all the software back on. However, I've heard that the drivers
are not compatible with XP. Also, I'm getting the following error at
every startup:

"Resource Conflict-PCI in Slot 02, BUS: 01, Device: 09, Function: 01"

Any clue what that's all about?? Any help/advice would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks....

Alyssa
 
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Malke

ajmccas said:
Does any one know if it is possible to update the above mentioned
computer to Windows XP Pro? Am trying to fix this up to give to a
friend. Originally came with 98. I did a complete wipe and then
loaded all the software back on. However, I've heard that the drivers
are not compatible with XP. Also, I'm getting the following error at
every startup:

"Resource Conflict-PCI in Slot 02, BUS: 01, Device: 09, Function: 01"

Any clue what that's all about?? Any help/advice would be greatly
appreciated.

It is unlikely that the Win98 box will support XP, but the way to find
out is to go to HP's tech support site for that particular model HP and
see if there are drivers available for XP. If there aren't, then put 98
back on the machine.

Malke
 
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ajmccas

Thanks for your response. Any idea why they didn't make XP compatible
with 98??? What a waste.
 
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Bob I

Because Windows XP is an extension of the Windows NT line and the
Windows 9x lineage was killed off after Windows ME.
 
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Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User

It is not a question of making XP compatible with Win 98.. XP is/was a move
to the future, not a sideways or backward step..

Hardware manufacturers elected not to write device drivers for some of their
older stuff..

Because XP is way more accomplished, it requires more resources of a higher
specification and standard..

Windows XP is a cousin to Windows 98.. the architecture is quite different..

Your HP machine does have XP drivers available to it..

See here..
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...&docname=bph06784&product=59910&lang=en&cc=ca
 
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ajmccas

Yeah, I knew that 98 and XP were related. I just couldn't understand
why I couldn't find drivers for it. I mean it's not the newest piece
of equipment in the world....but I wanted to be able to get this fixed
up for a friend to use who doesn't have the $$$$ to go out and by a
computer....or maybe is just too stingy.

Thanks for the link for the drivers.
 
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Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User

AJM

One can assume that XP will in fact recognise all of the devices in the
machine without the need to download additional drivers..

The specifications as shipped originally are not particularly impressive
when compared to newer machines and, as a result, XP performance would be
low. While the minimum specs on the XP box are not high, it must be born in
mind that one would not be expected or able to achieve a great deal at that
level. A PIII 600 is acceptable, but would need way more RAM than the
standard 128mb to give anything close to good performance. You should be
looking to install 512mb, and even then turn off all XP eye candy (not a bad
thing to do anyway as it is all counter productive).

Presumably, if you upgrade the OS but do not upgrade the memory, you will at
least pass on what I have said to the recipient.
 
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Malke

ajmccas said:
Well, there's only one problem with your link. I've actually looked
here before and this is always what I get:

(snip)

Then don't do it from a link. Go to HP's website yourself. It would be
smart to run the XP Update Advisor before installing (unless it's too
late). Make sure the box has at least 256MB of RAM and a fairly
good-sized hard drive. With 256MB of RAM the box will be slow, so if
you can add more do so. I wouldn't install XP on anything less than
10GB and that would really be pushing it. 20GB would be a real-world
minimum.

Malke
 
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ajmccas

Mike

I believe there is some additional RAM added to the machine. Maybe
even 128 mb. What do you mean by removing eye candy?? I can only
assume that you are speaking of some extras that might lighten the load
a little. Could you be a little more specific. Basically the only
thing this machine will be used for is dialup internet access and
selling on ebay. He doesn't have any plans to do anything major on it.


I'm guessing when I put XP back on there I should do a custom
update/install. What things would you suggest that I omit??
 
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ajmccas

I'm sorry, I should have stated that I have gone to HP's website before
and have gotten the same information and not from a link. I think
that I've run XP on this machine before, mind you it was slow.
 
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Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User

Set the visual appearance for best performance.. XP's eye candy is a killer
unless you have substantial resources..
 
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Bruce Chambers

ajmccas said:
Thanks for your response. Any idea why they didn't make XP compatible
with 98??? What a waste.

It has nothing to do with making "... XP compatible with 98." In fact,
that statement actually makes no sense. WinXP is perfectly capable of
upgrading a computer with Win98 pre-installed, provided that the
computer's components can support WinXP.

The problem stems from HP's long-standing practice of using inferior
quality (i.e., just barely enough good for the installed OS, with no
allowance for future upgrades) components in the consumer-grade
computers. PCs designed for, sold and run fine with Win9x/Me very often
do not meet WinXP's much more stringent hardware quality requirements.
This is particularly true of many models in Compaq's consumer-class
Presario product line or HP's consumer-class Pavilion product line.
WinXP, like WinNT and Win2K before it, is quite sensitive to borderline
defective or substandard hardware (particularly motherboards, RAM and
hard drives) that will still support Win9x.


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ajmccas

Sorry, I wasn't quite with it yesterday. It just would have been nice
to have seen updated drivers that worked better with XP for this
machine. That's what I was getting at. I didn't voice that well.
 
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Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User

That being the case, contact HP and ask why they didn't supply better
drivers..
 
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ajmccas

Ok. Back to the Error. I took the video card out of slot 2 and put it
in slot 1. I then reinstalled the drivers for the video card Rockwell
Riptide PCI. ( Aparently this is some kind of combo video/game
controller card.) I restarted and got the same error except for slot
1. I looked in the device manager which told me that the problem is
with the Rockwell riptide PCI Game Controller. The driver on the
recovery disk is from 9/23/99. I'm trying to search for an updated
driver. But haven't had much luck. Should I just give up and hit F2
to bypass the error every time the machine boots up?? Or does this
mean the video card is shot??
 

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