Windows Updates ATI 9800 Pro HEADS UP!

J

johns

FU Microsoft !!! Seriously, this is the stupidest one yet.
If you have automatic updates set, Windows is down
loading for your ATI 9800 Pro, an old Catalyst 4.9
Beta driver, and autoinstalling it right over your present
driver .. it will bluescreen your system, and you might
not even know you got it. I've been cleaning this poop
off computers in my labs all day, with more to go. I
called MS, and got a furriner, naturally, who asked me
the same question about 50 times, and then wanted me
to go into safe mode to delete my video card. What a
total moron. Not a clue. My lab systems got the
stupid thing over and over .. one of them about 8 times.
My home system got it twice and bluescreened on
my wife. She's not home yet, and I expect she is just
a little ticked. I'm back up on a fresh install of Cat 5.1
from ATI site, and I've got autoupdates disabled.
Microsoft says they are not going to remove the 4.9
beta from their update site, so it is up to the individual
to beware of the stupidity. Go to control panel. Click
on AutoUpdate, and set it to the 2nd choice .. not
download. Just prompt. From now on, go to the
Windows Update site and manually select only the
high security updates. Screw this stupid nonsense.

johns
 
S

Sleepy

johns said:
FU Microsoft !!! Seriously, this is the stupidest one yet.
If you have automatic updates set, Windows is down
loading for your ATI 9800 Pro, an old Catalyst 4.9
Beta driver, and autoinstalling it right over your present
driver .. it will bluescreen your system, and you might
not even know you got it. I've been cleaning this poop
off computers in my labs all day, with more to go. I
called MS, and got a furriner, naturally, who asked me
the same question about 50 times, and then wanted me
to go into safe mode to delete my video card. What a
total moron. Not a clue. My lab systems got the
stupid thing over and over .. one of them about 8 times.
My home system got it twice and bluescreened on
my wife. She's not home yet, and I expect she is just
a little ticked. I'm back up on a fresh install of Cat 5.1
from ATI site, and I've got autoupdates disabled.
Microsoft says they are not going to remove the 4.9
beta from their update site, so it is up to the individual
to beware of the stupidity. Go to control panel. Click
on AutoUpdate, and set it to the 2nd choice .. not
download. Just prompt. From now on, go to the
Windows Update site and manually select only the
high security updates. Screw this stupid nonsense.

johns
first thing I turned off when I installed XP Pro was 'Updates'
and the second thing I did was uninstall Messenger. Naturally
I have to remember to manually update about once a week.
 
B

Ben Pope

Sleepy said:
first thing I turned off when I installed XP Pro was 'Updates'
and the second thing I did was uninstall Messenger. Naturally
I have to remember to manually update about once a week.


Mine downloads and informs me, I always check what it's going to install.

And I don't think I'd ever get a driver from them, half the time it's older
than the one from the manufacturers site.

Ben
 
I

It's me

FU Microsoft !!! Seriously, this is the stupidest one yet.
If you have automatic updates set, Windows is down
loading for your ATI 9800 Pro, an old Catalyst 4.9
Beta driver, and autoinstalling it right over your present
driver .. it will bluescreen your system, and you might
not even know you got it. I've been cleaning this poop
off computers in my labs all day, with more to go. I
called MS, and got a furriner, naturally, who asked me
the same question about 50 times, and then wanted me
to go into safe mode to delete my video card. What a
total moron. Not a clue. My lab systems got the
stupid thing over and over .. one of them about 8 times.
My home system got it twice and bluescreened on
my wife. She's not home yet, and I expect she is just
a little ticked. I'm back up on a fresh install of Cat 5.1
from ATI site, and I've got autoupdates disabled.
Microsoft says they are not going to remove the 4.9
beta from their update site, so it is up to the individual
to beware of the stupidity. Go to control panel. Click
on AutoUpdate, and set it to the 2nd choice .. not
download. Just prompt. From now on, go to the
Windows Update site and manually select only the
high security updates. Screw this stupid nonsense.

johns

Never use auto-update myself. The driver is not a beta anyway. MS
would only allow a certified driver on their downloads. I tried that
driver once out of curiosity once and had no issues with it.
 
J

johns

I loaded it once, and it worked fine. Problem is "Updates" pushed it
again and
again over the top of a botched install. I had bluescreens in the labs,
plus it
reset all the needed ATI 9800 settings .. like fastwrites off, agp 4x,
vert override.
It was a total nuisance along with the crashed systems.
 
J

JK

WinXP pro SP2. I have automatic updates turned on and only the critical
security updates are installed without me. I never install drivers and
stuff like that from MS update. They're always way out of date.

JK
 
S

SL

I Rebuilt my secondary machine with an older 9500 pro (i still love her!).
I forgot to eliminate the video driver from the update. It downloaded the
driver. I saw it had trouble with Doom 3 resulting in a total blank screen
with no recorse except for hard reboot. On a newly built system that never
had a problem yet? One that ran perfectly a few hours ago? I noticed
under Properties, it had "Microsoft" listed at the end of the driver. Huh?
I have never seen Microsoft written (it was in quotes actually) in the
actual drivers name. Needless to say, I backed off that driver and went
with the 4.12 driver. All was instantly well. It would, I assume apply to
another primary pc I use with a 9800 pro. That driver is stable and will
most likely not be changed ever. I doubt most updates will make enough
changes to warrant it. It Runs like a hot knife through soft butter so far.

The "only" driver I may use by Microsoft is for one of the many "unknown"
NIC cards I might drop into a machine. They seem to get that right so they
can talk to your pc as soon as possible! :)

sl
 

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