Evert said:
Remarks like the one atioch wrtote are things one can do without.
I thought i was in the windows xp general group and could ask any question
about windows XP. I didn't look to me as if i was making remarks in an
existing thread.
regards, Evert
Hi Evert
I can think of quite a few who would have 'flamed you.
I consider that I pointed out valid errors in your posting, and did this as
politely as possible. If they did not come across to you that way then I
apologise.
You have come into windowsxp.general as you say, but your problem is
connected to 'updates' - a group dealing with all updates in all MS
software - these being mainly security/criticals etc.
You have displayed the rather typical characteristics of the web interface.
In fact I would say you were lucky to find your post to see my reply - all
so often they tend to disappear.
However, since to have posted in another thread, which is two months old, I
would say you are lucky to get any response.
Not wishing to be unhelpful, as nobody has seen your question, I think/hope
the below may be of interest.
Newsreaders for Windows:
http://www.forteinc.com/agent/index.php
http://www.mozilla.org
http://gravity.tbates.org/
http://www.40tude.com/dialog/
http://xnews.newsguy.com/
Outlook Express Newsreader-Setting up
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/community/newsgroups/setup.asp
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/resources/communities.htm#setupmsnews
From Rick Rogers
Stop using the web interface and switch to a newsreader.
http://rickrogers.org/setupoe.htm
Windows XP Newsgroup Setup Instructions for Outlook Express
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroupsetup.mspx
From Ken Blake
As you are using the web interface to read this newsgroup--it's the slowest,
clunkiest, most error-prone method. It may be a good idea to switch to a
newsreader, such as Outlook Express, which is part of with Windows.
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
From Me
There are very good reasons for using the recommended newsgroup quoting
style. It has to do with making it easy for others to understand what you
are talking about when you post a reply to anything by placing your comments
into context.
1) If you do not quote at all in a reply you leave the reader guessing at
what you are replying to.
2) If you quote the entire message but then post your reply above or below
the message you are responding to, and the message happens to be very long
and cover a lot of topics of discussion, again you leave the reader
guessing as to what part of the message your reply was for.
This is why you should put your replies into context.
4) Newsgroup quoting styles have been in use now for well over 20 years,
they are very well understood and accepted quoting practices among those who
participate in newsgroup threaded discussions. Because of that, if you
choose for whatever reason to not follow these accepted practices, then you
invite criticism. Quite often people who fail to follow accepted practices
in threaded discussions and choose to ignore request to start doing so, will
eventually be ignored completely and/or not taken seriously.
5) It's bad form to quote the entire message of an OP (Original Poster)
especially so if that message is more than just a few lines in length,
unless you are doing a point by point response to the message and properly
contextualizing your responses as you go. You should [snip] any comments you
are not responding to.
6) Address the person to whom you are replying and sign off at the end of
your post.
7) Try to avoid posting in another's thread - even if you have the same
problem.
Start your own thread in the group most applicable to your problem.
8) If you find a solution or one works as suggested, then please post back
with that information.
Here are some guidelines about how to correspond in newsgroups
http://members.fortunecity.com/nnqweb/nquote.html
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.html
Do not multipost. Crosspost if you must. Here is a
http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
How to ask a newsgroup question:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
How Not to Get Help in Newsgroups
http://users.tpg.com.au/bzyhjr/liszt.html
Sorry for the length :-(
Rgds
Antioch
