Windows Mail can't compress

[Kelly Greene]

Every time I close Wmail (Vista Home Prem) the compressing window pops up.
But it doesn't work. It can't compress the messages. I get an error. How do
I compress them manually, where are they and how can I stop or get rid of
this aggravating popup window?
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[thanatoid]

Every time I close Wmail (Vista Home Prem) the compressing
window pops up. But it doesn't work. It can't compress the
messages. I get an error. How do I compress them manually,
where are they and how can I stop or get rid of this
aggravating popup window?

You don't use MS shit, you get a real email program.

Not to mention you should have insisted on XP when getting your
computer. Vista is SO EXCELLENT that "Win 7" is already on
torrents. Not that's it's going to be any better - we already
know how MS deals with this. "The best OS for Windows ever".
EVERY time. Strangely, half of them are unusable garbage.

 

[Kelly Greene]

You don't use MS shit, you get a real email program.

Not to mention you should have insisted on XP when getting your
computer. Vista is SO EXCELLENT that "Win 7" is already on
torrents. Not that's it's going to be any better - we already
know how MS deals with this. "The best OS for Windows ever".
EVERY time. Strangely, half of them are unusable garbage.

Thank you for your quick reply.
Had I known the endless problems with Vista I would have insisted on XP
being installed. I tried a few email programs but none were as easy to use
as MS email. Can you recommend an easy to use intuitive one that works?

TIA.

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[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

.. I tried a few email programs but none were as easy to use as MS
email. Can you recommend an easy to use intuitive one that works?

Have a look at Thunderbird, the mail/news companion to the Firefox
browser. I doubt you will find its actual operation much different than
OE/WM - with the exception that it won't be stuffing up your mail. Like
OE/WM, it does News as well, though (also like OE/WM) it isn't a very
powerful newsreader.

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird

I've been using it since version 0.2 and it has never screwed up my
mail.

 

[thanatoid]

Thank you for your quick reply.

My pleasure.

Had I known the endless problems with Vista I would have
insisted on XP being installed. I tried a few email
programs but none were as easy to use as MS email. Can you
recommend an easy to use intuitive one that works?

Maybe you can change Vista to XP, even if it's a hundred bucks
it's probably more than worth it. I still use 98SE Lite (Google)
because I find even XP annoying as hell.

I use nPOP, a tiny non-webmail program (which of course allows
you to send and receive emails from and to webmail sites, just
without dealing with all the shit.

Here's the URL.

It's a little hairy, but it works like a dream. Read all the
info first. You can also get a free gmail account AND SET IT UP
to work with nPOP. Google foe "gmail with POP". /**** hotmail/,
pardon the expression.

http://www.nakka.com/soft/npop/index_eng.html

Go the English support page, it will help you a LOT.

If you receive LOTS of emails, you MAY want to do what I do,
copy the outbox and savebox files to a "storage" directory every
two months and start empty. But you probably don't have to, I
just like doing stuff like that.

If you don't like nPOP, a lot of people use Thunderbird. I've
never tried it, so...

 

[§ñühw¤£f]

Thank you for your quick reply.
Had I known the endless problems with Vista I would have insisted on XP
being installed. I tried a few email programs but none were as easy to
use as MS email. Can you recommend an easy to use intuitive one that
works?

TIA.

Pegasus Mail.

Probably the best email proggy ever for peeps stuck on windoze.

http://www.pmail.com/

HTH


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[Kelly Greene]

Pegasus Mail.

Probably the best email proggy ever for peeps stuck on windoze.

http://www.pmail.com/

If I remember right that doesn't have a spellchecker and I couldn't add
graphics to outgoing mail.

 

[Kelly Greene]

My pleasure.


Maybe you can change Vista to XP, even if it's a hundred bucks
it's probably more than worth it. I still use 98SE Lite (Google)
because I find even XP annoying as hell.

I was told by HP that I can't "downgrade" this PC. I'm stuck with Vista.
:-(

I use nPOP, a tiny non-webmail program (which of course allows
you to send and receive emails from and to webmail sites, just
without dealing with all the shit.

Here's the URL.

It's a little hairy, but it works like a dream. Read all the
info first. You can also get a free gmail account AND SET IT UP
to work with nPOP. Google foe "gmail with POP". /**** hotmail/,
pardon the expression.

http://www.nakka.com/soft/npop/index_eng.html

Go the English support page, it will help you a LOT.

If you receive LOTS of emails, you MAY want to do what I do,
copy the outbox and savebox files to a "storage" directory every
two months and start empty. But you probably don't have to, I
just like doing stuff like that.

If you don't like nPOP, a lot of people use Thunderbird. I've
never tried it, so...

Can they be copied from MSMail and moved somewhere else? How is the outbox
copied?
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[thanatoid]

If I remember right that doesn't have a spellchecker and I
couldn't add graphics to outgoing mail.

I use a system-wide spell checker (which is wonderful but does
not work on XP-Vista NYAH). WHY have 5 copies of the same
program, each one more trouble than the other, and anything can
be attached as attachments that can be attached.

Still, since I have never tried Pegasus I perhaps should just
keep quiet - but hey! it's me!

nPop rules AFAIAC.

 

[thanatoid]

I was told by HP that I can't "downgrade" this PC. I'm
stuck with Vista.
:-(

Sorry to hear that, but of course, it is not true.

Although it's too late for THAT, NEVER buy a brand name computer
unless you are an Apple freak.
Get a friendly neighborhood shop to build one to your /exact/
specs. They could have gotten you XP.

You can find a copy of XP in a multitude of places starting with
eBay and garage sales to Usenet warez groups.

You can back up your important data, WIPE the drive completely
deleting all the nice AOL ads etc, make some partitions (VERY
useful and NOT provided since not having them creates well-
paying work for techs and manufacturers) and install XP and then
reinstall your data from the backup, preferably onto another
partition.

Doing this will probably void you HP warranty but I doubt it's
worth anything anyway except endless emails and phone calls and
courier bills and months of waiting.

Can they be copied from MSMail and moved somewhere else?
How is the outbox copied?

I don't know anything about MS Mail.

The outbox is file called outbox in the tiny nPOP directory
which I just copy to a directory on my "data" partition called
"nPOP archive.

 

[Gary VanderMolen]

It isn't always as simple as wiping Vista and installing XP.
Some of the newest hardware doesn't have XP drivers available.
This is especially the case for laptops.

 

[§ñühw¤£f]

It isn't always as simple as wiping Vista and installing XP.
Some of the newest hardware doesn't have XP drivers available.
This is especially the case for laptops.

Agreed. Thats why Linux is so popular.

DIscuss.


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[Kelly Greene]

Sorry to hear that, but of course, it is not true.

Although it's too late for THAT, NEVER buy a brand name computer
unless you are an Apple freak.
Get a friendly neighborhood shop to build one to your /exact/
specs. They could have gotten you XP.

I had that done once. The PC cost almost TWICE what one off the shelf would
have cost and there were no guarantees beyond 30 days.

You can find a copy of XP in a multitude of places starting with
eBay and garage sales to Usenet warez groups.

You can back up your important data, WIPE the drive completely
deleting all the nice AOL ads etc, make some partitions (VERY
useful and NOT provided since not having them creates well-
paying work for techs and manufacturers) and install XP and then
reinstall your data from the backup, preferably onto another
partition.

I don't use AOL and have no idea how to do what you're suggesting. I would
have to pay a tech in town to do this and again, there would be no
guarantees/warranties it would work or if something goes wrong.

Doing this will probably void you HP warranty but I doubt it's
worth anything anyway except endless emails and phone calls and
courier bills and months of waiting.

HP's warranty is great. I've had no problems with HP in all the years I've
bought their PCs. Changing the OS would void the warranty. I was hoping
someone could help with the compacting problem with WMail.

I don't know anything about MS Mail.

The outbox is file called outbox in the tiny nPOP directory
which I just copy to a directory on my "data" partition called
"nPOP archive.

Thanks.... you're talking way over my head. )
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[Kelly Greene]

Agreed. Thats why Linux is so popular.

From what I understand Linux is not an OS for beginners or non-techie types,
and that software that runs on Windoze wont run on Linux.

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[thanatoid]

I had that done once. The PC cost almost TWICE what one off
the shelf would have cost and there were no guarantees
beyond 30 days.

You have to choose a good shop. Brand name computers are made
with the CHEAPEST components and you pay for the advertising and
the name and the "prestige". I had my first computer made EXACT
to order, 1 year warranty, BETTER quality than any brand, in
fact it still works perfectly almost 12 later.

/THIS/ one I bought used, a Compaq, because where I live now it
is impossible to get a computer custom-built.

But I wiped the drive, checked it (passed factory certification)
and installed JUST what I wanted. I also chose a used machine
that had what I needed and did NOT have what I did not need.

I don't use AOL and have no idea how to do what you're
suggesting.

Most brand name computers come with a lovely array of
advertisements for things like AOL, amazon, some ISP, etc . A
custom made computer comes with a clean drive with no garbage
unless you ask the shop to install your OS to YOUR specs (like
how many partitions etc).

I would have to pay a tech in town to do this
and again, there would be no guarantees/warranties it would
work or if something goes wrong.

People who do good work DO provide warranties. Besides, in 99%
of cases, if it works for a month, it will work for years.

HP's warranty is great. I've had no problems with HP in
all the years I've bought their PCs. Changing the OS would
void the warranty. I was hoping someone could help with the
compacting problem with WMail.
OK.

I have never used either so can't help you, sorry, but it very
possibly has an "import" function. You can also probably open
your old emails in a real txt editor (like Edxor or UltraEdit)
and save it as text. I hate html webmail.

Thanks.... you're talking way over my head. )

Oh well... None of this is stuff is nearly as important as the
money boys are making us think it is...

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

From what I understand Linux is not an OS for beginners or non-techie
types,

You've been listening to the wrong people.

http://www.ubuntu.com/

I've installed Ubuntu on the PCs of a number of mostly computer
illiterate people, and once installed and given a short training
session, they don't have any problem with it. It is not harder, just
different. It took you time to learn Windows - you didn't instantly know
how to use it; you should give the same chance to Linux.

Those people are especially pleased that they no longer have to worry
about viruses, worms, trojans, defragging, and all that stuff.

and that software that runs on Windoze wont run on Linux.

Chances are good there will be a companion application already waiting
for you in Ubuntu's repository of 20,000 free programs that will do the
same job - just a couple of clicks to install. If in the rare case there
isn't, you can probably run the actual Windows program in the Linux
Windows-emulator called Wine.

<http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Linux_software_equivalent_to_Windows_software>

 

[walter]

If "popular" is defined as less than 5% of people using it as their everyday
OS, you're right.

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp

Or would you contend that w3schools has an axe to grind and deliberately
skews the numbers?

 

[Gary VanderMolen]

From what I understand Linux is not an OS for beginners or non-techie types,
and that software that runs on Windoze wont run on Linux.

That's right. Linux is no solution for non-technical persons.
When I tried it a couple of years ago, it didn't have the right driver
for my printer, or my modem, or my graphics card.
Latest statistics on web surfing show that Linux is installed on only 4%
of online computers. I wouldn't exactly call that popular.

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

If "popular" is defined as less than 5% of people using it as their
everyday OS, you're right.

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp

Or would you contend that w3schools has an axe to grind and
deliberately skews the numbers?

I'll say that the stats at w3schools are skewed towards technical
people, as it is not a common site for the common man. That said, 5% may
be about right - at that site. Other sites claim about 1%.

However, there is no real way to accurately count Linux users as there
is no license to buy and record. You can download one .iso file, burn
one (or thousands of) CDs and install thousands of copies from that.

And since most stats come from web site analyzing of the browser User
Agent string, remember that those can be forged. Many do, because sites
sometimes tell you that you "need Internet Explorer" to use the site.

I wonder what they do with my UA string:
Borgzilla/31.0 (Resistance is futile)

You might wonder what OS I'm using on this box. Just because I'm using a
Windows newsreader (see headers) does not mean that the OS behind it is
any flavor of Windows. (40tude Dialog is my only Windows software.)

 

[Mike Easter]

Linux is no solution for non-technical persons.

If a pre-installed Windows operating system or its registry get broken,
then a b0rken Windows is no solution for a non-technical person without
some technical help from others who are familiar with how to fix it.

When I tried it a couple of years ago, it didn't have the right driver
for my printer, or my modem, or my graphics card.

That's because in the beginning you chose to buy hardware whose drivers
were designed for a preinstalled MS OS and then you attempted to impose on
that hardware a non-MS OS without getting adequate help from others who
were familiar with how to solve the problem.

Latest statistics on web surfing show that Linux is installed on only 4%
of online computers. I wouldn't exactly call that popular.

Let's just say that it is a low percentage which is growing and that
popularity is a very dynamic thing.