Windows explorer in overdrive, again

M

Markkk

Earlier this month, I conversed through this newsgroup with Gerry about
excessive CPU usage occurring occasionally when running certain programs,
including iexplore.exe, spoolsv.exe and iTunes.exe. Jerry advised my
downloading and running Malwarebytes’ Anti-Malware, which I did, finding and
removing 8 Trojans and other malware.

The heavy breathing, as I call the excessive CPU usage, seemed less for
awhile, though it may simply have slowed down because it’s an intermittent
problem. Whatever, it’s back again as much as before. I’ve rerun
Malwarebytes’ Anti-Malware since noticing the return of the heavy breathing,
but found no trace of malware.

During our earlier exchanges, Jerry recommended I download and install
Process Explorer to help troubleshoot any unwanted CPU usage and that I post
the command lines of the offending programs. This I have done and include the
command lines below:

C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunes.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\spoolsv.exe

I have two questions relating to all this:

1. Most importantly, how do I get rid of this excessive CPU usage and keep
my computer from randomly slowing to crawl? When it hits iTunes, the music
just becomes static, and with spoolsv.exe it slows draft printing to about 1
page every two minutes.

2. How do I use Process Explorer to diagnose unnecessary CPU usage? The
program just shows me a bunch of numbers and charts meaning very little to me.
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Chances are that you're still seeing the affects of a hijackware infection
(cf. http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=37919) & you have more work to
do.

1. See if you can download/run the MSRT manually:
http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx

2. Run this online scan (in safe mode w/networking, if need be):
http://onecare.live.com/site/en-us/center/howsafe.htm

3. Run a /thorough/ check for hijackware, including posting the requested
logs in an appropriate forum.

Checking for/Help with Hijackware
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/tshoot.html
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware

**Post your logs to
http://spywarehammer.com/simplemachinesforum/index.php?board=10.0,
http://forums.spybot.info/forumdisplay.php?f=22,
http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30, or another appropriate forum for review
by an expert in such matters, not here.**

If the procedures look too complex - and there is no shame in admitting this
isn't your cup of tea - take the machine to a local, reputable and
independent (i.e., not BigBoxStoreUSA) computer repair shop.
 
G

Gerry

Mark

What is your printer make and model?

Select Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services. Locate the
Print Spooler Service, right click, select Properties. What is the
StartUp Type? It should be Automatic.

Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right click on
the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties,
Hardware, Device Manager. If yes what is the Device Error code?

Are there any errors in Event Viewer?

Have a look in the System and Application logs in Event Viewer for
Errors and Warnings and post copies here. Don't post any more than 48
hours ago.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.

Does it take overlong to clear the print queue?



--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
M

Markkk

My printer is an Epson Stylus CX4800.

The StartUp Type is Automatic.

There are no yellow question marks in Device Manager.

In Event Viewer, there are no Application Errors or Warnings since last
year, but there are System Errors and Warnings from as recently as Jan. 26,
2009. However, spoolsv.exe hogged CPU usage at 50% twice this evening, but no
Error or Warning messages were displayed afterward in any Event Viewer
category -- System, Administrative, etc. So I don’t think Event Viewer logs
whatever is causing the print slowdown. The last System and Application Event
Viewer entries are from this morning and show everything fine.

As far as clearing the print queue goes, as I say, the whole print operation
slows to a crawl, drafts printing about 1 page every 2 minutes, so I believe
the queue’s clearing must slow proportionally, though I haven’t actually
watched the queue during the slowdowns, which occur only sporadically and
unpredictably.
 
G

Gerry

Mark

What is your CPU capacity. What is your computer make and model? It
could be your CPU capacity is a system bottleneck.

Check you have the latest drivers for your Epson Stylus CX4800
http://snipurl.com/b1ra5 [www_epson_com]

Transferring data through a USB connections is slow. You do have a USB
2.00 connection?

Printer spooling is not a priority service. When you see problems are
you printing text or graphics? It can help if you avoid having too many
programmes open when printing from certain programmes.

Choosing to print in black and white may help (page 5/05)
http://files.support.epson.com/pdf/cx48__/cx48__pg.pdf

Something I do not understand is the role of printer memory in
proceedings. You can increase printer memory for HP products. I find no
mention of it for an Epson. For my HP products additional memory was an
expensive addition I chose not to buy.

You might get more pointed advice on this issue in a printer newsgroup.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
M

Markkk

I have apparently two Intel (R) Pentium (R) 4 3.0 GHz CPUs, my computer
being an ACPI Multiprocessor PC, according to the entries in Device Manager.
As far as actual CPU capacity, in terms of RAM or whatever, I couldn’t find
that out. Though it seems like two fast processors like that could do better
than one page of text in draft mode every two minutes.

I checked on Epson printer updates, and the only new one since I got the
printer is for scanning. There have been no new ones for printing, which is
where I have the slowing-down problem.

Let me note that the slowing down happens with either text or graphics, and
in the supposedly fastest mode, black-and-white draft. Also it seems
independent of the number of programs I have open, happening even when I’m
just printing something from the word processor, with nothing else open.

I’d like to reiterate, though, that the slowing down does not happen only
while I’m printing. As I’ve said, it also happens when I’m in Explorer and
playing iTunes. In Explorer, everything slows to an agonizing crawl; and in
iTunes, the music breaks up into unintelligible static. Concomitantly with
these slowdowns, my CPU usage goes to about 50% for these programs and the
fan starts working in overdrive. It’s an intermittent problem, sometimes
interfering with these applications, and lasting a short while or perhaps as
much as 10 minutes, or until I force the overexerting application to shut
down.

Do you think somehow the computer is scanning for viruses when the slowdown
happens? You said spooling is not a priority service. Are iexplore.exe and
iTunes.exe priority services? Maybe I need to make these three programs
priority services, somehow, if that’s possible.



Gerry said:
Mark

What is your CPU capacity. What is your computer make and model? It
could be your CPU capacity is a system bottleneck.

Check you have the latest drivers for your Epson Stylus CX4800
http://snipurl.com/b1ra5 [www_epson_com]

Transferring data through a USB connections is slow. You do have a USB
2.00 connection?

Printer spooling is not a priority service. When you see problems are
you printing text or graphics? It can help if you avoid having too many
programmes open when printing from certain programmes.

Choosing to print in black and white may help (page 5/05)
http://files.support.epson.com/pdf/cx48__/cx48__pg.pdf

Something I do not understand is the role of printer memory in
proceedings. You can increase printer memory for HP products. I find no
mention of it for an Epson. For my HP products additional memory was an
expensive addition I chose not to buy.

You might get more pointed advice on this issue in a printer newsgroup.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
My printer is an Epson Stylus CX4800.

The StartUp Type is Automatic.

There are no yellow question marks in Device Manager.

In Event Viewer, there are no Application Errors or Warnings since
last year, but there are System Errors and Warnings from as recently
as Jan. 26, 2009. However, spoolsv.exe hogged CPU usage at 50% twice
this evening, but no Error or Warning messages were displayed
afterward in any Event Viewer category -- System, Administrative,
etc. So I don't think Event Viewer logs whatever is causing the print
slowdown. The last System and Application Event Viewer entries are
from this morning and show everything fine.

As far as clearing the print queue goes, as I say, the whole print
operation slows to a crawl, drafts printing about 1 page every 2
minutes, so I believe the queue's clearing must slow proportionally,
though I haven't actually watched the queue during the slowdowns,
which occur only sporadically and unpredictably.
 
G

Gerry

Mark

What is the CPU and how much RAM does your computer have? Right click on
the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties to get this
information.

The CPU capacity is not expressed in term of RAM. RAM =Random Access
Memory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPU

Graphics will take longer to print than text.

Open programmes are relevant as the queueing problem can go away on my
computer if I close programmes like my accounting package, Excel, Word
etc. I have observed the phenomenon many times. The problem can be
exacerbated by multi-tasking i.e. other programmes running in the
background. Some are visible in Task Manager but others are not.
Scheduled Tasks, like an anti-virus scan, can take resources and you may
not be conscious of this being in progress. Malware can also conceal
it's activities so that CPU usuge is not revealed in Task Manager and
Process Explorer.

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?

Is the computer left on 24/7?

I am conscious that I have not responded to your references to Internet
Explorer and iTines but try to tackle over many issues at the same time
takes away the focus from a particular problem. I have been endeavouring
the resolve the printer problem before moving on to other issues.

Here's an explanation of spooling:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spooling

From Task Manager Help -search criteria "priority"

To change the priority of a running program
On the Processes tab, right-click the program you want to change, point
to Set Priority, and then click the command you want.
Notes
To view the priority of running programs, on the Processes tab, on the
View menu, click Select Columns. In the Select Columns dialog box,
select the Base Priority check box, and then click OK.
Changing the priority of a process can make it run faster or slower
(depending on whether you raise or lower the priority), but it can also
adversely affect the performance of other processes.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have apparently two Intel (R) Pentium (R) 4 3.0 GHz CPUs, my
computer being an ACPI Multiprocessor PC, according to the entries in
Device Manager. As far as actual CPU capacity, in terms of RAM or
whatever, I couldn't find that out. Though it seems like two fast
processors like that could do better than one page of text in draft
mode every two minutes.

I checked on Epson printer updates, and the only new one since I got
the printer is for scanning. There have been no new ones for
printing, which is where I have the slowing-down problem.

Let me note that the slowing down happens with either text or
graphics, and in the supposedly fastest mode, black-and-white draft.
Also it seems independent of the number of programs I have open,
happening even when I'm just printing something from the word
processor, with nothing else open.

I'd like to reiterate, though, that the slowing down does not happen
only while I'm printing. As I've said, it also happens when I'm in
Explorer and playing iTunes. In Explorer, everything slows to an
agonizing crawl; and in iTunes, the music breaks up into
unintelligible static. Concomitantly with these slowdowns, my CPU
usage goes to about 50% for these programs and the fan starts working
in overdrive. It's an intermittent problem, sometimes interfering
with these applications, and lasting a short while or perhaps as much
as 10 minutes, or until I force the overexerting application to shut
down.

Do you think somehow the computer is scanning for viruses when the
slowdown happens? You said spooling is not a priority service. Are
iexplore.exe and iTunes.exe priority services? Maybe I need to make
these three programs priority services, somehow, if that's possible.



Gerry said:
Mark

What is your CPU capacity. What is your computer make and model? It
could be your CPU capacity is a system bottleneck.

Check you have the latest drivers for your Epson Stylus CX4800
http://snipurl.com/b1ra5 [www_epson_com]

Transferring data through a USB connections is slow. You do have a
USB
2.00 connection?

Printer spooling is not a priority service. When you see problems are
you printing text or graphics? It can help if you avoid having too
many programmes open when printing from certain programmes.

Choosing to print in black and white may help (page 5/05)
http://files.support.epson.com/pdf/cx48__/cx48__pg.pdf

Something I do not understand is the role of printer memory in
proceedings. You can increase printer memory for HP products. I find
no mention of it for an Epson. For my HP products additional memory
was an expensive addition I chose not to buy.

You might get more pointed advice on this issue in a printer
newsgroup.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
My printer is an Epson Stylus CX4800.

The StartUp Type is Automatic.

There are no yellow question marks in Device Manager.

In Event Viewer, there are no Application Errors or Warnings since
last year, but there are System Errors and Warnings from as recently
as Jan. 26, 2009. However, spoolsv.exe hogged CPU usage at 50% twice
this evening, but no Error or Warning messages were displayed
afterward in any Event Viewer category -- System, Administrative,
etc. So I don't think Event Viewer logs whatever is causing the
print slowdown. The last System and Application Event Viewer
entries are from this morning and show everything fine.

As far as clearing the print queue goes, as I say, the whole print
operation slows to a crawl, drafts printing about 1 page every 2
minutes, so I believe the queue's clearing must slow proportionally,
though I haven't actually watched the queue during the slowdowns,
which occur only sporadically and unpredictably.


:

Mark

What is your printer make and model?

Select Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services. Locate
the Print Spooler Service, right click, select Properties. What is
the StartUp Type? It should be Automatic.

Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right click
on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties,
Hardware, Device Manager. If yes what is the Device Error code?

Are there any errors in Event Viewer?

Have a look in the System and Application logs in Event Viewer for
Errors and Warnings and post copies here. Don't post any more than
48 hours ago.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the
meaning of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and
Description are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and
double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which
appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the button and
close Event Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste
into the body of the message. Make sure this is the first paste
after exiting from Event Viewer.

Does it take overlong to clear the print queue?



--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Markkk wrote:
Earlier this month, I conversed through this newsgroup with Gerry
about excessive CPU usage occurring occasionally when running
certain programs, including iexplore.exe, spoolsv.exe and
iTunes.exe. Jerry advised my downloading and running Malwarebytes'
Anti-Malware, which I did, finding and removing 8 Trojans and
other malware.

The heavy breathing, as I call the excessive CPU usage, seemed
less for awhile, though it may simply have slowed down because
it's an intermittent problem. Whatever, it's back again as much
as before. I've rerun Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware since noticing
the return of the heavy breathing, but found no trace of malware.

During our earlier exchanges, Jerry recommended I download and
install Process Explorer to help troubleshoot any unwanted CPU
usage and that I post the command lines of the offending programs.
This I have done and include the command lines below:

C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunes.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\spoolsv.exe

I have two questions relating to all this:

1. Most importantly, how do I get rid of this excessive CPU usage
and keep
my computer from randomly slowing to crawl? When it hits iTunes,
the music just becomes static, and with spoolsv.exe it slows draft
printing to about 1 page every two minutes.

2. How do I use Process Explorer to diagnose unnecessary CPU
usage? The program just shows me a bunch of numbers and charts
meaning very little to me.
 
M

Markkk

As I said, I have two CPUs, both Pentium 4 running at 3 GHz, which make up
my ACPI Multiprocessor. I have 1 GB of RAM.

Also as I said, I get slowing down when I only have one program open.

When the computer is operating normally and not hogging CPU capacity, the
Commit Charges are as follows: Total (309 MB), Limit (2.5 GB) and Peak (607
MB). I don’t know what these values are when the computer is hogging
capacity, which it only does intermittently. I’ll have to check the values
next time it happens -- I never know when that will be -- and let you know.

Thanks for the info on how to change a program’s priority. I changed the
priority of spoolsv.exe and iexplore.exe from Normal (8) to High (13). We’ll
see if there’s less abnormal CPU hogging and consequent slowing down.

The reason I keep mentioning iexplore.exe and iTunes.exe is that the slowing
down that occurs with them seems the same kind of thing as with spoolsv.exe,
with the fan running at high speed, the CPU usage jumping to around 50% from
much lower, and of course everything slowing to a crawl. Those three programs
seem similarly affected.



Gerry said:
Mark

What is the CPU and how much RAM does your computer have? Right click on
the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties to get this
information.

The CPU capacity is not expressed in term of RAM. RAM =Random Access
Memory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPU

Graphics will take longer to print than text.

Open programmes are relevant as the queueing problem can go away on my
computer if I close programmes like my accounting package, Excel, Word
etc. I have observed the phenomenon many times. The problem can be
exacerbated by multi-tasking i.e. other programmes running in the
background. Some are visible in Task Manager but others are not.
Scheduled Tasks, like an anti-virus scan, can take resources and you may
not be conscious of this being in progress. Malware can also conceal
it's activities so that CPU usuge is not revealed in Task Manager and
Process Explorer.

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?

Is the computer left on 24/7?

I am conscious that I have not responded to your references to Internet
Explorer and iTines but try to tackle over many issues at the same time
takes away the focus from a particular problem. I have been endeavouring
the resolve the printer problem before moving on to other issues.

Here's an explanation of spooling:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spooling

From Task Manager Help -search criteria "priority"

To change the priority of a running program
On the Processes tab, right-click the program you want to change, point
to Set Priority, and then click the command you want.
Notes
To view the priority of running programs, on the Processes tab, on the
View menu, click Select Columns. In the Select Columns dialog box,
select the Base Priority check box, and then click OK.
Changing the priority of a process can make it run faster or slower
(depending on whether you raise or lower the priority), but it can also
adversely affect the performance of other processes.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have apparently two Intel (R) Pentium (R) 4 3.0 GHz CPUs, my
computer being an ACPI Multiprocessor PC, according to the entries in
Device Manager. As far as actual CPU capacity, in terms of RAM or
whatever, I couldn't find that out. Though it seems like two fast
processors like that could do better than one page of text in draft
mode every two minutes.

I checked on Epson printer updates, and the only new one since I got
the printer is for scanning. There have been no new ones for
printing, which is where I have the slowing-down problem.

Let me note that the slowing down happens with either text or
graphics, and in the supposedly fastest mode, black-and-white draft.
Also it seems independent of the number of programs I have open,
happening even when I'm just printing something from the word
processor, with nothing else open.

I'd like to reiterate, though, that the slowing down does not happen
only while I'm printing. As I've said, it also happens when I'm in
Explorer and playing iTunes. In Explorer, everything slows to an
agonizing crawl; and in iTunes, the music breaks up into
unintelligible static. Concomitantly with these slowdowns, my CPU
usage goes to about 50% for these programs and the fan starts working
in overdrive. It's an intermittent problem, sometimes interfering
with these applications, and lasting a short while or perhaps as much
as 10 minutes, or until I force the overexerting application to shut
down.

Do you think somehow the computer is scanning for viruses when the
slowdown happens? You said spooling is not a priority service. Are
iexplore.exe and iTunes.exe priority services? Maybe I need to make
these three programs priority services, somehow, if that's possible.



Gerry said:
Mark

What is your CPU capacity. What is your computer make and model? It
could be your CPU capacity is a system bottleneck.

Check you have the latest drivers for your Epson Stylus CX4800
http://snipurl.com/b1ra5 [www_epson_com]

Transferring data through a USB connections is slow. You do have a
USB
2.00 connection?

Printer spooling is not a priority service. When you see problems are
you printing text or graphics? It can help if you avoid having too
many programmes open when printing from certain programmes.

Choosing to print in black and white may help (page 5/05)
http://files.support.epson.com/pdf/cx48__/cx48__pg.pdf

Something I do not understand is the role of printer memory in
proceedings. You can increase printer memory for HP products. I find
no mention of it for an Epson. For my HP products additional memory
was an expensive addition I chose not to buy.

You might get more pointed advice on this issue in a printer
newsgroup.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Markkk wrote:
My printer is an Epson Stylus CX4800.

The StartUp Type is Automatic.

There are no yellow question marks in Device Manager.

In Event Viewer, there are no Application Errors or Warnings since
last year, but there are System Errors and Warnings from as recently
as Jan. 26, 2009. However, spoolsv.exe hogged CPU usage at 50% twice
this evening, but no Error or Warning messages were displayed
afterward in any Event Viewer category -- System, Administrative,
etc. So I don't think Event Viewer logs whatever is causing the
print slowdown. The last System and Application Event Viewer
entries are from this morning and show everything fine.

As far as clearing the print queue goes, as I say, the whole print
operation slows to a crawl, drafts printing about 1 page every 2
minutes, so I believe the queue's clearing must slow proportionally,
though I haven't actually watched the queue during the slowdowns,
which occur only sporadically and unpredictably.


:

Mark

What is your printer make and model?

Select Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services. Locate
the Print Spooler Service, right click, select Properties. What is
the StartUp Type? It should be Automatic.

Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right click
on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties,
Hardware, Device Manager. If yes what is the Device Error code?

Are there any errors in Event Viewer?

Have a look in the System and Application logs in Event Viewer for
Errors and Warnings and post copies here. Don't post any more than
48 hours ago.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the
meaning of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and
Description are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and
double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which
appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the button and
close Event Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste
into the body of the message. Make sure this is the first paste
after exiting from Event Viewer.

Does it take overlong to clear the print queue?



--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Markkk wrote:
Earlier this month, I conversed through this newsgroup with Gerry
about excessive CPU usage occurring occasionally when running
certain programs, including iexplore.exe, spoolsv.exe and
iTunes.exe. Jerry advised my downloading and running Malwarebytes'
Anti-Malware, which I did, finding and removing 8 Trojans and
other malware.

The heavy breathing, as I call the excessive CPU usage, seemed
less for awhile, though it may simply have slowed down because
it's an intermittent problem. Whatever, it's back again as much
as before. I've rerun Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware since noticing
the return of the heavy breathing, but found no trace of malware.

During our earlier exchanges, Jerry recommended I download and
install Process Explorer to help troubleshoot any unwanted CPU
usage and that I post the command lines of the offending programs.
This I have done and include the command lines below:

C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunes.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\spoolsv.exe

I have two questions relating to all this:

1. Most importantly, how do I get rid of this excessive CPU usage
and keep
my computer from randomly slowing to crawl? When it hits iTunes,
the music just becomes static, and with spoolsv.exe it slows draft
printing to about 1 page every two minutes.

2. How do I use Process Explorer to diagnose unnecessary CPU
usage? The program just shows me a bunch of numbers and charts
meaning very little to me.
 
M

Markkk

A stroke of luck this afternoon allowed me to capture a picture of the
CPU-hogging in printsv.exe by using System Info in Process Explorer. I also
have a picture of normal printsv.exe operation under exactly the same
conditions, in terms of the programs open at the time, for comparison
purposes.

I’d like to post these pictures here to help with your troubleshooting, but
don’t seem to be able to include jpegs, which these are. Is there some way to
do this?




Gerry said:
Mark

What is the CPU and how much RAM does your computer have? Right click on
the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties to get this
information.

The CPU capacity is not expressed in term of RAM. RAM =Random Access
Memory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPU

Graphics will take longer to print than text.

Open programmes are relevant as the queueing problem can go away on my
computer if I close programmes like my accounting package, Excel, Word
etc. I have observed the phenomenon many times. The problem can be
exacerbated by multi-tasking i.e. other programmes running in the
background. Some are visible in Task Manager but others are not.
Scheduled Tasks, like an anti-virus scan, can take resources and you may
not be conscious of this being in progress. Malware can also conceal
it's activities so that CPU usuge is not revealed in Task Manager and
Process Explorer.

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?

Is the computer left on 24/7?

I am conscious that I have not responded to your references to Internet
Explorer and iTines but try to tackle over many issues at the same time
takes away the focus from a particular problem. I have been endeavouring
the resolve the printer problem before moving on to other issues.

Here's an explanation of spooling:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spooling

From Task Manager Help -search criteria "priority"

To change the priority of a running program
On the Processes tab, right-click the program you want to change, point
to Set Priority, and then click the command you want.
Notes
To view the priority of running programs, on the Processes tab, on the
View menu, click Select Columns. In the Select Columns dialog box,
select the Base Priority check box, and then click OK.
Changing the priority of a process can make it run faster or slower
(depending on whether you raise or lower the priority), but it can also
adversely affect the performance of other processes.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have apparently two Intel (R) Pentium (R) 4 3.0 GHz CPUs, my
computer being an ACPI Multiprocessor PC, according to the entries in
Device Manager. As far as actual CPU capacity, in terms of RAM or
whatever, I couldn't find that out. Though it seems like two fast
processors like that could do better than one page of text in draft
mode every two minutes.

I checked on Epson printer updates, and the only new one since I got
the printer is for scanning. There have been no new ones for
printing, which is where I have the slowing-down problem.

Let me note that the slowing down happens with either text or
graphics, and in the supposedly fastest mode, black-and-white draft.
Also it seems independent of the number of programs I have open,
happening even when I'm just printing something from the word
processor, with nothing else open.

I'd like to reiterate, though, that the slowing down does not happen
only while I'm printing. As I've said, it also happens when I'm in
Explorer and playing iTunes. In Explorer, everything slows to an
agonizing crawl; and in iTunes, the music breaks up into
unintelligible static. Concomitantly with these slowdowns, my CPU
usage goes to about 50% for these programs and the fan starts working
in overdrive. It's an intermittent problem, sometimes interfering
with these applications, and lasting a short while or perhaps as much
as 10 minutes, or until I force the overexerting application to shut
down.

Do you think somehow the computer is scanning for viruses when the
slowdown happens? You said spooling is not a priority service. Are
iexplore.exe and iTunes.exe priority services? Maybe I need to make
these three programs priority services, somehow, if that's possible.



Gerry said:
Mark

What is your CPU capacity. What is your computer make and model? It
could be your CPU capacity is a system bottleneck.

Check you have the latest drivers for your Epson Stylus CX4800
http://snipurl.com/b1ra5 [www_epson_com]

Transferring data through a USB connections is slow. You do have a
USB
2.00 connection?

Printer spooling is not a priority service. When you see problems are
you printing text or graphics? It can help if you avoid having too
many programmes open when printing from certain programmes.

Choosing to print in black and white may help (page 5/05)
http://files.support.epson.com/pdf/cx48__/cx48__pg.pdf

Something I do not understand is the role of printer memory in
proceedings. You can increase printer memory for HP products. I find
no mention of it for an Epson. For my HP products additional memory
was an expensive addition I chose not to buy.

You might get more pointed advice on this issue in a printer
newsgroup.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Markkk wrote:
My printer is an Epson Stylus CX4800.

The StartUp Type is Automatic.

There are no yellow question marks in Device Manager.

In Event Viewer, there are no Application Errors or Warnings since
last year, but there are System Errors and Warnings from as recently
as Jan. 26, 2009. However, spoolsv.exe hogged CPU usage at 50% twice
this evening, but no Error or Warning messages were displayed
afterward in any Event Viewer category -- System, Administrative,
etc. So I don't think Event Viewer logs whatever is causing the
print slowdown. The last System and Application Event Viewer
entries are from this morning and show everything fine.

As far as clearing the print queue goes, as I say, the whole print
operation slows to a crawl, drafts printing about 1 page every 2
minutes, so I believe the queue's clearing must slow proportionally,
though I haven't actually watched the queue during the slowdowns,
which occur only sporadically and unpredictably.


:

Mark

What is your printer make and model?

Select Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services. Locate
the Print Spooler Service, right click, select Properties. What is
the StartUp Type? It should be Automatic.

Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right click
on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties,
Hardware, Device Manager. If yes what is the Device Error code?

Are there any errors in Event Viewer?

Have a look in the System and Application logs in Event Viewer for
Errors and Warnings and post copies here. Don't post any more than
48 hours ago.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the
meaning of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and
Description are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and
double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which
appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the button and
close Event Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste
into the body of the message. Make sure this is the first paste
after exiting from Event Viewer.

Does it take overlong to clear the print queue?



--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Markkk wrote:
Earlier this month, I conversed through this newsgroup with Gerry
about excessive CPU usage occurring occasionally when running
certain programs, including iexplore.exe, spoolsv.exe and
iTunes.exe. Jerry advised my downloading and running Malwarebytes'
Anti-Malware, which I did, finding and removing 8 Trojans and
other malware.

The heavy breathing, as I call the excessive CPU usage, seemed
less for awhile, though it may simply have slowed down because
it's an intermittent problem. Whatever, it's back again as much
as before. I've rerun Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware since noticing
the return of the heavy breathing, but found no trace of malware.

During our earlier exchanges, Jerry recommended I download and
install Process Explorer to help troubleshoot any unwanted CPU
usage and that I post the command lines of the offending programs.
This I have done and include the command lines below:

C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunes.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\spoolsv.exe

I have two questions relating to all this:

1. Most importantly, how do I get rid of this excessive CPU usage
and keep
my computer from randomly slowing to crawl? When it hits iTunes,
the music just becomes static, and with spoolsv.exe it slows draft
printing to about 1 page every two minutes.

2. How do I use Process Explorer to diagnose unnecessary CPU
usage? The program just shows me a bunch of numbers and charts
meaning very little to me.
 
G

Gerry

Mark

Normally users do not post pictures to these newsgroups. Sometimes they
place them on web sitesand include a link in their post. That's the
limit of my knowledge on that question.

I tried enquiring about printsv.exe. The results were extremely meagre.
Are you using Microsoft Small Business Server 2003 or 2008?

--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~















A stroke of luck this afternoon allowed me to capture a picture of the
CPU-hogging in printsv.exe by using System Info in Process Explorer.
I also have a picture of normal printsv.exe operation under exactly
the same conditions, in terms of the programs open at the time, for
comparison purposes.

I'd like to post these pictures here to help with your
troubleshooting, but don't seem to be able to include jpegs, which
these are. Is there some way to do this?




Gerry said:
Mark

What is the CPU and how much RAM does your computer have? Right
click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties
to get this information.

The CPU capacity is not expressed in term of RAM. RAM =Random Access
Memory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPU

Graphics will take longer to print than text.

Open programmes are relevant as the queueing problem can go away on
my computer if I close programmes like my accounting package, Excel,
Word etc. I have observed the phenomenon many times. The problem can
be exacerbated by multi-tasking i.e. other programmes running in the
background. Some are visible in Task Manager but others are not.
Scheduled Tasks, like an anti-virus scan, can take resources and you
may not be conscious of this being in progress. Malware can also
conceal it's activities so that CPU usuge is not revealed in Task
Manager and Process Explorer.

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?

Is the computer left on 24/7?

I am conscious that I have not responded to your references to
Internet Explorer and iTines but try to tackle over many issues at
the same time takes away the focus from a particular problem. I have
been endeavouring the resolve the printer problem before moving on
to other issues.

Here's an explanation of spooling:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spooling

From Task Manager Help -search criteria "priority"

To change the priority of a running program
On the Processes tab, right-click the program you want to change,
point to Set Priority, and then click the command you want.
Notes
To view the priority of running programs, on the Processes tab, on
the View menu, click Select Columns. In the Select Columns dialog
box, select the Base Priority check box, and then click OK.
Changing the priority of a process can make it run faster or slower
(depending on whether you raise or lower the priority), but it can
also adversely affect the performance of other processes.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have apparently two Intel (R) Pentium (R) 4 3.0 GHz CPUs, my
computer being an ACPI Multiprocessor PC, according to the entries
in Device Manager. As far as actual CPU capacity, in terms of RAM or
whatever, I couldn't find that out. Though it seems like two fast
processors like that could do better than one page of text in draft
mode every two minutes.

I checked on Epson printer updates, and the only new one since I got
the printer is for scanning. There have been no new ones for
printing, which is where I have the slowing-down problem.

Let me note that the slowing down happens with either text or
graphics, and in the supposedly fastest mode, black-and-white draft.
Also it seems independent of the number of programs I have open,
happening even when I'm just printing something from the word
processor, with nothing else open.

I'd like to reiterate, though, that the slowing down does not happen
only while I'm printing. As I've said, it also happens when I'm in
Explorer and playing iTunes. In Explorer, everything slows to an
agonizing crawl; and in iTunes, the music breaks up into
unintelligible static. Concomitantly with these slowdowns, my CPU
usage goes to about 50% for these programs and the fan starts
working in overdrive. It's an intermittent problem, sometimes
interfering with these applications, and lasting a short while or
perhaps as much as 10 minutes, or until I force the overexerting
application to shut down.

Do you think somehow the computer is scanning for viruses when the
slowdown happens? You said spooling is not a priority service. Are
iexplore.exe and iTunes.exe priority services? Maybe I need to make
these three programs priority services, somehow, if that's possible.



:

Mark

What is your CPU capacity. What is your computer make and model? It
could be your CPU capacity is a system bottleneck.

Check you have the latest drivers for your Epson Stylus CX4800
http://snipurl.com/b1ra5 [www_epson_com]

Transferring data through a USB connections is slow. You do have a
USB
2.00 connection?

Printer spooling is not a priority service. When you see problems
are you printing text or graphics? It can help if you avoid having
too many programmes open when printing from certain programmes.

Choosing to print in black and white may help (page 5/05)
http://files.support.epson.com/pdf/cx48__/cx48__pg.pdf

Something I do not understand is the role of printer memory in
proceedings. You can increase printer memory for HP products. I
find no mention of it for an Epson. For my HP products additional
memory was an expensive addition I chose not to buy.

You might get more pointed advice on this issue in a printer
newsgroup.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Markkk wrote:
My printer is an Epson Stylus CX4800.

The StartUp Type is Automatic.

There are no yellow question marks in Device Manager.

In Event Viewer, there are no Application Errors or Warnings since
last year, but there are System Errors and Warnings from as
recently as Jan. 26, 2009. However, spoolsv.exe hogged CPU usage
at 50% twice this evening, but no Error or Warning messages were
displayed afterward in any Event Viewer category -- System,
Administrative, etc. So I don't think Event Viewer logs whatever
is causing the print slowdown. The last System and Application
Event Viewer entries are from this morning and show everything
fine.

As far as clearing the print queue goes, as I say, the whole print
operation slows to a crawl, drafts printing about 1 page every 2
minutes, so I believe the queue's clearing must slow
proportionally, though I haven't actually watched the queue
during the slowdowns, which occur only sporadically and
unpredictably.


:

Mark

What is your printer make and model?

Select Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services.
Locate the Print Spooler Service, right click, select
Properties. What is the StartUp Type? It should be Automatic.

Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right
click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select
Properties, Hardware, Device Manager. If yes what is the Device
Error code?

Are there any errors in Event Viewer?

Have a look in the System and Application logs in Event Viewer
for Errors and Warnings and post copies here. Don't post any
more than 48 hours ago.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the
meaning of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and
Description are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and
double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which
appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the button and
close Event Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste
into the body of the message. Make sure this is the first paste
after exiting from Event Viewer.

Does it take overlong to clear the print queue?



--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Markkk wrote:
Earlier this month, I conversed through this newsgroup with
Gerry about excessive CPU usage occurring occasionally when
running certain programs, including iexplore.exe, spoolsv.exe
and iTunes.exe. Jerry advised my downloading and running
Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware, which I did, finding and removing 8
Trojans and other malware.

The heavy breathing, as I call the excessive CPU usage, seemed
less for awhile, though it may simply have slowed down because
it's an intermittent problem. Whatever, it's back again as much
as before. I've rerun Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware since noticing
the return of the heavy breathing, but found no trace of
malware.

During our earlier exchanges, Jerry recommended I download and
install Process Explorer to help troubleshoot any unwanted CPU
usage and that I post the command lines of the offending
programs. This I have done and include the command lines below:

C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunes.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\spoolsv.exe

I have two questions relating to all this:

1. Most importantly, how do I get rid of this excessive CPU
usage and keep
my computer from randomly slowing to crawl? When it hits iTunes,
the music just becomes static, and with spoolsv.exe it slows
draft printing to about 1 page every two minutes.

2. How do I use Process Explorer to diagnose unnecessary CPU
usage? The program just shows me a bunch of numbers and charts
meaning very little to me.
 
G

Gerry

Mark

Changing process priorities. There are cautions against doing this.

I think I must admit defeat.

Download and run HijackThis and post details to a specialist forum.
You may have to wait several days for a reply. Otherwise take
your computer to a small computer repair shop for cleaning. It's not
cheap.
http://us.trendmicro.com/us/product...vices/?WT.mc_id=2008HP_Home_FreeTools_9292008

http://www.aumha.org/a/hjttutor.php

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware
..
HijackThis Forums
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/forum22.html
http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30
Forums tend to have more reported problems than they can quickly resolve
so you need to be patient.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

As I said, I have two CPUs, both Pentium 4 running at 3 GHz, which
make up my ACPI Multiprocessor. I have 1 GB of RAM.

Also as I said, I get slowing down when I only have one program open.

When the computer is operating normally and not hogging CPU capacity,
the Commit Charges are as follows: Total (309 MB), Limit (2.5 GB) and
Peak (607 MB). I don't know what these values are when the computer
is hogging capacity, which it only does intermittently. I'll have to
check the values next time it happens -- I never know when that will
be -- and let you know.

Thanks for the info on how to change a program's priority. I changed
the priority of spoolsv.exe and iexplore.exe from Normal (8) to High
(13). We'll see if there's less abnormal CPU hogging and consequent
slowing down.

The reason I keep mentioning iexplore.exe and iTunes.exe is that the
slowing down that occurs with them seems the same kind of thing as
with spoolsv.exe, with the fan running at high speed, the CPU usage
jumping to around 50% from much lower, and of course everything
slowing to a crawl. Those three programs seem similarly affected.



Gerry said:
Mark

What is the CPU and how much RAM does your computer have? Right
click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties
to get this information.

The CPU capacity is not expressed in term of RAM. RAM =Random Access
Memory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPU

Graphics will take longer to print than text.

Open programmes are relevant as the queueing problem can go away on
my computer if I close programmes like my accounting package, Excel,
Word etc. I have observed the phenomenon many times. The problem can
be exacerbated by multi-tasking i.e. other programmes running in the
background. Some are visible in Task Manager but others are not.
Scheduled Tasks, like an anti-virus scan, can take resources and you
may not be conscious of this being in progress. Malware can also
conceal it's activities so that CPU usuge is not revealed in Task
Manager and Process Explorer.

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?

Is the computer left on 24/7?

I am conscious that I have not responded to your references to
Internet Explorer and iTines but try to tackle over many issues at
the same time takes away the focus from a particular problem. I have
been endeavouring the resolve the printer problem before moving on
to other issues.

Here's an explanation of spooling:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spooling

From Task Manager Help -search criteria "priority"

To change the priority of a running program
On the Processes tab, right-click the program you want to change,
point to Set Priority, and then click the command you want.
Notes
To view the priority of running programs, on the Processes tab, on
the View menu, click Select Columns. In the Select Columns dialog
box, select the Base Priority check box, and then click OK.
Changing the priority of a process can make it run faster or slower
(depending on whether you raise or lower the priority), but it can
also adversely affect the performance of other processes.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have apparently two Intel (R) Pentium (R) 4 3.0 GHz CPUs, my
computer being an ACPI Multiprocessor PC, according to the entries
in Device Manager. As far as actual CPU capacity, in terms of RAM or
whatever, I couldn't find that out. Though it seems like two fast
processors like that could do better than one page of text in draft
mode every two minutes.

I checked on Epson printer updates, and the only new one since I got
the printer is for scanning. There have been no new ones for
printing, which is where I have the slowing-down problem.

Let me note that the slowing down happens with either text or
graphics, and in the supposedly fastest mode, black-and-white draft.
Also it seems independent of the number of programs I have open,
happening even when I'm just printing something from the word
processor, with nothing else open.

I'd like to reiterate, though, that the slowing down does not happen
only while I'm printing. As I've said, it also happens when I'm in
Explorer and playing iTunes. In Explorer, everything slows to an
agonizing crawl; and in iTunes, the music breaks up into
unintelligible static. Concomitantly with these slowdowns, my CPU
usage goes to about 50% for these programs and the fan starts
working in overdrive. It's an intermittent problem, sometimes
interfering with these applications, and lasting a short while or
perhaps as much as 10 minutes, or until I force the overexerting
application to shut down.

Do you think somehow the computer is scanning for viruses when the
slowdown happens? You said spooling is not a priority service. Are
iexplore.exe and iTunes.exe priority services? Maybe I need to make
these three programs priority services, somehow, if that's possible.



:

Mark

What is your CPU capacity. What is your computer make and model? It
could be your CPU capacity is a system bottleneck.

Check you have the latest drivers for your Epson Stylus CX4800
http://snipurl.com/b1ra5 [www_epson_com]

Transferring data through a USB connections is slow. You do have a
USB
2.00 connection?

Printer spooling is not a priority service. When you see problems
are you printing text or graphics? It can help if you avoid having
too many programmes open when printing from certain programmes.

Choosing to print in black and white may help (page 5/05)
http://files.support.epson.com/pdf/cx48__/cx48__pg.pdf

Something I do not understand is the role of printer memory in
proceedings. You can increase printer memory for HP products. I
find no mention of it for an Epson. For my HP products additional
memory was an expensive addition I chose not to buy.

You might get more pointed advice on this issue in a printer
newsgroup.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Markkk wrote:
My printer is an Epson Stylus CX4800.

The StartUp Type is Automatic.

There are no yellow question marks in Device Manager.

In Event Viewer, there are no Application Errors or Warnings since
last year, but there are System Errors and Warnings from as
recently as Jan. 26, 2009. However, spoolsv.exe hogged CPU usage
at 50% twice this evening, but no Error or Warning messages were
displayed afterward in any Event Viewer category -- System,
Administrative, etc. So I don't think Event Viewer logs whatever
is causing the print slowdown. The last System and Application
Event Viewer entries are from this morning and show everything
fine.

As far as clearing the print queue goes, as I say, the whole print
operation slows to a crawl, drafts printing about 1 page every 2
minutes, so I believe the queue's clearing must slow
proportionally, though I haven't actually watched the queue
during the slowdowns, which occur only sporadically and
unpredictably.


:

Mark

What is your printer make and model?

Select Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services.
Locate the Print Spooler Service, right click, select
Properties. What is the StartUp Type? It should be Automatic.

Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right
click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select
Properties, Hardware, Device Manager. If yes what is the Device
Error code?

Are there any errors in Event Viewer?

Have a look in the System and Application logs in Event Viewer
for Errors and Warnings and post copies here. Don't post any
more than 48 hours ago.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the
meaning of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and
Description are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and
double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which
appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the button and
close Event Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste
into the body of the message. Make sure this is the first paste
after exiting from Event Viewer.

Does it take overlong to clear the print queue?



--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Markkk wrote:
Earlier this month, I conversed through this newsgroup with
Gerry about excessive CPU usage occurring occasionally when
running certain programs, including iexplore.exe, spoolsv.exe
and iTunes.exe. Jerry advised my downloading and running
Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware, which I did, finding and removing 8
Trojans and other malware.

The heavy breathing, as I call the excessive CPU usage, seemed
less for awhile, though it may simply have slowed down because
it's an intermittent problem. Whatever, it's back again as much
as before. I've rerun Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware since noticing
the return of the heavy breathing, but found no trace of
malware.

During our earlier exchanges, Jerry recommended I download and
install Process Explorer to help troubleshoot any unwanted CPU
usage and that I post the command lines of the offending
programs. This I have done and include the command lines below:

C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunes.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\spoolsv.exe

I have two questions relating to all this:

1. Most importantly, how do I get rid of this excessive CPU
usage and keep
my computer from randomly slowing to crawl? When it hits iTunes,
the music just becomes static, and with spoolsv.exe it slows
draft printing to about 1 page every two minutes.

2. How do I use Process Explorer to diagnose unnecessary CPU
usage? The program just shows me a bunch of numbers and charts
meaning very little to me.
 
M

Markkk

It's not printsv.exe but spoolsv.exe.

Gerry said:
Mark

Normally users do not post pictures to these newsgroups. Sometimes they
place them on web sitesand include a link in their post. That's the
limit of my knowledge on that question.

I tried enquiring about printsv.exe. The results were extremely meagre.
Are you using Microsoft Small Business Server 2003 or 2008?

--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~















A stroke of luck this afternoon allowed me to capture a picture of the
CPU-hogging in printsv.exe by using System Info in Process Explorer.
I also have a picture of normal printsv.exe operation under exactly
the same conditions, in terms of the programs open at the time, for
comparison purposes.

I'd like to post these pictures here to help with your
troubleshooting, but don't seem to be able to include jpegs, which
these are. Is there some way to do this?




Gerry said:
Mark

What is the CPU and how much RAM does your computer have? Right
click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties
to get this information.

The CPU capacity is not expressed in term of RAM. RAM =Random Access
Memory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPU

Graphics will take longer to print than text.

Open programmes are relevant as the queueing problem can go away on
my computer if I close programmes like my accounting package, Excel,
Word etc. I have observed the phenomenon many times. The problem can
be exacerbated by multi-tasking i.e. other programmes running in the
background. Some are visible in Task Manager but others are not.
Scheduled Tasks, like an anti-virus scan, can take resources and you
may not be conscious of this being in progress. Malware can also
conceal it's activities so that CPU usuge is not revealed in Task
Manager and Process Explorer.

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?

Is the computer left on 24/7?

I am conscious that I have not responded to your references to
Internet Explorer and iTines but try to tackle over many issues at
the same time takes away the focus from a particular problem. I have
been endeavouring the resolve the printer problem before moving on
to other issues.

Here's an explanation of spooling:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spooling

From Task Manager Help -search criteria "priority"

To change the priority of a running program
On the Processes tab, right-click the program you want to change,
point to Set Priority, and then click the command you want.
Notes
To view the priority of running programs, on the Processes tab, on
the View menu, click Select Columns. In the Select Columns dialog
box, select the Base Priority check box, and then click OK.
Changing the priority of a process can make it run faster or slower
(depending on whether you raise or lower the priority), but it can
also adversely affect the performance of other processes.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Markkk wrote:
I have apparently two Intel (R) Pentium (R) 4 3.0 GHz CPUs, my
computer being an ACPI Multiprocessor PC, according to the entries
in Device Manager. As far as actual CPU capacity, in terms of RAM or
whatever, I couldn't find that out. Though it seems like two fast
processors like that could do better than one page of text in draft
mode every two minutes.

I checked on Epson printer updates, and the only new one since I got
the printer is for scanning. There have been no new ones for
printing, which is where I have the slowing-down problem.

Let me note that the slowing down happens with either text or
graphics, and in the supposedly fastest mode, black-and-white draft.
Also it seems independent of the number of programs I have open,
happening even when I'm just printing something from the word
processor, with nothing else open.

I'd like to reiterate, though, that the slowing down does not happen
only while I'm printing. As I've said, it also happens when I'm in
Explorer and playing iTunes. In Explorer, everything slows to an
agonizing crawl; and in iTunes, the music breaks up into
unintelligible static. Concomitantly with these slowdowns, my CPU
usage goes to about 50% for these programs and the fan starts
working in overdrive. It's an intermittent problem, sometimes
interfering with these applications, and lasting a short while or
perhaps as much as 10 minutes, or until I force the overexerting
application to shut down.

Do you think somehow the computer is scanning for viruses when the
slowdown happens? You said spooling is not a priority service. Are
iexplore.exe and iTunes.exe priority services? Maybe I need to make
these three programs priority services, somehow, if that's possible.



:

Mark

What is your CPU capacity. What is your computer make and model? It
could be your CPU capacity is a system bottleneck.

Check you have the latest drivers for your Epson Stylus CX4800
http://snipurl.com/b1ra5 [www_epson_com]

Transferring data through a USB connections is slow. You do have a
USB
2.00 connection?

Printer spooling is not a priority service. When you see problems
are you printing text or graphics? It can help if you avoid having
too many programmes open when printing from certain programmes.

Choosing to print in black and white may help (page 5/05)
http://files.support.epson.com/pdf/cx48__/cx48__pg.pdf

Something I do not understand is the role of printer memory in
proceedings. You can increase printer memory for HP products. I
find no mention of it for an Epson. For my HP products additional
memory was an expensive addition I chose not to buy.

You might get more pointed advice on this issue in a printer
newsgroup.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Markkk wrote:
My printer is an Epson Stylus CX4800.

The StartUp Type is Automatic.

There are no yellow question marks in Device Manager.

In Event Viewer, there are no Application Errors or Warnings since
last year, but there are System Errors and Warnings from as
recently as Jan. 26, 2009. However, spoolsv.exe hogged CPU usage
at 50% twice this evening, but no Error or Warning messages were
displayed afterward in any Event Viewer category -- System,
Administrative, etc. So I don't think Event Viewer logs whatever
is causing the print slowdown. The last System and Application
Event Viewer entries are from this morning and show everything
fine.

As far as clearing the print queue goes, as I say, the whole print
operation slows to a crawl, drafts printing about 1 page every 2
minutes, so I believe the queue's clearing must slow
proportionally, though I haven't actually watched the queue
during the slowdowns, which occur only sporadically and
unpredictably.


:

Mark

What is your printer make and model?

Select Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services.
Locate the Print Spooler Service, right click, select
Properties. What is the StartUp Type? It should be Automatic.

Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right
click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select
Properties, Hardware, Device Manager. If yes what is the Device
Error code?

Are there any errors in Event Viewer?

Have a look in the System and Application logs in Event Viewer
for Errors and Warnings and post copies here. Don't post any
more than 48 hours ago.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the
meaning of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and
Description are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and
double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which
appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the button and
close Event Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste
into the body of the message. Make sure this is the first paste
after exiting from Event Viewer.

Does it take overlong to clear the print queue?



--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Markkk wrote:
Earlier this month, I conversed through this newsgroup with
Gerry about excessive CPU usage occurring occasionally when
running certain programs, including iexplore.exe, spoolsv.exe
and iTunes.exe. Jerry advised my downloading and running
Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware, which I did, finding and removing 8
Trojans and other malware.

The heavy breathing, as I call the excessive CPU usage, seemed
less for awhile, though it may simply have slowed down because
it's an intermittent problem. Whatever, it's back again as much
as before. I've rerun Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware since noticing
the return of the heavy breathing, but found no trace of
malware.

During our earlier exchanges, Jerry recommended I download and
install Process Explorer to help troubleshoot any unwanted CPU
usage and that I post the command lines of the offending
programs. This I have done and include the command lines below:

C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunes.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\spoolsv.exe

I have two questions relating to all this:

1. Most importantly, how do I get rid of this excessive CPU
usage and keep
my computer from randomly slowing to crawl? When it hits iTunes,
the music just becomes static, and with spoolsv.exe it slows
 
G

Gerry

Mark

Well that helps. You added another mystery when you referred to
printsv.exe as being in your picture <G>.

--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It's not printsv.exe but spoolsv.exe.

Gerry said:
Mark

Normally users do not post pictures to these newsgroups. Sometimes
they place them on web sitesand include a link in their post. That's
the limit of my knowledge on that question.

I tried enquiring about printsv.exe. The results were extremely
meagre. Are you using Microsoft Small Business Server 2003 or 2008?

--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~















A stroke of luck this afternoon allowed me to capture a picture of
the CPU-hogging in printsv.exe by using System Info in Process
Explorer. I also have a picture of normal printsv.exe operation
under exactly the same conditions, in terms of the programs open at
the time, for comparison purposes.

I'd like to post these pictures here to help with your
troubleshooting, but don't seem to be able to include jpegs, which
these are. Is there some way to do this?




:

Mark

What is the CPU and how much RAM does your computer have? Right
click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties
to get this information.

The CPU capacity is not expressed in term of RAM. RAM =Random
Access Memory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPU

Graphics will take longer to print than text.

Open programmes are relevant as the queueing problem can go away on
my computer if I close programmes like my accounting package,
Excel, Word etc. I have observed the phenomenon many times. The
problem can be exacerbated by multi-tasking i.e. other programmes
running in the background. Some are visible in Task Manager but
others are not. Scheduled Tasks, like an anti-virus scan, can take
resources and you may not be conscious of this being in progress.
Malware can also conceal it's activities so that CPU usuge is not
revealed in Task Manager and Process Explorer.

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the
Performance Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit
and the Peak?

Is the computer left on 24/7?

I am conscious that I have not responded to your references to
Internet Explorer and iTines but try to tackle over many issues at
the same time takes away the focus from a particular problem. I
have been endeavouring the resolve the printer problem before
moving on to other issues.

Here's an explanation of spooling:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spooling

From Task Manager Help -search criteria "priority"

To change the priority of a running program
On the Processes tab, right-click the program you want to change,
point to Set Priority, and then click the command you want.
Notes
To view the priority of running programs, on the Processes tab, on
the View menu, click Select Columns. In the Select Columns dialog
box, select the Base Priority check box, and then click OK.
Changing the priority of a process can make it run faster or slower
(depending on whether you raise or lower the priority), but it can
also adversely affect the performance of other processes.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Markkk wrote:
I have apparently two Intel (R) Pentium (R) 4 3.0 GHz CPUs, my
computer being an ACPI Multiprocessor PC, according to the entries
in Device Manager. As far as actual CPU capacity, in terms of RAM
or whatever, I couldn't find that out. Though it seems like two
fast processors like that could do better than one page of text
in draft mode every two minutes.

I checked on Epson printer updates, and the only new one since I
got the printer is for scanning. There have been no new ones for
printing, which is where I have the slowing-down problem.

Let me note that the slowing down happens with either text or
graphics, and in the supposedly fastest mode, black-and-white
draft. Also it seems independent of the number of programs I have
open, happening even when I'm just printing something from the
word processor, with nothing else open.

I'd like to reiterate, though, that the slowing down does not
happen only while I'm printing. As I've said, it also happens
when I'm in Explorer and playing iTunes. In Explorer, everything
slows to an agonizing crawl; and in iTunes, the music breaks up
into unintelligible static. Concomitantly with these slowdowns,
my CPU usage goes to about 50% for these programs and the fan
starts working in overdrive. It's an intermittent problem,
sometimes interfering with these applications, and lasting a
short while or perhaps as much as 10 minutes, or until I force
the overexerting application to shut down.

Do you think somehow the computer is scanning for viruses when the
slowdown happens? You said spooling is not a priority service. Are
iexplore.exe and iTunes.exe priority services? Maybe I need to
make these three programs priority services, somehow, if that's
possible.



:

Mark

What is your CPU capacity. What is your computer make and model?
It could be your CPU capacity is a system bottleneck.

Check you have the latest drivers for your Epson Stylus CX4800
http://snipurl.com/b1ra5 [www_epson_com]

Transferring data through a USB connections is slow. You do have
a USB
2.00 connection?

Printer spooling is not a priority service. When you see problems
are you printing text or graphics? It can help if you avoid
having too many programmes open when printing from certain
programmes.

Choosing to print in black and white may help (page 5/05)
http://files.support.epson.com/pdf/cx48__/cx48__pg.pdf

Something I do not understand is the role of printer memory in
proceedings. You can increase printer memory for HP products. I
find no mention of it for an Epson. For my HP products additional
memory was an expensive addition I chose not to buy.

You might get more pointed advice on this issue in a printer
newsgroup.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Markkk wrote:
My printer is an Epson Stylus CX4800.

The StartUp Type is Automatic.

There are no yellow question marks in Device Manager.

In Event Viewer, there are no Application Errors or Warnings
since last year, but there are System Errors and Warnings from
as recently as Jan. 26, 2009. However, spoolsv.exe hogged CPU
usage at 50% twice this evening, but no Error or Warning
messages were displayed afterward in any Event Viewer category
-- System, Administrative, etc. So I don't think Event Viewer
logs whatever is causing the print slowdown. The last System
and Application Event Viewer entries are from this morning and
show everything fine.

As far as clearing the print queue goes, as I say, the whole
print operation slows to a crawl, drafts printing about 1 page
every 2 minutes, so I believe the queue's clearing must slow
proportionally, though I haven't actually watched the queue
during the slowdowns, which occur only sporadically and
unpredictably.


:

Mark

What is your printer make and model?

Select Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services.
Locate the Print Spooler Service, right click, select
Properties. What is the StartUp Type? It should be Automatic.

Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right
click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select
Properties, Hardware, Device Manager. If yes what is the Device
Error code?

Are there any errors in Event Viewer?

Have a look in the System and Application logs in Event Viewer
for Errors and Warnings and post copies here. Don't post any
more than 48 hours ago.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the
meaning of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source
and Description are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows
XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and
double click on the error you want to copy. In the window,
which appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the
button and close Event Viewer.Now start your message (email)
and do a paste into the body of the message. Make sure this is
the first paste after exiting from Event Viewer.

Does it take overlong to clear the print queue?



--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Markkk wrote:
Earlier this month, I conversed through this newsgroup with
Gerry about excessive CPU usage occurring occasionally when
running certain programs, including iexplore.exe, spoolsv.exe
and iTunes.exe. Jerry advised my downloading and running
Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware, which I did, finding and removing
8 Trojans and other malware.

The heavy breathing, as I call the excessive CPU usage, seemed
less for awhile, though it may simply have slowed down because
it's an intermittent problem. Whatever, it's back again as
much as before. I've rerun Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware since
noticing the return of the heavy breathing, but found no
trace of malware.

During our earlier exchanges, Jerry recommended I download and
install Process Explorer to help troubleshoot any unwanted CPU
usage and that I post the command lines of the offending
programs. This I have done and include the command lines
below:

C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunes.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\spoolsv.exe

I have two questions relating to all this:

1. Most importantly, how do I get rid of this excessive CPU
usage and keep
my computer from randomly slowing to crawl? When it hits
iTunes, the music just becomes static, and with spoolsv.exe
it slows
 
M

Markkk

Sorry. It’s complex enough. I downloaded HijackThis and ran a scan with it,
and will post the results on bleepingcomputer.com as soon as I set up an
account. So we’ll see. Thanks for your help. If nothing else, I learned a
little more about the computer.

- Mark

Gerry said:
Mark

Well that helps. You added another mystery when you referred to
printsv.exe as being in your picture <G>.

--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It's not printsv.exe but spoolsv.exe.

Gerry said:
Mark

Normally users do not post pictures to these newsgroups. Sometimes
they place them on web sitesand include a link in their post. That's
the limit of my knowledge on that question.

I tried enquiring about printsv.exe. The results were extremely
meagre. Are you using Microsoft Small Business Server 2003 or 2008?

--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
















MarkMarkkk wrote:
A stroke of luck this afternoon allowed me to capture a picture of
the CPU-hogging in printsv.exe by using System Info in Process
Explorer. I also have a picture of normal printsv.exe operation
under exactly the same conditions, in terms of the programs open at
the time, for comparison purposes.

I'd like to post these pictures here to help with your
troubleshooting, but don't seem to be able to include jpegs, which
these are. Is there some way to do this?




:

Mark

What is the CPU and how much RAM does your computer have? Right
click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties
to get this information.

The CPU capacity is not expressed in term of RAM. RAM =Random
Access Memory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPU

Graphics will take longer to print than text.

Open programmes are relevant as the queueing problem can go away on
my computer if I close programmes like my accounting package,
Excel, Word etc. I have observed the phenomenon many times. The
problem can be exacerbated by multi-tasking i.e. other programmes
running in the background. Some are visible in Task Manager but
others are not. Scheduled Tasks, like an anti-virus scan, can take
resources and you may not be conscious of this being in progress.
Malware can also conceal it's activities so that CPU usuge is not
revealed in Task Manager and Process Explorer.

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the
Performance Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit
and the Peak?

Is the computer left on 24/7?

I am conscious that I have not responded to your references to
Internet Explorer and iTines but try to tackle over many issues at
the same time takes away the focus from a particular problem. I
have been endeavouring the resolve the printer problem before
moving on to other issues.

Here's an explanation of spooling:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spooling

From Task Manager Help -search criteria "priority"

To change the priority of a running program
On the Processes tab, right-click the program you want to change,
point to Set Priority, and then click the command you want.
Notes
To view the priority of running programs, on the Processes tab, on
the View menu, click Select Columns. In the Select Columns dialog
box, select the Base Priority check box, and then click OK.
Changing the priority of a process can make it run faster or slower
(depending on whether you raise or lower the priority), but it can
also adversely affect the performance of other processes.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Markkk wrote:
I have apparently two Intel (R) Pentium (R) 4 3.0 GHz CPUs, my
computer being an ACPI Multiprocessor PC, according to the entries
in Device Manager. As far as actual CPU capacity, in terms of RAM
or whatever, I couldn't find that out. Though it seems like two
fast processors like that could do better than one page of text
in draft mode every two minutes.

I checked on Epson printer updates, and the only new one since I
got the printer is for scanning. There have been no new ones for
printing, which is where I have the slowing-down problem.

Let me note that the slowing down happens with either text or
graphics, and in the supposedly fastest mode, black-and-white
draft. Also it seems independent of the number of programs I have
open, happening even when I'm just printing something from the
word processor, with nothing else open.

I'd like to reiterate, though, that the slowing down does not
happen only while I'm printing. As I've said, it also happens
when I'm in Explorer and playing iTunes. In Explorer, everything
slows to an agonizing crawl; and in iTunes, the music breaks up
into unintelligible static. Concomitantly with these slowdowns,
my CPU usage goes to about 50% for these programs and the fan
starts working in overdrive. It's an intermittent problem,
sometimes interfering with these applications, and lasting a
short while or perhaps as much as 10 minutes, or until I force
the overexerting application to shut down.

Do you think somehow the computer is scanning for viruses when the
slowdown happens? You said spooling is not a priority service. Are
iexplore.exe and iTunes.exe priority services? Maybe I need to
make these three programs priority services, somehow, if that's
possible.



:

Mark

What is your CPU capacity. What is your computer make and model?
It could be your CPU capacity is a system bottleneck.

Check you have the latest drivers for your Epson Stylus CX4800
http://snipurl.com/b1ra5 [www_epson_com]

Transferring data through a USB connections is slow. You do have
a USB
2.00 connection?

Printer spooling is not a priority service. When you see problems
are you printing text or graphics? It can help if you avoid
having too many programmes open when printing from certain
programmes.

Choosing to print in black and white may help (page 5/05)
http://files.support.epson.com/pdf/cx48__/cx48__pg.pdf

Something I do not understand is the role of printer memory in
proceedings. You can increase printer memory for HP products. I
find no mention of it for an Epson. For my HP products additional
memory was an expensive addition I chose not to buy.

You might get more pointed advice on this issue in a printer
newsgroup.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Markkk wrote:
My printer is an Epson Stylus CX4800.

The StartUp Type is Automatic.

There are no yellow question marks in Device Manager.

In Event Viewer, there are no Application Errors or Warnings
since last year, but there are System Errors and Warnings from
as recently as Jan. 26, 2009. However, spoolsv.exe hogged CPU
usage at 50% twice this evening, but no Error or Warning
messages were displayed afterward in any Event Viewer category
-- System, Administrative, etc. So I don't think Event Viewer
logs whatever is causing the print slowdown. The last System
and Application Event Viewer entries are from this morning and
show everything fine.

As far as clearing the print queue goes, as I say, the whole
print operation slows to a crawl, drafts printing about 1 page
every 2 minutes, so I believe the queue's clearing must slow
proportionally, though I haven't actually watched the queue
during the slowdowns, which occur only sporadically and
unpredictably.


:

Mark

What is your printer make and model?

Select Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services.
Locate the Print Spooler Service, right click, select
Properties. What is the StartUp Type? It should be Automatic.

Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right
click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select
Properties, Hardware, Device Manager. If yes what is the Device
Error code?

Are there any errors in Event Viewer?

Have a look in the System and Application logs in Event Viewer
for Errors and Warnings and post copies here. Don't post any
more than 48 hours ago.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the
meaning of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source
and Description are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows
XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and
double click on the error you want to copy. In the window,
which appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the
button and close Event Viewer.Now start your message (email)
and do a paste into the body of the message. Make sure this is
the first paste after exiting from Event Viewer.

Does it take overlong to clear the print queue?



--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Markkk wrote:
Earlier this month, I conversed through this newsgroup with
Gerry about excessive CPU usage occurring occasionally when
running certain programs, including iexplore.exe, spoolsv.exe
and iTunes.exe. Jerry advised my downloading and running
 
G

Gerry

Mark


Please let me know the subject and the user name you post as in Bleeping
Computer.


--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Markkk said:
Sorry. It's complex enough. I downloaded HijackThis and ran a scan
with it, and will post the results on bleepingcomputer.com as soon as
I set up an account. So we'll see. Thanks for your help. If nothing
else, I learned a little more about the computer.

- Mark

Gerry said:
Mark

Well that helps. You added another mystery when you referred to
printsv.exe as being in your picture <G>.

--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It's not printsv.exe but spoolsv.exe.

:


Mark

Normally users do not post pictures to these newsgroups. Sometimes
they place them on web sitesand include a link in their post.
That's the limit of my knowledge on that question.

I tried enquiring about printsv.exe. The results were extremely
meagre. Are you using Microsoft Small Business Server 2003 or 2008?

--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
















MarkMarkkk wrote:
A stroke of luck this afternoon allowed me to capture a picture of
the CPU-hogging in printsv.exe by using System Info in Process
Explorer. I also have a picture of normal printsv.exe operation
under exactly the same conditions, in terms of the programs open
at the time, for comparison purposes.

I'd like to post these pictures here to help with your
troubleshooting, but don't seem to be able to include jpegs, which
these are. Is there some way to do this?




:

Mark

What is the CPU and how much RAM does your computer have? Right
click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select
Properties to get this information.

The CPU capacity is not expressed in term of RAM. RAM =Random
Access Memory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPU

Graphics will take longer to print than text.

Open programmes are relevant as the queueing problem can go away
on my computer if I close programmes like my accounting package,
Excel, Word etc. I have observed the phenomenon many times. The
problem can be exacerbated by multi-tasking i.e. other programmes
running in the background. Some are visible in Task Manager but
others are not. Scheduled Tasks, like an anti-virus scan, can
take resources and you may not be conscious of this being in
progress. Malware can also conceal it's activities so that CPU
usuge is not revealed in Task Manager and Process Explorer.

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the
Performance Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit
and the Peak?

Is the computer left on 24/7?

I am conscious that I have not responded to your references to
Internet Explorer and iTines but try to tackle over many issues
at the same time takes away the focus from a particular problem.
I have been endeavouring the resolve the printer problem before
moving on to other issues.

Here's an explanation of spooling:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spooling

From Task Manager Help -search criteria "priority"

To change the priority of a running program
On the Processes tab, right-click the program you want to change,
point to Set Priority, and then click the command you want.
Notes
To view the priority of running programs, on the Processes tab,
on the View menu, click Select Columns. In the Select Columns
dialog box, select the Base Priority check box, and then click
OK. Changing the priority of a process can make it run faster or
slower (depending on whether you raise or lower the priority),
but it can also adversely affect the performance of other
processes.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Markkk wrote:
I have apparently two Intel (R) Pentium (R) 4 3.0 GHz CPUs, my
computer being an ACPI Multiprocessor PC, according to the
entries in Device Manager. As far as actual CPU capacity, in
terms of RAM or whatever, I couldn't find that out. Though it
seems like two fast processors like that could do better than
one page of text in draft mode every two minutes.

I checked on Epson printer updates, and the only new one since I
got the printer is for scanning. There have been no new ones for
printing, which is where I have the slowing-down problem.

Let me note that the slowing down happens with either text or
graphics, and in the supposedly fastest mode, black-and-white
draft. Also it seems independent of the number of programs I
have open, happening even when I'm just printing something from
the word processor, with nothing else open.

I'd like to reiterate, though, that the slowing down does not
happen only while I'm printing. As I've said, it also happens
when I'm in Explorer and playing iTunes. In Explorer, everything
slows to an agonizing crawl; and in iTunes, the music breaks up
into unintelligible static. Concomitantly with these slowdowns,
my CPU usage goes to about 50% for these programs and the fan
starts working in overdrive. It's an intermittent problem,
sometimes interfering with these applications, and lasting a
short while or perhaps as much as 10 minutes, or until I force
the overexerting application to shut down.

Do you think somehow the computer is scanning for viruses when
the slowdown happens? You said spooling is not a priority
service. Are iexplore.exe and iTunes.exe priority services?
Maybe I need to make these three programs priority services,
somehow, if that's possible.



:

Mark

What is your CPU capacity. What is your computer make and
model? It could be your CPU capacity is a system bottleneck.

Check you have the latest drivers for your Epson Stylus CX4800
http://snipurl.com/b1ra5 [www_epson_com]

Transferring data through a USB connections is slow. You do
have a USB
2.00 connection?

Printer spooling is not a priority service. When you see
problems are you printing text or graphics? It can help if you
avoid having too many programmes open when printing from
certain programmes.

Choosing to print in black and white may help (page 5/05)
http://files.support.epson.com/pdf/cx48__/cx48__pg.pdf

Something I do not understand is the role of printer memory in
proceedings. You can increase printer memory for HP products. I
find no mention of it for an Epson. For my HP products
additional memory was an expensive addition I chose not to buy.

You might get more pointed advice on this issue in a printer
newsgroup.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Markkk wrote:
My printer is an Epson Stylus CX4800.

The StartUp Type is Automatic.

There are no yellow question marks in Device Manager.

In Event Viewer, there are no Application Errors or Warnings
since last year, but there are System Errors and Warnings from
as recently as Jan. 26, 2009. However, spoolsv.exe hogged CPU
usage at 50% twice this evening, but no Error or Warning
messages were displayed afterward in any Event Viewer category
-- System, Administrative, etc. So I don't think Event Viewer
logs whatever is causing the print slowdown. The last System
and Application Event Viewer entries are from this morning and
show everything fine.

As far as clearing the print queue goes, as I say, the whole
print operation slows to a crawl, drafts printing about 1 page
every 2 minutes, so I believe the queue's clearing must slow
proportionally, though I haven't actually watched the queue
during the slowdowns, which occur only sporadically and
unpredictably.


:

Mark

What is your printer make and model?

Select Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services.
Locate the Print Spooler Service, right click, select
Properties. What is the StartUp Type? It should be Automatic.

Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right
click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select
Properties, Hardware, Device Manager. If yes what is the
Device Error code?

Are there any errors in Event Viewer?

Have a look in the System and Application logs in Event
Viewer for Errors and Warnings and post copies here. Don't
post any more than 48 hours ago.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control
Panel, Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When
researching the meaning of the error, information regarding
Event ID, Source and Description are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows
XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer
and double click on the error you want to copy. In the
window, which appears is a button resembling two pages.
Click the button and close Event Viewer.Now start your
message (email) and do a paste into the body of the message.
Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event
Viewer.

Does it take overlong to clear the print queue?



--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Markkk wrote:
Earlier this month, I conversed through this newsgroup with
Gerry about excessive CPU usage occurring occasionally when
running certain programs, including iexplore.exe,
spoolsv.exe and iTunes.exe. Jerry advised my downloading
and running
 

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