Windows Explorer - crashes when deleting/copying files

J

JanR

My Windows Explorer (Windows XP Pro) keeps crashing when either deleting
files (any type e.g. .doc files), or copying files. It is erratic in that I
can delete 3 files, and then on the 4th it crashes. I have checked for
viruses/spyware etc, and have repaired Windows in case of corruption, but it
is still doing it. PC is 2 years old (Dell). Any suggestions? Thanks.
Jan
 
B

Bob I

In My computer, r-click the "C" drive and then select Properties, Tools,
Check now.
 
J

JanR

Thank you for this, Bob. It's taken an hour or so to do (and I didn't know
about that checking feature, so that was very helpful), and it is all
apparently clear. The system rebooted but the first file I tried to delete
caused it to crash out again (it is only Windows Explorer that suddenly
closes, not the whole PC). Clearly something is corrupt, but what and how I
don't know. Do you have any other suggestions? Thank you.
 
B

Bob I

Did it give any error messages during CHKDSK? Perhaps determine the
drive manufacturer and then get the drive diagnostic from their web site
and check the drive for other problems?
 
J

JanR

Hi
No, it gave no error messages, but I will use the drive diagnostic test and
see what happens. This will have to be tomorrow now, but thank you anyway.
 
G

Gerry

Jan

How are you selecting / accessing the delete or copy commands? Please
describe.

How is your problem recorded in the Event Viewer logs. Can you please
post a complete copy of the Report.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer.

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.

How large is your hard drive and how much free disk space? Is the drive
partitioned?

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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J

JanR

Gerry, Thank you for your comments and for the clarity of how to get the
eventviewer message. Sorry this is a long message.

I can either select delete/copy etc via the keyboard, or via right mouse
click. Both have the same problem. Sometimes, the menu, though, seems OK.
I must stress that this is intermittent - sometimes I can delete a file, and
then the next one I want to delete causes explorer to bomb out, sometimes, it
is the first time I use it that it crashes.

I have looked at Event Viewer, and to be honest it gets 'curiouser and
curiouser'. The only warning 'events' are when the system apparently tries
to use Microsoft fax. Well, I would never use that because a) I have a
separate fax machine, and b) I rarely send faxes, and certainly not in the
last few weeks. Clearly there is some type of conflict giving this erroneous
message, which presumably occurs when Explorer crashes. Message below (as No
1).

However, there are dozens of other events described as Information, and
Winlogon, and I will attach the message below the MS fax one, in case that
helps too. I have just tried to delete 2 different files, and they both come
up with the Winlogon event message (listed as No 2 below).

In addition, I have a few error messages (though the timing of these doesn't
appear to relate to the specific explorer error and certainly not enough of
them in relation to the frequency of the crashes (see No 3 below)

I have 80Gb hard disk, 23GB free space; RAM = 3GB

Hopefully, something will provide a clue. Thanks v. much. Jan
1. MS Fax event message
___________________
Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Microsoft Fax
Event Category: Initialization/Termination
Event ID: 32068
Date: 04/03/2008
Time: 16:03:04
User: N/A
Computer: PC-JAN
Description:
The outgoing routing rule is not valid because it cannot find a valid
device. The outgoing faxes that use this rule will not be routed. Verify that
the targeted device or devices (if routed to a group of devices) is connected
and installed correctly, and turned on. If routed to a group, verify that the
group is configured correctly. Country/region code: '*' Area code: '*'

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
_______________________________
2. Information, Winlogon message

Event Type: Information
Event Source: Winlogon
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1002
Date: 05/03/2008
Time: 09:10:43
User: N/A
Computer: PC-JAN
Description:
The shell stopped unexpectedly and Explorer.exe was restarted.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
___________________________________
Message No 3 (Error message, but rare)
Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: (100)
Event ID: 1000
Date: 05/03/2008
Time: 09:01:11
User: N/A
Computer: PC-JAN
Description:
Faulting application explorer.exe, version 6.0.2900.2180, faulting module
unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x02a12dc4.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 46 61 69 6c ion Fail
0010: 75 72 65 20 20 65 78 70 ure exp
0018: 6c 6f 72 65 72 2e 65 78 lorer.ex
0020: 65 20 36 2e 30 2e 32 39 e 6.0.29
0028: 30 30 2e 32 31 38 30 20 00.2180
0030: 69 6e 20 75 6e 6b 6e 6f in unkno
0038: 77 6e 20 30 2e 30 2e 30 wn 0.0.0
0040: 2e 30 20 61 74 20 6f 66 .0 at of
0048: 66 73 65 74 20 30 32 61 fset 02a
0050: 31 32 64 63 34 12dc4
_____________________
 
B

Bob I

You're welcome, sounds like you installed something that interfered with
the context menu.
 
J

Jose

Bob, thanks for replying. I found the solution elsewhere - here it is:

To try and find if a 3rd party shell extension is causing your Windows
Explorer to crash on certain actions, you'll need to download this handy
(and free) utility: ShelExView
(http://www.snapfiles.com/get/shellexview.html). It will let you view &
disable shell extensions.

After you downloaded & executed it, ShelExView will show all shell
extensions installed on your system. You could sort the entries so that
you'll have all non  shell extensions grouped together. Next, select all
these non Microsoft shell extensions, and disable them. Try the sequence
that would previously have resulted in Windows Explorer crashing (for
example browsing a folder, or right-clicking a file). If no crash
occurred, one of the shell extensions you disabled has been causing the
crash. To find out which one, start enabling one shell extension at a
time, each time testing to make sure you can still use Windows Explorer
without it crashing, until you find the shell extension that would cause
Windows Explorer to crash.

ShelExView gives you all additional information you need to know such
as the product & company name of the shell extension, as well as the
version number. If you would like to continue using the  of the 3rd
party whose shell extension is causing the Explorer crash, contact the
company responsible, and check to see if there is an updated version of
the software you are trying to use.

Cheers, bflay1

What was the extension that you think caused the problem and did you
get an update for it?
 

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