Windows 98 not liking devices on an Asus P2B-F M.B.

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Dave Rudolf

Hey all,

I'm trying to resurrect an old machine with an Asus P2B-F motherboard. The
board seems to work fine at boot time -- detects all drives and devices.
However, when I install Windows 98 SE, the OS can't seem to figure out some
of the devices that are attached to it. For one, I have a PCI network card
(a StarTech ST100S). When I try to tell Windows what driver to use (The
Realtek PCI one that comes with Win98SE), it leaves the question mark icon
on it in the Device Manager, and no network functionality works.

Similarly, I have an AGP video card (a Creative Graphics Blaster card with
an Nvidia TNT2 chip on it). When I install Nvidia's latest drivers, it says
that no Nvidia products are installed on that machine. I'd love to try
Creative's drivers, if anyone knows where I can find a copy of them.

The one device that does work is a PCI sound card (a Sound Blaster AWE 64).
Other than that, the machine is equipped with a P3 chip and 2 DIMMs of 256MB
PC133 RAM. I've tried moving the network card to different PCI slots, and
that makes no difference. So, does anyone have any idea as to why Windows
doesn't like the devices, or have any suggestions on things to try?

Thanks.

Dave
 
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David Maynard

Dave said:
Hey all,

I'm trying to resurrect an old machine with an Asus P2B-F motherboard. The
board seems to work fine at boot time -- detects all drives and devices.
However, when I install Windows 98 SE, the OS can't seem to figure out some
of the devices that are attached to it. For one, I have a PCI network card
(a StarTech ST100S). When I try to tell Windows what driver to use (The
Realtek PCI one that comes with Win98SE), it leaves the question mark icon
on it in the Device Manager, and no network functionality works.

Similarly, I have an AGP video card (a Creative Graphics Blaster card with
an Nvidia TNT2 chip on it). When I install Nvidia's latest drivers, it says
that no Nvidia products are installed on that machine. I'd love to try
Creative's drivers, if anyone knows where I can find a copy of them.

The one device that does work is a PCI sound card (a Sound Blaster AWE 64).
Other than that, the machine is equipped with a P3 chip and 2 DIMMs of 256MB
PC133 RAM. I've tried moving the network card to different PCI slots, and
that makes no difference. So, does anyone have any idea as to why Windows
doesn't like the devices, or have any suggestions on things to try?

Thanks.

Dave
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Sounds like you haven't installed the motherboard drivers so it doesn't
know there are things like a PCI bus.

Go to the Asus site and download "Intel Chipset Software Installation Utility."
 
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Dave Rudolf

Thanks,

That got the network card going. Now I still can't get the TNT2 going.

Dave
 
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Dave Rudolf

David Maynard said:
Sounds like you haven't installed the motherboard drivers so it doesn't
know there are things like a PCI bus.

Go to the Asus site and download "Intel Chipset Software Installation
Utility."
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I tried the chipset utility. Windows did detect a pile of buses and things
like that. But I still can't get the TNT2 going. NVidia's install program
still can't detect the card. I tried flipping the AGP jumper on the M.B.,
and that had no effect. Any other ideas on that?

Thanks.

Dave
 
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David Maynard

Dave said:
I tried the chipset utility. Windows did detect a pile of buses and things
like that. But I still can't get the TNT2 going. NVidia's install program
still can't detect the card. I tried flipping the AGP jumper on the M.B.,
and that had no effect. Any other ideas on that?

Thanks.

Dave
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Try removing it in device manager, reboot, and let it redetect.

Nvidia is also picky about it being 'standard VGA' when you try the
install. Although sometimes it doesn't like 'standard VGA' either.

Also try removing the card and reseating it.
 
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Peter

Try removing it in device manager, reboot, and let it redetect.
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I would also recommend 'safe mode' when removing from device manager.
You may find other display adapters still listed that you were not aware
of.
 
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David Maynard

Peter said:
I would also recommend 'safe mode' when removing from device manager.
You may find other display adapters still listed that you were not aware
of.
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Good point and good idea.
 
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old jon

Download CREATIVE Graphics Board drivers. ... Creative Graphics Cards
Driver Update 41.80 for Nvidia based cards. Graphics Board / CREATIVE | 11.8
MB | Win ...
drivers.softpedia.com/catRedir/GRAPHICS-BOARD/CREATIVE
bw..OJ
 
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Dave Rudolf

old jon said:
Download CREATIVE Graphics Board drivers. ... Creative Graphics Cards
Driver Update 41.80 for Nvidia based cards. Graphics Board / CREATIVE |
11.8 MB | Win ...
drivers.softpedia.com/catRedir/GRAPHICS-BOARD/CREATIVE
bw..OJ
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Hmm... Both mirrors for that file give me a 404, even though the site says
that the links are active when I try to report the dead links. Does anyone
have this driver handy, or can perhaps send me an ISO of the original
Creative driver CD or something like that?

Thanks.

Dave
 
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Dave Rudolf

I would also recommend 'safe mode' when removing from device manager.
You may find other display adapters still listed that you were not aware
of.
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Thanks for the idea. The Device Manager only had the one display adapter.
When I remove it and reboot, and Windows detects it as a "Standard PCI
Graphics Adapter (VGA)". The "PCI " part of it worries me, as the card is
AGP. Again, the Nvidia setup program says it can't find an Nvidia product
installed. I'm using the 77.72_win9x_english drivers, so it's not like I
have the wrong setup program. I even tried unzipping the setup EXE file and
manually pointing the Device Manager to the NVAGP.INF file in that archive.
It ignores that file and reverts back to the "Standard PCI..." driver.

Yup, tried that a few times.

Any other ideas?

Dave
 
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David Maynard

Dave said:
Thanks for the idea. The Device Manager only had the one display adapter.
When I remove it and reboot, and Windows detects it as a "Standard PCI
Graphics Adapter (VGA)". The "PCI " part of it worries me, as the card is
AGP. Again, the Nvidia setup program says it can't find an Nvidia product
installed. I'm using the 77.72_win9x_english drivers, so it's not like I
have the wrong setup program. I even tried unzipping the setup EXE file and
manually pointing the Device Manager to the NVAGP.INF file in that archive.
It ignores that file and reverts back to the "Standard PCI..." driver.




Yup, tried that a few times.

Any other ideas?

Dave
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Go into Device Manager and see if the AGP port is there under system
devices and working.
 
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news.sasktel.net

Probably referred to as chipset drivers. Sometimes VIA or NVIDIA,
but in your case probably Intel.

Searching Yahoo for "Intel 440BX chipset drivers"

If that is the correct chipset, try looking here for the drivers:

http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets/sb/cs-009195.htm
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Thanks. After installing that, I now have an "Intel 82443BX Pentium II
Processor to AGP controller". The chip that I have is a Pentium 3. Not sure
if that matters. At any rate, it still detects the video card as a "Standard
PCI..." adapter, and teh NVidia driver installer still doesn't detect it.
 
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Dave Rudolf

Go into Device Manager and see if the AGP port is there under system
devices and working.
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Actually, no, there is not. How would I get Windows to detect it?

Dave
 
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Dave Rudolf

John Doe said:
Windows is not going to detect your video card.
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Yes, I realise that. I just wasn't sure if the fact that it was detecting a
"PCI" adapter was part of the problem.
What is the exact make and model of your video card?
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Creative 3D Blaster TNT2
Have you tried Creative Labs automatic update?
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According to Creative's site, their auto-update does not support this card.
 
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Dave Rudolf

Go into Device Manager and see if the AGP port is there under system
motherboard driver disk
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Hmm.... Any idea where to find them? I googled around and got nothing but
bios updates.
 
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Dave Rudolf

Dave Rudolf said:
Yes, I realise that. I just wasn't sure if the fact that it was detecting a
"PCI" adapter was part of the problem.


Creative 3D Blaster TNT2


According to Creative's site, their auto-update does not support this card.
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Sorry, I meant to add: I have it set to AGP/PCI, but since you mentioned it,
I tried PCI/AGP just now. I assume that the card would need AGP/PCI, but how
would I know for sure?
 

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