p53g freezes when installing any pci card


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puddking

Using a p53g motherboard by PC Chips.: I've tried a sound card and
wireless network adapter pci card and when i get into windows xp sp
it will freeze w/in a couple minutes, when i disable the device usin
safe mode it works fine, but it won't allow me to use it. I've trie
a soundblaster card and a netgear pci wireless network card. I'
using a geforce pci express x16 and it works fine, won't allow me t
enable anything else. any ideas
 
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Paul

puddking said:
Using a p53g motherboard by PC Chips.: I've tried a sound card and a
wireless network adapter pci card and when i get into windows xp sp2
it will freeze w/in a couple minutes, when i disable the device using
safe mode it works fine, but it won't allow me to use it. I've tried
a soundblaster card and a netgear pci wireless network card. I'm
using a geforce pci express x16 and it works fine, won't allow me to
enable anything else. any ideas?

There is one Newegg review entry, where the reviewer claimed to be
using an "Audigy SE". So I guess that means the PCI slots can work.

I tried to look at a picture of the board, but I cannot make out
all the chip numbers. The LAN could be integrated into the VT8237S
Southbridge, and then there'd be a PHY connected via MII. So that
doesn't use PCI. There is an audio chip, but that would be
AC'97 or HDaudio high speed serial. So I don't know of any other PCI
chips on the board, whose operation you could use as proof that the
PCI bus works. On an average desktop motherboard, the PCI bus is
connected to the slot connectors, but also runs to the occasional
peripheral chip, and the source of the bus is on the side of the
Southbridge. But if there are no PCI chips used on a motherboard,
then it is pretty hard to prove the PCI bus works.

(8237S at the bottom, shows a Network Interface PHY, so network doesn't need PCI)
http://www.via.com.tw/en/images/products/chipsets/c-series/cn896_blkdiagram.jpg

You may just have a defective PCI bus, or two defective connectors.
How connectors can be defective, is if the motherboard is washed
in "dirty" wash water. Some of the solder paste formulations now,
are water soluble, so the motherboard is washed after the soldering
phase. Connectors should really be capped (rubber cover), to prevent
debris from entering them. For example, the RJ-45 LAN connector
on my motherboard, didn't work until the connector had been
inserted and removed five times. Then it tested good. So you
could try the same approach with your PCI card.

It that approach doesn't work, then it is RMA time.

Paul
 
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puddking

puddking wrote
Using a p53g motherboard by PC Chips.: I've tried a sound card an
a wireless network adapter pci card and when i get into windows x
sp2 it will freeze w/in a couple minutes, when i disable the devic
using safe mode it works fine, but it won't allow me to use it. I'v
tried a soundblaster card and a netgear pci wireless network card. I'
using a geforce pci express x16 and it works fine, won't allow me t
enable anything else. any ideas

funnily enough the card tha
brought this problem to light was a soundblaster audigy. But
corrected that problem by uninstalling/reinstalling the onboard soun
card drivers. I'm not sure that it would be a totally malfunctionin
card controller, because I have used the card, It has connected wit
my wireless network but within 1 minute or so of enabling it. Th
system just freezes... no error message or anything. I've contacte
the retailer now and am waiting on a response. As far as the diagra
you provided. Everything else going through that chip is full
functional... Hopefully I won't have to get to the level o
troubleshooting that would involve removing and reattaching th
controller
 
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Paul

puddking said:
a wireless network adapter pci card and when i get into windows xp
sp2 it will freeze w/in a couple minutes, when i disable the device
using safe mode it works fine, but it won't allow me to use it. I've
tried a soundblaster card and a netgear pci wireless network card. I'm
using a geforce pci express x16 and it works fine, won't allow me to
enable anything else. any ideas?

funnily enough the card that
brought this problem to light was a soundblaster audigy. But I
corrected that problem by uninstalling/reinstalling the onboard sound
card drivers. I'm not sure that it would be a totally malfunctioning
card controller, because I have used the card, It has connected with
my wireless network but within 1 minute or so of enabling it. The
system just freezes... no error message or anything. I've contacted
the retailer now and am waiting on a response. As far as the diagram
you provided. Everything else going through that chip is fully
functional... Hopefully I won't have to get to the level of
troubleshooting that would involve removing and reattaching the
controller.

If the Soundblaster is working, and you've thoroughly tested it,
then it could be a problem with the wireless card being bad.
Or even the driver for the wireless could be involved somehow.

If the PCI shows signs of working, then that probably means
nothing further to do, as far as the motherboard is concerned.
If no PCI cards worked, then it would be a different matter.

Paul
 

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