Will this hurt freeware??

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badgolferman

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philo

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Dick Kistler

Caesar Romano said:
Microsoft Makes Way to Pay for PC Hourly

By ALLISON LINN, AP Business Writer
Mon May 22, 12:50 AM ET

SEATTLE - Microsoft Corp. has developed technology for people to pay
by the hour to use a computer in their own homes, similar to the way
many people use pre-paid cards for cell phones.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060522...szsKISs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3cjE0b2MwBHNlYwM3Mzg-

Let me get this straight. Microsoft has suddenly discovered a way to charge
you by the minute, or by the byte, to use your own computer while you are
using Microsoft Windows or Microsoft Office(actually they have planned this
for a long time. This is the reason that .NET exists) and this is going to
somehow hurt freeware? Get real! This will put freeware operating
systems(Linux, BSD Unix, etc.) and freeware programs(OpenOffice.org, GIMP,
Firefox, Thunderbird, Opera, etc.) in an even better position to make the
name Microsoft irrelevant.

Dick Kistler
 
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jejoyce28

I really don't see this as affecting freeware either negatively or
positively.

After all, this isn't Microsoft's first experiment with "FlexGo", but
rather a second or third attempt at making it a viable business model
in "developing" countries. And really, it's not that bad an idea. Think
about it; a market where not many people can afford to have a PC,
standard financing like Dell/VISA/MC or debit cards aren't an option.
So that's where "FlexGo" comes in.

It really isn't much different than working out a financing program
with Dell or Alienware or any of the other boutiques. They agree to
finance part (or all) of the cost of a system, meaning we pay less
upfront to get one. And just like FlexGo, the finance charges mean you
wind up paying more than if you'd bought it outright, but....The only
difference I see between Dell/Alienware/Card Issuers setup and the
FlexGo program is that the FlexGo program has more of an immediate
penalty -- you don't make your payments, the PC quits working.

It's not a system where you have to continually keep buying "prepaid
cards" indefinitely. Once the balance of the system and finance charges
are paid off, the PC's yours outright, just as it would be if it'd been
bought traditionally.
 
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Dick Kistler

Caesar Romano said:
Microsoft Makes Way to Pay for PC Hourly

By ALLISON LINN, AP Business Writer
Mon May 22, 12:50 AM ET

SEATTLE - Microsoft Corp. has developed technology for people to pay
by the hour to use a computer in their own homes, similar to the way
many people use pre-paid cards for cell phones.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060522...szsKISs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3cjE0b2MwBHNlYwM3Mzg-

Or how about this: Microsoft employees have voted to GIVE(or sell at half or
lower price, if you have to be a capitalist) their unused and obsoleted
hardware to those in underdeveloped countries(or the poor in this country)
for people there to use with free operating systems and other free computer
software to enrich their lives. This, of course, avoids putting together a
ridiculous system to collect money from those who buy the computers
described in this article. And makes use of hardware that would otherwise
not be used, since it has been obsoleted by Microsoft(and other companies')
bloated software.

Dick Kistler
 
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Luis Cobian

Not at all, this is a business model like any oher out there and a viable
alternative for the countries in development where not everybody can have
access o a computer. Nobody force anybody to use this model like nobody
force you to use a prepaid telephone card. It's all about CHOISE.
 
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Martyn W

Luis said:
Not at all, this is a business model like any oher out there and a viable
alternative for the countries in development where not everybody can have
access o a computer. Nobody force anybody to use this model like nobody
force you to use a prepaid telephone card. It's all about CHOICE.

It's also part of trend, some would say conspiracy, by corporations to
fundamentally change the capitalist paradigm away from the ownership
model to a service model. The ideal is a consumer who owns nothing, but
pays an increasing proportion of their income to corporations for
services.

DRM is another part of this. Once upon a time there was a thriving
second hand market for video tapes, books, and records/CDs. Soon that
will no longer be possible, because you will not take ownership of the
item, merely have use of it in a limited structure decided by the
copyright owners. To aid this, the copyright laws have been distorted
to favour the rights owner over the consumer.

Of course, this has been going on a long time. Pension plans and
Assurance Savings plans were amongst the first to trade on the basis of
you paying money for something that you'll never own, and have no
guaranteed benefits as a consequence. Meanwhile the Pension and
Assurance companies use your money to buy shares and stock in other
companies, retaining the ownership of that stock for themselves.

How many of you will own a car, free and unencumbered from finance?
Balloon payments and Lease plans will put paid to that. Housing is
starting to move into the non-ownership model, as they move
increasingly out of the reach of a normal income.

Soon there will be a time when the ordinary person will own next to
nothing, but pay for everything. Whether that is a good or a bad thing
is a matter of perspective and I'm not condemning it, just observing
the fact of its existence.
 
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ellis_jay

Martyn said:
It's also part of trend, some would say conspiracy, by corporations to
fundamentally change the capitalist paradigm away from the ownership
model to a service model. The ideal is a consumer who owns nothing,
but pays an increasing proportion of their income to corporations for
services.

DRM is another part of this. Once upon a time there was a thriving
second hand market for video tapes, books, and records/CDs. Soon that
will no longer be possible, because you will not take ownership of the
item, merely have use of it in a limited structure decided by the
copyright owners. To aid this, the copyright laws have been distorted
to favour the rights owner over the consumer.

Of course, this has been going on a long time. Pension plans and
Assurance Savings plans were amongst the first to trade on the basis
of you paying money for something that you'll never own, and have no
guaranteed benefits as a consequence. Meanwhile the Pension and
Assurance companies use your money to buy shares and stock in other
companies, retaining the ownership of that stock for themselves.

How many of you will own a car, free and unencumbered from finance?
Balloon payments and Lease plans will put paid to that. Housing is
starting to move into the non-ownership model, as they move
increasingly out of the reach of a normal income.

Soon there will be a time when the ordinary person will own next to
nothing, but pay for everything. Whether that is a good or a bad thing
is a matter of perspective and I'm not condemning it, just observing
the fact of its existence.

http://news.com.com/Salesforce.coms+new+gamble/2100-1012_3-5804017.html

http://news.com.com/Will+computing+flow+like+electricity/2100-1011_3-5749968.html?tag=nl

http://salesforce.breezecentral.com/intelligentreaction/
http://www.salesforce.com/

http://www.salesforce.com/products/productdemos.jsp?d=70130000000C8WK
no need to look at the other demos----only Mr. Francis's.

http://www.emergic.org/archives/2005/07/29/index.html






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Tolkien, The Unfinished Tales

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