will readyboost/superfetch degrade performance on a pc w/o paging file?

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Norbert Aquende

I have a vista with 4gb ram and paging file disabled for performance
benefits. would using readyboost degrade my performance since it is using
flash media as cache or is it fast enough to even improve performance?
Is there a specific class of flash storage speed that i shoud use to realize
improved performance with the current configuration of my pc?
 
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Synapse Syndrome

Norbert Aquende said:
I have a vista with 4gb ram and paging file disabled for performance
benefits. would using readyboost degrade my performance since it is using
flash media as cache or is it fast enough to even improve performance?
Is there a specific class of flash storage speed that i shoud use to
realize improved performance with the current configuration of my pc?


Unless you are doing some serious multitasking with some heavyweight apps
and/or have a some virtual machines running, I reckon all it would do is
actually slow your computer down. That is what it seemed to do for me,
anyway.

I had the feeling it even slowed my computer down with only 2GB and lots of
large apps running (CAD, 3D and graphics apps open all at the same time,
with large files), but I do have WD Raptors, in RAID-0.

ReadyBoost is only worth thinking about with very small amounts of RAM (like
1GB). Proper RAM is much faster.

ss.
 
K

Kerry Brown

Disabling the page file can cause performance problems. The first thing I'd
do is create a page file and see if the performance is better.
 
M

Mike Hall - MVP

Norbert Aquende said:
I have a vista with 4gb ram and paging file disabled for performance
benefits. would using readyboost degrade my performance since it is using
flash media as cache or is it fast enough to even improve performance?
Is there a specific class of flash storage speed that i shoud use to
realize improved performance with the current configuration of my pc?


Unless your computer is set to do only one repetitive task, and space is at
a premium, there is no point in disabling the paging file.

For general use across multiple applications and functions, set the page
file to be system managed.

Turning off the paging file and then employing a flash drive in Readyboost
mode is not the way to go.


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gls858

Norbert said:
I have a vista with 4gb ram and paging file disabled for performance
benefits. would using readyboost degrade my performance since it is
using flash media as cache or is it fast enough to even improve
performance?
Is there a specific class of flash storage speed that i shoud use to
realize improved performance with the current configuration of my pc?

Most info indicates that readyboost only increases performance on PC
with less that 1 gig of RAM.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

I have a vista with 4gb ram and paging file disabled for performance
benefits.


Disabling the page file will *not* improve performance.

1. If you don't have a page file, you can't use all the RAM you have.
That's because Windows preallocates virtual memory in anticipation of
a possible need for it, even though that allocated virtual memory may
never be used. Without a page file, that allocation has to be made in
real memory, thus tying up that memory and preventing it from being
used for any purpose.

2. There is never a benefit in not having a page file. If it isn't
needed, it won't be used. Don't confuse allocated memory with used
memory.

would using readyboost degrade my performance

No.


since it is using
flash media as cache or is it fast enough to even improve performance?


With that much RAM, it's highly unlikely that Readyboost will ever
improve performance at all. In my view, it hardly ever does anything
for someone who has as much as 2GB of RAM. And if you have less than
2GB, almost anyone would do better by spending the money for
additional RAM rather than a Readyboost device. I think Readyboost is
almost always a poor choice of things to do.
 
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Bill ©¿©¬ Yanaire

Theory of Everything said:
small amounts of ram... 1gb???????

See what Vista has us thinking now????? lol

Your logic is skewed. Since you don't understand Vista you shouldn't be
anywhere near Vista. DOS 6.22 is your best bet.
Crap, that OS crawls with anything less than 2gb ram, and the 32bit
version can take up to 2.5 - 3.5 maximum depending on your hardware...

BOY VISTA SUCKS!

Vista sucks for you because you don't understand the technology or how to
use Vista. I suggest a class or go to a book store and get a basic guide to
help you out. Within time even you can make progress.
 
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Bill ©¿©¬ Yanaire

Theory of Everything said:
I am sorry to burst your bubble, but you see a pattern world wide here.

The more computer savvy a person is, the more he knows that vista is a bag
full of bugs.

And that would make you.. what? A computer ignorant illiterate moron!
And that would make you a douche bag who doesn't understand the basics of
Vista. You are the ignorant illiterate moron. You are having so much
trouble with Vista, all you do is complain because you can't get anything to
work. Get a book, something like "Vista for Retards" and study real hard.
Within 6 years you could have a basic understanding of your computer. Good
luck and let us know your progress.
 
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Frank

Theory said:
I can make vista work as designed and even a little bit better,...

hehehe...sure you can...I've seen a sampling of your
configuration...it's horrible!

but I
cannot alter the code and correct it of course.

You and your stupid "tweaking" is the real problem.
The limitation is built into its very fabric of design, the ideas that
went into it, and the hundreds of stupid meaningless horrible changes
they made to poor old XP.

So Vista has you confused, huh?
Figures.

Change for the sake of change without thought
and experimentation to back up the changes.

Vista is crap by design, ugly, slow and bloated and especially non user
friendly.

Show us your design credentials, or web sites that you've (supposedly)
designed ok, or else just STFU and slink away.
 
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Kerry Brown

How could you test performance with and without a pagefile?

Create a system managed page file. Use the computer for a while doing the
things you normally do. Disable the page file. Use the system for a while
doing the things you normally do. Every time I've tried it, it was very
obvious that a page file was needed. I've tried it on many systems, 32 bit
and 64 bit, clients and servers, many versions of Windows, with varying
amounts of RAM up to 16 GB. I've never found a situation where disabling the
page file didn't noticeably cause problems and eventually slow the system
down. With a lot of RAM on a server dedicated to one task it was not
noticeable until the server had been up for several days. With win2k, XP,
and Vista it's usually noticeable almost immediately.
 

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